State v Bradley Cooper - 3/25/11

[sunshine05]

I don't know where to post this to talk to someone else about it, because the old threat from the depositions from child custody discussion are so old. I am just now listening to them. He seems so calm and collected during this so far, it almost leads me to believe he is a great liar or really is innocent of doing anything to her... on another note, it seems like he could be on xanax because he is so calm and not nervous. I would be nervous whether I was guilty or not of murder, especially in front of the camera and all these lawyers.. just very strange how he is so "chill"

I thought he seemed noticeably uncomfortable, not necessarily nervous during some of the questioning. Honestly, it was so invasive and personal that I would have felt that way too, guilty or not.

He also seemed calm during the HT trips.

 

[gracielee]

So in his deposition, he just stated he installed VOIP in his home around January of 2008. And he just testfied he 'could' initiatate a call from a remote location. 'Some of our software can inititate a call from a hard location', & 'yes, he's done it.'

 

[LyndyLoo]

Edited his files? That's problematic.

I assume that any defense team would challenge and yes, even suggest evidence tampering...but what or why the heck would they (State IT Forensics) manipulate the files to show something inculpatory of an innocent man?..I do have to remind everyone..whatever attourney's say in court is NOT evidence nor FACT..It is what is testified to and It is the jurors who decide who speaks to truthes....
I have to believe that 12 minds of common sensical people can figure it out.

Defense can allege, suggest, speculate, or even accuse all they want..as it is their job to project innocense of the client to the jury...however it is againt the law for any lawyer to subborn purjury..So we will see if there is Proof in their pudding so to speak..

 

[gracielee]

I thought he seemed noticeably uncomfortable, not necessarily nervous during some of the questioning. Honestly, it was so invasive and personal that I would have felt that way too, guilty or not.

He also seemed calm during the HT trips.

That's the way depositions are though. I had to give one once for an automobile accident. The opposing attorney can and does ask just about anything. Even if your attorney 'objects', you are still required to give an answer, with the objection noted.

 

[CrimeAddict]

IIRC, wasn't he asked that question, 'are you on any meds' in the beginning of the deposition process?

I know, I should have said that in my post, I heard her ask him, but is just seems like he is still calm (on the 2nd part now)

Some of these questions would make me get pissed, so she is basically testing him to get him to get angry? Is that what you think?

 

[jmflu]

So in his deposition, he just stated he installed VOIP in his home around January of 2008. And he just testfied he 'could' initiatate a call from a remote location. 'Some of our software can inititate a call from a hard location', & 'yes, he's done it.'

So, not only does he know how...he's done it!

 

[borndem]

Regarding the defense claim that someone must have hacked into BC's home network and left incriminating evidence on his (work?) computer here's why that is simply not possible:

1. As a Cisco employee who works from home, Brad would be required to use proper security protocols, which includes using a protected network.

2. To access anything within the Cisco network from home, Brad would be going through yet another secure layer (called 'VPN'). This stands for 'virtual private network.' It's the standard used by companies to make sure everyone accessing the company network from outside the company is authorized and the connection is secure and protected.

3. Even if Brad did not get onto the Cisco servers at work early on 7/12 and only used his regular Internet connection at home, his Cisco laptop would have all kinds of special security software on it to make sure only an authorized user could get to it. It would require knowing a password to log on. My company uses a similar approach.

Therefore, if the prosecution can put someone on the stand to verify that Cisco employees are required to use secure wireless networks and confirm that there is special security software on all Cisco laptops, the defense will not be able to reasonably claim that someone hacked into Brad's computer. It simply did NOT happen.

Note: Brad said he was working in his office...this is the location he puts himself as he's 'bouncing around on the Internet, searching Google.' That means he was not using the Apple laptop downstairs.

That's a Bingo, SG --

As I have said before, all of us who worked from home occasionally (including those of us who had to support and fix system problems in the middle of the night, like myself :juggle: ) had to go thru VPN to even get sgined-on and then to our own PC's at work -- like everyone else, we could access the same systems from home as we could at work including our PC files for e-mails or anything else on our PC drives -- but the only way we could do it was through VPN. (A bank is one of the most paranoid institutions around.) Sometimes we had to access a customer record when a program canceled to look at the txn that caused it, etc., etc., so you better believe we had sunk a lot of $$ into that, and as far as we could tell, the system was essentially inviolable.

Good point - thanks.

 

[gracielee]

I know, I should have said that in my post, I heard her ask him, but is just seems like he is still calm (on the 2nd part now)

Some of these questions would make me get pissed, so she is basically testing him to get him to get angry? Is that what you think?

When I gave a deposition, IIRC my attorney told me they would try to get me upset, rattle me, etc., but to stay calm, answer all questions as succintly (sp?) as possible, tell the truth, etc. Don't add anything, answer in as few words as necessary. At first it rattled me when my attorney would 'object' but then I had to answer anyway. Once I got the hang of that, it didn't bother me anymore. I picked up on the routine.

 

[CrimeAddict]

When I gave a deposition, IIRC my attorney told me they would try to get me upset, rattle me, etc., but to stay calm, answer all questions as succintly (sp?) as possible, tell the truth, etc. Don't add anything, answer in as few words as necessary. At first it rattled me when my attorney would 'object' but then I had to answer anyway. Once I got the hang of that, it didn't bother me anymore. I picked up on the routine.

After watching so much of the trial, I have to admit its really nice to hear him speak and see what he is kind of like. I think he is a smart dude and has an idea of what not to say. It is very interesting that his memory is so foggy about a lot, especially not knowing his only nephews name, that is nuts. I have 4 nieces and I know all their names, middle names and birth dates and only see them 1 or 2 times a year.

 

[borndem]

I'm intrigued about the trunk of the car. BC says he spilt gasoline there and cleaned it up. Did he say when this happened? Why did he have gasoline there? Weren't there photos of their yard showing high grass, suggesting no recent yard work? If he recently went to a gas station to buy gas in a portable container (usually <2gal), this might be traceable via credit card records.

You make a good point -- of course, I think the gas spill/clean-up story was untrue, but giving him the doubt benefit ... from what I have heard/seen so far, it looks like BC used cards, not cash, for a lot of things.

Did they ever mention a gas can in the garage or anywhere else?

 

[SleuthinNC]

That's a Bingo, SG --

As I have said before, all of us who worked from home occasionally (including those of us who had to support and fix system problems in the middle of the night, like myself :juggle: ) had to go thru VPN to even get sgined-on and then to our own PC's at work -- like everyone else, we could access the same systems from home as we could at work including our PC files for e-mails or anything else on our PC drives -- but the only way we could do it was through VPN. (A bank is one of the most paranoid institutions around.) Sometimes we had to access a customer record when a program canceled to look at the txn that caused it, etc., etc., so you better believe we had sunk a lot of $$ into that, and as far as we could tell, the system was essentially inviolable.

Good point - thanks.

A VPN is used to ensure a secure connection on a network that may or may not be secure. You can use a VPN to connect securely from public networks too. It doesn't mean all networks in the home had to be secure.

We often set up a guest network in our home for people to use to access the internet through our connection. It has no bearing on being able to access our work network securely.

 

[Albert]

So, not only does he know how...he's done it!

Doing it on a VoIP system in which you have access to the PBX is not the same as doing it on a TWC phone where you don't have the same type of access.

I watched the depo relating to remote control of phone and I think both the question and answer was vague. Both were as vague as it seems most understanding of VoIP is vague.

One way to remote control an ip phone: http://www.clarussystems.com/products/remote_hands.php

 

[borndem]

Maybe the shop-vac is still sitting in the garage, and they can go check it now. Is the house still considered a 'crime-scene'?

No -- it was vacated and later sold at a loss for $305K on 5/18/09. I have thought about the same thing you just said, though -- it is a puzzler to me, too. Pity, that.

 

[borndem]

Maybe the shop-vac is still sitting in the garage, and they can go check it now. Is the house still considered a 'crime-scene'?

No -- it was vacated and later sold at a loss for $305K. It still bothers me, too! A pity.

 

[SleuthyGal]

I know people are gullible, and I know some people are inclined to believe anyone, absolutely anyone, must have committed this murder rather than the person who happens to be on trial. It's the 'ABB' mindset (Anyone But Brad).

But, that said, I hope no one is so gullible that they would actually believe that someone hacked into the Cooper wireless network, somehow took 'control' of Brad's password-protected laptop, and did Google searches on where Nancy's body was dumped either right before or right after Nancy was murdered (sometime in the middle of the night/early morning of 7/11-7/12).

If someone can actually believe that scenario, then I submit they are a con artist's wet dream and it's only a matter of time until they fork over all their money to some prince in Nigeria who promises to pay it all back, with interest.

 

[ncsu95]

I know people are gullible, and I know some people are inclined to believe anyone, absolutely anyone, must have committed this murder rather than the person who happens to be on trial. It's the 'ABB' mindset (Anyone But Brad).

But, that said, I hope no one is so gullible that they would actually believe that someone hacked into the Cooper wireless network, somehow took 'control' of Brad's password-protected laptop, and did Google searches on where Nancy's body was dumped either right before or right after Nancy was murdered (sometime in the middle of the night/early morning of 7/11-7/12).

If someone can actually believe that scenario, then I submit they are a con artist's wet dream and it's only a matter of time until they fork over all their money to some prince in Nigeria who promises to pay it all back, with interest.

Maybe we should wait to see what evidence of this is presented from both sides before determining someones gullibility.

 

[SleuthyGal]

I am, of course, predicting we will see evidence of such a search on Brad's computer, in which he searched for a place to dump his wife's body...a search he conducted within a short time (mere hrs) of her death. I base my comments on that prediction.

 

[ncsu95]

So, not only does he know how...he's done it!

There is a difference in generating a remote call using voip, and generating a remote call using his home landline.

Now saying that, I just got a new work PC with windows 7. I was just looking through some of the applications on it and one of them was a fax application. It said to connect the PC to a phone jack and you could use the PC to send a fax. So it would be easy to remote desktop to this PC and send a fax call to my cell phone. That would accomplish the same thing, and since it is coming from my home line, I believe it would show with my home phones caller ID and would show on my home phones billing records.

 

[Albert]

There is a difference in generating a remote call using voip, and generating a remote call using his home landline.

Now saying that, I just got a new work PC with windows 7. I was just looking through some of the applications on it and one of them was a fax application. It said to connect the PC to a phone jack and you could use the PC to send a fax. So it would be easy to remote desktop to this PC and send a fax call to my cell phone. That would accomplish the same thing, and since it is coming from my home line, I believe it would show with my home phones caller ID and would show on my home phones billing records.

However most call detail records are able to distinguish a voice call from a fax call.

 

[SleuthinNC]

There is a difference in generating a remote call using voip, and generating a remote call using his home landline.

Now saying that, I just got a new work PC with windows 7. I was just looking through some of the applications on it and one of them was a fax application. It said to connect the PC to a phone jack and you could use the PC to send a fax. So it would be easy to remote desktop to this PC and send a fax call to my cell phone. That would accomplish the same thing, and since it is coming from my home line, I believe it would show with my home phones caller ID and would show on my home phones billing records.

I think (pretty sure) the detailed call records could be pulled from TWC to show that it was a fax or modem call vs a voice call. I know the capability exists to see that detail I don't know if TWC is able to pull that specific of details given the volume of calls being processed at any given time but maybe.