State v. Bradley Cooper 4-12-2011

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  • #221
I was thinking faint lines might indicate even moreso that something was tied around her neck. I know there is not any evidence that a bag was ever put over her head. I think this is very likely why the judge did not allow this evidence to be entered. The inference that I take from knowing that he not only looked at put printed off this information is that he was planning a murder to look like a suicide. That's not evidence. That's completely my speculation and you can't have jurors doing that. IMO (although I know that juror speculation occurs all the time and is sometimes used to convict.)

IMO, if Nancy had been attacked while out jogging, there would have been far more damage to her. She would have been fighting to the death for her life had this been some random act of violence. This caught her off guard, and was done by someone much MUCH stronger than herself, an ironman, perhaps. :maddening:
 
  • #222
wral WRAL NEWS in NC
Judge Gessner rules that the defense's cross-examination of FBI agent Gregory Johnson will go forward. Jury brought back in.
 
  • #223
I think the broken bone makes the 'bag over the head' theory unlikely. Plus didn't she have some faint lines on her throat?

from the necklace
 
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I'm pretty sure I remember reading that the defense requested the 'FBI methods' months ago and their request was denied.

It seems to me it would be easier to cross examine an expert witness if I knew how he obtained his information.

For example -- if I knew how he determined that BC accessed the computer I might be able to show that certain automated processes might have caused the appearance of access rather than BC actually using the computer.

Please don't shoot me... I'm new to this board and like RobT, my gut tells me he's guilty but thus far I don't think the evidence has resolved reasonable doubt.

One more thing, even tho the judge in the custody hearing found RZ unbelieveable I'd have to hear her testimony before I agree. Defense would be foolish not to get her testimony in front of the jury.
But, wouldn't they have had their own computer experts analyze the computer data?
 
  • #226
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_Bishop


I see Brad more like this one. Bradford Bishop. He's the one I was trying to remember. AMW has done this case numerous times over the years, never have caught him. Although, someone who looks like a neandrothal might be harder to hide.
 
  • #227
You know, I do not see him that way. I see him as loving himself too much. So he decided to kill Nancy instead.

Well said, NCE! INDEED .... :clap:
 
  • #228
I think that defense is just trying to set up an appeal issue by complaing they can't have the FBI methods. I am not of the mind that they really are questioning the info found.
 
  • #229
defense using the Police did a bad investigation (defense) is kind of lazy in my opinion considering how many lawyers Brad has on his team
 
  • #230
wral WRAL NEWS in NC
Jury out. Defense says he isn't prepared to cross-examine FBI agent. He hasn't been given adequate info about FBI methods.

Gzheeeszh. WTH? So what did Kurtz do for 2.6 years? Comb Brad's hair and send him "things-to-do-in-prison-today lists"?
 
  • #231
Mindboggling that if Brad DID attempt suicide in younger days, his family also lied about it in their SWORN affidavits.

I am not convinced they would have known anything about it anyway. It sounds like they had a distant relationship...
 
  • #232
Been following this trial daily like most of you, as well as reading the very interesting and insightful thoughts posted on this forum (which I honestly didn't know existed until this trial started).

One thought that I keep coming back to, and has been stated I'm sure before is two-fold. 1) That though taken in individual context, all the little things that make BC look suspicious are explainable but, at least so far, taken together they represent an increasingly unlikely scenario. And 2) I'm having a very difficult time constituting whether or not that unlikely scenario constitutes reasonable doubt.

As to "the smoking gun" ... I highly doubt there is one in all honesty. I don't believe this case would have made it to trial if there was a single piece of evidence that was altogether damning for BC. It would have been plead out.

I think there are two very large looming questions remaining as well. 1) The testimony of RZ and how that is going to be addressed by the prosectution, and 2) if BC will testify in his own defence which admittedly is unlikely but could prove to be a bit of a nail in the coffin to the prosecution if he gets up there and recites the same story that the defense has put forth as a timeline at the same time as seeming credible.


:welcome4: Glad to have you with us!!

One dumb question, from one whose brain is full, full, full of BC, NC DD, CD, CC, JA, et al.

Who is RZ? (Bold By Me, above) If you can't say the name due to the rules, just kind of give me a hint. Thanks, and again, welcome, RobT!! :seeya:
 
  • #233
Oh, he did admit to considering suicide? Did not know that.

I thought he did, and her family said that he was suicidal. Wasn't that one of the reasons for taking the kids from him?
 
  • #234
But, wouldn't they have had their own computer experts analyze the computer data?

True and I think that's pretty much the basis on which the request was denied. However, if the defense expert isn't able to support/prove Brad's testimony (that he didn't access the computer) it might help prove their case if they knew exactly how the FTE determined the computer was accessed.

Also, BC isn't stupid, he would know that computer experts could detect access -- wouldn't he have dumped or cleansed the computer if it didn't support his alibi?
 
  • #235
I am not convinced they would have known anything about it anyway. It sounds like they had a distant relationship...

this is probably the most Brad's parents have ever supported him in his lifetime...and even then they don't look like they want to be there
 
  • #236
defense using the Police did a bad investigation (defense) is kind of lazy in my opinion considering how many lawyers Brad has on his team

And the police did a bad investigation won't hold water in an appeal, IMO.
 
  • #237
I thought he did, and her family said that he was suicidal. Wasn't that one of the reasons for taking the kids from him?

didn't Nancy's dad say something like... he had dreams of three bodies...just before there was an objection
 
  • #238
I really doubt this. We grew up in a SMALL town (less than 60,000 at that time) with 3 high schools. A suicide attempt would have be known by many.

:twocents:

I grew up in a truly small town (less than 1000) and I know of someone in particular who had played around with suicide several times and no one knew (not even the parents). So basically I don't think that this is a good argument. MOO
 
  • #239
wral WRAL NEWS in NC
FBI agent: Brad was online more than half a dozen times morning of July 12 beginning at 6:52am, the morning Nancy went missing.

Google searches
 
  • #240
True and I think that's pretty much the basis on which the request was denied. However, if the defense expert isn't able to support/prove Brad's testimony (that he didn't access the computer) it might help prove their case if they knew exactly how the FTE determined the computer was accessed.

Also, BC isn't stupid, he would know that computer experts could detect access -- wouldn't he have dumped or cleansed the computer if it didn't support his alibi?
You would think,
But, if it was not planned ahead of time, he could have been in a panic mode and spoke many lies trying to cover for himself. I can certainly see someone who didn't think it all out ahead of time, saying pretty much anything to show their innocence. jmo
 
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