State v Bradley Cooper 04-19-2011

[less0305]

CD?
Good for him.
If I was nearby when CPD charged him with murder, I would have applauded too.

And had I been Nancy's friend and knew what all she lived with, and then suddenly she's missing from her children for several hours (not to mention a prompt and conscientious person for keeping appointments) I would have called the police also. Her husband sure didn't. They all used their guts and instincts about Brad. Even the friend who didn't want to go searching in the woods alone with Brad - wow, that tells you something right there.

 

[otto]

But we don't know Brad's mind...what was going on in there...how long he had this planned...the preparations he made or did not make before the alleged event..

I think the 41 second zip code map search is supposed to suggest that this was premeditated hours before the murder. That suggests to me that Brad supposedly planned all of this well in advance.

 

[TXredhead178]

I was there, and I am telling you this verbatim. The defense pulled up the list of files, and went through line by line. They dismissed tons by automatic updates (which everyone agreed were not caused by CPD, or any method of tampering), but there were several the the FBI could not explain away.

Ok. What did the FBI say about those several files in question?

 

[WolfpackWoman]

Ok. What did the FBI say about those several files in question?

Exactly what I said on the last page. They didn't know why they were updated, and they could not remember how they were ruled out as signs of tampering.

 

[TXredhead178]

Yes 650+ files modified after CPD took possession, pros witness says they were all auto-updates, we ahve not heard from the defense about it yet.

I'm not sure how much more on that we will hear, given that their key witness is not allowed to testify re: computer forensics. I would like to know more about Spec Agent Johnson's being re-called to the stand by the defense today.

 

[Overly-Curious]

Ok I am coming out of the closet so to speak....I believe Brad had this planned well in advance...He may not have known the exact date his plan would be carried out..but he knew it would happen.....the 41 second trip down Fielding Dr was on a whim while he was deep in thought because Nancy kept calling wanting her $$$...He scouted out that site while she was on vacation...JMO...

 

[jrb0124]

So with that, do you think it is reasonable for the jury to consider her a suspect over BC?

:waitasec: Not everyone who lies is then considered a suspect, this is not how the courts/police conduct things. I think the point here is that a lying pros witness diminishes the credibility of the state's case against the defendent.

The jury will not be asked to identify another suspect, they will be asked only if the defendent is G or NG.

 

[Overly-Curious]

But...if the defense has something viable to change my mind...bring it on...I'll be happy to consider it....

 

[TXredhead178]

Exactly what I said on the last page. They didn't know why they were updated, and they could not remember how they were ruled out as signs of tampering.

Ok. Interesting. Did anything further come out of that on re-cross?

 

[gritguy]

He had a week to drive around and scope out a place while Nancy was gone. The search could have just been firming up in his mind the street names of the place he liked the best or just to sit and salivate for 41 seconds what he was going to do and it would all be over with soon.

Talked to the guy who was my riding partner back in 08. Told him the theory BC didn't know about fielding drive. We both had a good laugh at that one; nice stress relief from the storm recovery. Of course he saw it and the sign saying it was being developed. Like most riders I'm sure he knew it was not nearly as busy as lochmere gets. It makes sense he would check it out before using it, but he wouldn't need to study it.

Before I rode through the other day I took a quick look at it online to get the lay of the land and make sure I'd make the correct turns in the subdivision.

But brad who was training probably 100 miles a week on his bike didn't know about the new subdivision that was on the local riding route?? I don't buy that.

 

[less0305]

Quite true. So he first scouted the location by driving around, and then confirmed the route by checking the map on the 11th.

Like I said, maybe in the midst of Nancy calling him and blasting for no money he pulled up the site and salivated over what he was going to do the next day. Or checked street names, or wanted to be sure he could find it in the middle of the night versus his trip scouting in the daytime. But 41 seconds isn't that short of a time frame when you had a week alone prior to figure out just where you would likely put her body. I sat here and clocked 41 seconds. I could study a map pretty good in 41 seconds.

 

[Just the Fax]

Common sense. If I was going to hide something, and premeditated this, I would look at a number of possibilities before making a decision. Brad strikes me as the sort of person that thinks things through, so I'm guessing that Brad - during his premeditated murder - took more than 41 seconds to pick the spot.

As many have said, he very well could have driven over there in the days before the murder. CPD thinks so, as they presented different shoes with the white mica.

 

[WolfpackWoman]

Ok. Interesting. Did anything further come out of that on re-cross?

I think that was the extent of it? If someone else was there, please correct me if I'm wrong. I think on cross they isolated maybe a dozen or so files that couldn't be explained by the FBI agent. Then on re-direct the prosecution got the witness to say that even though he didn't know what they were, or why they were changed, it was his expert opinion that they weren't indicative of tampering. He just couldn't point to why.

I really hope the defense brings this out--but I'm afraid we won't hear as much from their expert, because of the court's ruling today.

 

[Cheyenne130]

It's not a big thing but I did feel that the witness this afternoon mischaracterized the ease of getting into a WEP encrypted wireless network. It is definitely more than akin to having a screen door to keep someone out of your house. It still requires a tool to get past the encryption. It would be more like using a credit card to open a door with a flimsy lock. MOO

 

[unc70]

41 seconds just doesn't seem long enough. He's thinking about murdering his wife and presumably he's carefully checking possible areas to put a body. This should not be a quick, random thought during a premeditated murder. All we have connecting Brad to the location where Nancy was found is a 41 sec zip code map search that FBI say zoomed directly to the correct location where she was found and then end of search. I don't find that realistic.

Would seem particularly quick if everyone is gathering around getting ready to leave for lunch at any second.

 

[otto]

As many have said, he very well could have driven over there in the days before the murder. CPD thinks so, as they presented different shoes with the white mica.

I suppose I have to throw out my theory that there should have been additional computer searches of the area. If he had already selected the area, 41 seconds was long enough to confirm the area and surrounding route.

 

[jrb0124]

But brad who was training probably 100 miles a week on his bike

not since June 2007, and as far as I know no one has disputed that.

 

[less0305]

It's not a big thing but I did feel that the witness this afternoon mischaracterized the ease of getting into a WEP encrypted wireless network. It is definitely more than akin to having a screen door to keep someone out of your house. It still requires a tool to get past the encryption. It would be more like using a credit card to open a door with a flimsy lock. MOO

Of course he did. He's being paid to.

 

[Just the Fax]

:waitasec: Not everyone who lies is then considered a suspect, this is not how the courts/police conduct things. I think the point here is that a lying pros witness diminishes the credibility of the state's case against the defendent.

The jury will not be asked to identify another suspect, they will be asked only if the defendent is G or NG.

Again jrb0124, please lay off your preaching of the obvious.
I have not heard any Pros witness being caught in an intentional lie...have you?

 

[gritguy]

As many have said, he very well could have driven over there in the days before the murder. CPD thinks so, as they presented different shoes with the white mica.

And he picked a great place. Took only moments to get to yet provided a reasonable amount of time for discovery which certainly diminished the evidence.

Not surprising, he had been riding the local roads for years by foot, certainly planning routes for that etc. He picked the nearest best place. Perhaps only a bit of nervousness caused him to have a last look that day. Lilly atkins though somewhat secluded is a cut through so is subject to traffic at any time and people do live on it. Holly springs a no go too much chance of being spotted while your car is stopped. Regency park back behind the pond had potential but it would have extended the trip.

If BC went Cary parkway to holly springs, he could cut right to fielding if the cost was clear or turn left to tryon if the situation seemed sketchy (car coming or whatever).