State vs Bradley Cooper 4-21-11

[SleuthSayer]

Det. Young admitted during testimony that he entered the wrong password multiple times. He also admitted it warned him before erasing and he did it anyways because he was following instructions. What exactly do you believe Brad rigged? That is the testimony of how the phone is reset, and that is what Det. Young did. It wasn't the first time he entered the pw it erased everything. It was the one thing his attorney wrote about because it was her lifeline to everyone else, it was always locked, and it would have been how she communicated with people Brad was unaware about (and people he was). Of course they wanted to see what was on that phone.

Yeah, so not only would Brad have had to rig the phone to do what it is supposed to do already, he would have had to somehow know that the person to analyze it was going to be someone who would inexplicably say "yeah, go ahead" when he/she was asked if it was ok to erase everything on the device.

 

[yeknomaras]

CPD wiped NC phone. They admitted it, said it was "a mistake".

thanks for the info

that was something in the Defense's opening statement that really bothered me, because wiping out a phone really is not a simple task.

 

[Cheyenne130]

Det. Young admitted during testimony that he entered the wrong password multiple times. He also admitted it warned him before erasing and he did it anyways because he was following instructions. What exactly do you believe Brad rigged? That is the testimony of how the phone is reset, and that is what Det. Young did. It wasn't the first time he entered the pw it erased everything. It was the one thing his attorney wrote about because it was her lifeline to everyone else, it was always locked, and it would have been how she communicated with people Brad was unaware about (and people he was). Of course they wanted to see what was on that phone.

Not delving into any conspiracy theories but can you think of a reason why Brad through his attorneys would be so adamant about the necessity to protect that phone? My simple thought is that he pulled a "Scott Peterson" and left some voicemail or text message that would portray him as a loving husband. What would be on that phone and not in phone records that Brad would KNOW about that would be exculpatory?

 

[Danielle59]

Cummings was trying to trip up RZ, and he didn't suceed. She may be older but that does not mean she is dumb or ignorant. When he was going after her about saying "I think it was her," unfortunately, the written word does not show inflection in our speech. I have a feeling she said that with confidence, not with unsurety.

 

[Cheyenne130]

thanks for the info

that was something in the Defense's opening statement that really bothered me, because wiping out a phone really is not a simple task.

It depends on the phone. It wouldn't be easy for my phone in 2011. Apparently it was easy to do with a blackberry in 2008, and maybe even still today.

 

[Madeleine74]

Nancy's email account was on Roadrunner by Time Warner. They didn't need anything from Google to determine the settings in RR that allowed Brad to secretly send a copy of each email to his account. To look at Cooper's gmail account, then they would need a subpoena sent to Google.

 

[gracielee]

Det. Young admitted during testimony that he entered the wrong password multiple times. He also admitted it warned him before erasing and he did it anyways because he was following instructions. What exactly do you believe Brad rigged? That is the testimony of how the phone is reset, and that is what Det. Young did. It wasn't the first time he entered the pw it erased everything. It was the one thing his attorney wrote about because it was her lifeline to everyone else, it was always locked, and it would have been how she communicated with people Brad was unaware about (and people he was). Of course they wanted to see what was on that phone.

I'm not saying young didn't do all those things. What I am saying is I think the phone had already been erased prior to the cops receiving it. I don't think the phone had anything on it of any value. Brad had access to that phone for at least 2 days before any kind of search warrants were served. If the phone had anything of value on it, Brad would have already known. I have no doubt he would have broken into that phone the moment Nancy was gone. Well, not the *moment*, but you know what I mean. All the *stuff* nancy kept in her car, her private things, brad would have checked those out lickety split IMO. He was all about control. Once he knew she wasn't coming back, he would have checked out everything belonging to nancy IMO. He would have checked out what was on that phone, and IMO, nothing of value was there. He wiped it clean just like he dumped the stuff to make the rigged phone call. Just in case, he could use that down the road. He thought he was smarter than the cary cops. I don't for a minute think brad didn't check out her phone the same way he had copies of her emails made. MOO

 

[Cheyenne130]

Cummings was trying to trip up RZ, and he didn't suceed. She may be older but that does not mean she is dumb or ignorant. When he was going after her about saying "I think it was her," unfortunately, the written word does not show inflection in our speech. I have a feeling she said that with confidence, not with unsurety.

You are right about that. All of the tripping up was done by the defense attorney. IMO

 

[Amster]

Another Easter for 2 little girls without their mommy. A mommy that was killed and dumped like garbage. Nancy was a daughter, mom, sister, aunt, friend.....and wife to a monster that, I believe, killed her.

Hopefully, when Easter is celebrated next year, Brad will be nearing his 1st year behind prison walls.

RIP, Nancy.

 

[SleuthSayer]

thanks for the info

that was something in the Defense's opening statement that really bothered me, because wiping out a phone really is not a simple task.

It's a fairly baffling Blackberry behavior, but it's the behavior nonetheless. If it is password locked and you enter in the wrong password 10 times, it erases everything on the device (after giving you a warning that it is about to do so and giving you a chance to abort).

I've never tried it with my BB, but my understanding is that one or more times along the way during the 10 failed password attempts, it prompts you to type in a specific word. It only continues this process if you get the word right. This is to avoid the possibility of you "pocket dialing" the wrong password 10 times and erasing everything on the device.

 

[Danielle59]

You are right about that. All of the tripping up was done by the defense attorney. IMO

I don't think either one tripped her up. It was 2.5 years later, I think we all may stumble on our words a bit.

 

[jmflu]

Those of you who believe KZ saw Nancy running, how is it that Nancy had no earrings on when she saw her, yet she was wearing earrings when she was found?

Is it possible she was... mistaken?

 

[WolfpackWoman]

Those of you who believe KZ saw Nancy running, how is it that Nancy had no earrings on when she saw her, yet she was wearing earrings when she was found?

Is it possible she was... mistaken?

Or it's as simple as she didn't see them from 10 feet away? Or she forgot after 2 years? Or she didn't see Nancy, but she saw someone that looked like Nancy? I think the point of today's testimony is that we'll never know. The only people who showed RZ a lineup of potential joggers was the defense, and RZ picked out NC from the group. No other woman came forward and said, "hey, I spoke with a woman with a big lab on Lochmere that morning."

I don't discount RZ testimony based on the fact that she didn't recognize/remember earrings.

 

[jmflu]

Why did Brad lie about so many things?

 

[SleuthSayer]

I'm not saying young didn't do all those things. What I am saying is I think the phone had already been erased prior to the cops receiving it.

So you are suggesting that Brad erased it and then somehow knew that the detective would go through the arduous process of 10 failed passwords and then ok'ing the phone erase, thereby covering Brad's having already erased it?

 

[Cheyenne130]

I don't think either one tripped her up. It was 2.5 years later, I think we all may stumble on our words a bit.

This is testimony in a court of law. If you are going to apply this to one witness you have to apply it to all. You are pretty much saying that nothing they say is important. It's only what they really meant to say which fits with the side eliciting the testimony. Apply that to both sides of the aisle and see how that plays.

 

[jmflu]

How did Nancy's bra end up rolled under if someone were trying to take it off of her?

 

[yeknomaras]

It's a fairly baffling Blackberry behavior, but it's the behavior nonetheless. If it is password locked and you enter in the wrong password 10 times, it erases everything on the device (after giving you a warning that it is about to do so and giving you a chance to abort).

I've never tried it with my BB, but my understanding is that one or more times along the way during the 10 failed password attempts, it prompts you to type in a specific word. It only continues this process if you get the word right. This is to avoid the possibility of you "pocket dialing" the wrong password 10 times and erasing everything on the device.

I have a lock screen on my Samsung, and while I have never tried entering an incorrect password that many times, I'm sure it has a similar feature. I know that after like 3 or 4, it will start to lock you out for a few minutes and then longer and longer. It's frustrating that the phone wasn't preserved, assuming of course that there was something of value on it in the first place.

 

[Cheyenne130]

Or it's as simple as she didn't see them from 10 feet away? Or she forgot after 2 years? Or she didn't see Nancy, but she saw someone that looked like Nancy? I think the point of today's testimony is that we'll never know. The only people who showed RZ a lineup of potential joggers was the defense, and RZ picked out NC from the group. No other woman came forward and said, "hey, I spoke with a woman with a big lab on Lochmere that morning."

I don't discount RZ testimony based on the fact that she didn't recognize/remember earrings.

Where is the testimony that RZ picked Nancy out from a line up of pictures? Did she do that under oath? Did they produce all of the pictures shown to determine if it was an unbiased presentation?

 

[WolfpackWoman]

Where is the testimony that RZ picked Nancy out from a line up of pictures? Did she do that under oath? Did they produce all of the pictures shown to determine if it was an unbiased presentation?

She talked about that today during her testimony.