State vs Bradley Cooper 4-21-11

[Cheyenne130]

No, but the part about her using her friend as an alibi was new!

Do you recall what the defense asked for the truth of the matter in terms of exactly what she did to provide these "alibis"?

 

[gracielee]

Right, but the psychic said it was within sight of a green flag too.

Could have been a surveyor's flag.

 

[dramamama]

Could have been a surveyor's flag.

Are those green? I guess they probably are if you are mentioning it...

 

[ncsu95]

Judge yesterday had asked pros and defense to come to an agreement re: his testimony so he wouldn't have to sort through it himself.

This morning the sides announced they had not reached an agreement, and Kurtz indicated that while the pros was willing to allow certain testimony from Levitan, they were adamant about keeping his conclusions out.

Kurtz protested that the whole purpose of the testimony was to get to the conclusions...and in fact stated to the judge that Levitan would (among other things) show premeditation required to erase. Judge will now have to take it up and decide.

It matches what Kurtz said in opening statements (had to enter 10 wrong passwords 2 different times with warnings about data being wiped both times).

 

[gracielee]

hey I have an honest question. is it well known and sure that brad or someone didn't wipe the phone before the police got it? or is there some reason why everyone says the CPD did it? honest question, just wondering. thanks

My own personal belief is that Brad rigged it. Why else was that the one thing he had his attorney write to the prosecution about? Reminds me a bit of the 'red & black jogging bra'. MOO

 

[less0305]

Are those green? I guess they probably are if you are mentioning it...

Or utility line locate flags.

 

[SleuthSayer]

The subpoena to google is one of the biggies in following this case. It was when it was revealed that her mail was being forwarded to BC. After JW yesterday, I kept thinking, it doesn't make sense. Why didn't they call google? Don't you need a google account for Google Earth?

No. I have Google Earth up in Chrome on the laptop that I am on now and no one has ever logged in to a Google account on here.

 

[gracielee]

Really though - how many people thought Mrs. Z might actually point at KL and say, "Oh, she looked like her"?

LOL, not me. :waitasec:

 

[ncsu95]

I too will look forward to that testimony..however Det MDreamy has already testified about deleting phone data....and so has many other witnesses..not to mention the lengthy cross on Brad's need to warn (letter) BE VERY CAREFUL with that phone??

With that said..Do you or anyone else think that there is evidence to indicate who would strangle her, and dump her half naked body ?? Does anyone really think she left to have a affair?? or a quiky ..then leave her car keys, phone and computer behind to her ( Nancy's )untruthworthy husband..whom she didnt trust with her private things..and felt compelled to sleep with her girls and keys and lock her bedroom door??..

Key witness to Det. Young screwing up..yepper however, I think Brad truly set that up course wouldnt be able to prove that..he really was a techy person who could do alot of things with computers, cell phones, and Voip callings....I doubt there was anything that would have helped LE in investigating nancy's murder except maybe proving she stopped useage after midnight July12th,2008..Wonder why Brad didnt inform them that it was password protected??..As onscreen it indicated locked..Just wonderin???

I don't think it had anything of value on it. But there is always the possibility that there were text messages on it or call logs that could implicate someone else. Maybe a text message about meeting up Saturday morning where she would pretend to go running. Unlikely? Sure. But it's not that farfetched an idea. And unfortunately, the data from the phone is gone despite the pleading from the defense to preserve it.

 

[sunshine05]

Do you recall what the defense asked for the truth of the matter in terms of exactly what she did to provide these "alibis"?

I don't think they did ask. It seemed related to her boyfriend/affair though.

 

[jrb0124]

My own personal belief is that Brad rigged it. Why else was that the one thing he had his attorney write to the prosecution about? Reminds me a bit of the 'red & black jogging bra'. MOO

I think the odds of BC rigging it are about the same as DY wiping the whole phone because he couldn't get in to delete info and didn't want to pass the task to someone else (perhaps even another detective) who would unlock it and see the info. I give those two scenarios about the same odds.

 

[ncsu95]

What we know was that the phone was wiped while Young was trying to get into per cell carrier's instructions. I still wonder if there was a remote wipe utility on the phone...software you can put on that protects data if lost or stolen. (We do know that BC confiscated her cell late that spring)

By instructions from someone whose name he didn't write down and doesn't remember. Using instructions he didn't write down and didn't use for 1 week. And ignoring the warnings given by the phone itself.

I fully believe it was not intentional on the part of Det. Young to wipe the phone. But it was incredibly inept to do so...and to do it twice (alleged by the defense).

 

[CrimeAddict]

Ok I'm watching today's testimony & something is wrong with this Christina Wells. Don't know what it is, but she's weird.

I think she seems nervous, she is smiling like she knows she is on camera.
I was about to fall asleep during RZ testimony so now I am istening to hers

 

[less0305]

No. I have Google Earth up in Chrome on the laptop that I am on now and no one has ever logged in to a Google account on here.

I don't have a google account either.

 

[ncsu95]

It would have been if she hadn't said TWICE that after she saw the flyer she stated, "I just saw her this morning!".

Maybe nerves on the stand? We have an affidavit from her, so we know what she believes she saw and when she saw it.

 

[SleuthSayer]

My own personal belief is that Brad rigged it. Why else was that the one thing he had his attorney write to the prosecution about? Reminds me a bit of the 'red & black jogging bra'. MOO

I thought that yesterday was Conspiracy Theory Day. :waitasec:

I honestly don't follow the thinking here. The detective described what he did to the phone and what he did definitely results in the phone being erased. And the detective testified to the fact that he got a warning that he was about to erase everything on the phone and he said "ok". Brad didn't make him click "ok" rather than "cancel" when he was prompted.

I could understand thinking that Brad did something devious if the detective testified that he just turned the phone on and it wiped itself or he just touched one key and it wiped itself. Instead, he described doing something that is supposed to wipe the phone.

 

[Cheyenne130]

I don't think it had anything of value on it. But there is always the possibility that there were text messages on it or call logs that could implicate someone else. Maybe a text message about meeting up Saturday morning where she would pretend to go running. Unlikely? Sure. But it's not that farfetched an idea. And unfortunately, the data from the phone is gone despite the pleading from the defense to preserve it.

They would still have the record of calls and texts from the phone company. It wouldn't give details of what was discussed any more than a voice call would but there would be a record of communication to and from. I agree with the mini conspiracy theory to a degreee. I'm suspect of WHY the defense by way of their client focused on that cell phone and made it SO important. I find it very hard to believe that Brad didn't already know what was on that phone. MOO

 

[gracielee]

Are those green? I guess they probably are if you are mentioning it...

I don't know for sure. I've seen different various little flags. Don't know if some are for lot lines, some for underground pipe placement, underground high voltage wires, gas lines, etc.

 

[Cheyenne130]

Maybe nerves on the stand? We have an affidavit from her, so we know what she believes she saw and when she saw it.

I've read her affidavit several times and even that is questionable. She indicates several weekends that roadblocks were set up passing out flyers looking for the missing jogger. She indicates in the affidavit that she did speak with the police once they were able to make a connection after playing "phone tag" and she gave them all of the information. That's not what she said on the stand today. And yes. I do believe that she believes she saw what she saw. I don't consider it reliable. MOO

 

[ncsu95]

My own personal belief is that Brad rigged it. Why else was that the one thing he had his attorney write to the prosecution about? Reminds me a bit of the 'red & black jogging bra'. MOO

Det. Young admitted during testimony that he entered the wrong password multiple times. He also admitted it warned him before erasing and he did it anyways because he was following instructions. What exactly do you believe Brad rigged? That is the testimony of how the phone is reset, and that is what Det. Young did. It wasn't the first time he entered the pw it erased everything. It was the one thing his attorney wrote about because it was her lifeline to everyone else, it was always locked, and it would have been how she communicated with people Brad was unaware about (and people he was). Of course they wanted to see what was on that phone.