State vs Jason Lynn Young 2-28-12

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  • #521
Interesting comment. When the Highway Patrolman testified yesterday, someone made a comment about his brother being a friend of Jason's. I don't remember if it was you or Cammy, but one of you replied that he would never risk his reputation for his friend or brother.
What's the difference between him and Spivey? Spivey would but the other guy would not?
Is the difference because one is testifying on behalf of the defense and the other is testifying for Pros?

His partner was a life long friend of JY.
 
  • #522
Just a little something I just now thought about from this AM PY testimony. I had never heard before that JY told his mom the DNA results on the medicine dropper would probably come back as his. This makes me think that #1(obvious) JY had used the medicine dropper to give CY medicine at some recent time, and #2 that he talked with his Mama about this aspect of the investigation . All we have heard from everyone is he would not talk to anyone about the case.
 
  • #523
The search warrant issued 07/24/06 can be found at WRAL.

The wording of the warrant is as follows:

"Due to the situation with the child's bloodied footprints...vs. the the clean condition
of the child's feet when found, the confusion over the keys to the decendant's vehicle and how they came to be placed on the kitchen counter and M F's keys being found on the hood of the decendant's vehicle, it is believed that the 2000 Silver Lexus RX300 could have been used to transport the child from the scene. If this was the case, there may have been been transferance of blood from the scene to the vehicle using the child for conveyance".
Well, I would hope they would check out any other vehicles at the residence. If there was a theory that CY was taken from the home, they would be remiss not to. I guess it didn't pan out. jmo
 
  • #524
Does anyone even know if there is an "Enchanted Oaks Road" in the Enchanted Oaks subdivision?
 
  • #525
No disrespect to you here, but I believe you need to re-watch the testimony. JY turned over complete custody to MF ... that way he didn't have to undergo a psychological examination or deposition.

No disrespect taken..Up until he gave up custody, they had cut off contact with CY..I agree, he agreed to turn over custody to avoid deposition. But prior to that MY's family was cut off from CY. My point was that PY stated their fear of CY being taken from them and MY's family actually had that happen..forcing them to go to court for visitation.
 
  • #526
So,now the killer or killers are driving around in MY car and then they brought it back and parked in the garage!! If this was not a murder trial for a pregnant mother, I could honestly roll around in the floor and laugh my azz off!! Does the defense honestly think those men and women on this jury are that gullible. IMO

Then you would also be laughing at the state's theory as well, because that is EXACTLY what they contended when they issued a search warrant for Michelle's SILVER Lexus RX300 on July 24, 2006.
 
  • #527
Michelle said that he could have??? WOW!! So he had to get permission to have something.....

There is no "WOW" about this. Some would consider it quite normal to check with the spouse before bringing furniture into the house. It is not like it was some power tool to be kept in the garage. Don't you think it to be normal to consult with your spouse before adding new furniture, art work, etc., into your house?
 
  • #528
:waitasec:

It's very possible that the search warrant was ALSO issued because of Cindy Beaver's and Mrs. Hensley's testimonies and descriptions of cars, come to think of it.

Cindy says soccer Mom type car and Mrs. Hensley says silver.......
 
  • #529
yes enchanted oak dr when you first come in to the subdivision!!
 
  • #530
It was in the Enchanted Oaks subdivision as clarified by the defense attorney. She already said the car she saw was in the driveway of the Young property of which she didn't know the address. The car wasn't on any street.

While the prosecutor did a fine job of confusing some here and trying to confuse an elderly lady, I think the jury found the witness both credible and sure of seeing a vehicle in the Young driveway the morning of the murder. Too late to have possibly been Jason Young.

JMO


Thank you for your opinion. I am not confused.

My original reply was to your post that stated she did not say the car was not on Birchleaf. She did say it wasn't on Birchleaf.

My follow up reply was to your supposition that she was talking about the driveway and not on a road. The testimony shows she was not talking about road vs. driveway, she was talking about Birchleaf vs. Enchanted Oaks.

I cannot say if she is confusing the two, but I CAN say she DID say the car was not on Birchleaf and when asked, said it was on Enchanted Oaks.
 
  • #531
The search warrant issued 07/24/06 can be found at WRAL.

The wording of the warrant is as follows:

"Due to the situation with the child's bloodied footprints...vs. the the clean condition
of the child's feet when found, the confusion over the keys to the decendant's vehicle and how they came to be placed on the kitchen counter and M F's keys being found on the hood of the decendant's vehicle, it is believed that the 2000 Silver Lexus RX300 could have been used to transport the child from the scene. If this was the case, there may have been been transferance of blood from the scene to the vehicle using the child for conveyance".

Thank you so much!! Knew I had read it some where. Mostly just reading, can not keep up with everyone. Like me my computer is very slow.. :maddening:
 
  • #532
Does anyone even know if there is an "Enchanted Oaks Road" in the Enchanted Oaks subdivision?

Not Enchanted Oaks Road, but there is an Enchanted Oaks Drive.
 
  • #533
Then you would also be laughing at the state's theory as well, because that is EXACTLY what they contended when they issued a search warrant for Michelle's SILVER Lexus RX300 on July 24, 2006.

Yes, and MF was ready willing and able to answer all questions the LE had for her. Also took and passed a polygraph test. So good for the LE in looking closely at any possible suspects. So speculations that MY's Lexus was involved proved it was just that speculation.
 
  • #534
I believe some are confusing the purpose of some items LE investigated. Just like with in their attempt to find the perp, they begin on those closest to the victim, not to just prove they are the person they're looking for. They're investigating those closest to the victim so they can rule them OUT, and move on.

IMHO, it's the same with possible evidence. They need to look at ALL probabilities and ways the crime COULD have occurred and as each item is eliminated, move on to the next.

Apparently, what some of the even def witnesses have proven, that although some leads didn't pan out, they told the jury LE didn't just have tunnel vision towards JY. It's just that every time something became relevant, it led right back to JY.

JY has NEVER been ruled out as a possible suspect. His remaining silent, COMPLETELY to LE, proved his own undoing. Now his defense team is trying to show LE always were onto JY and showing what they believe as reasonable doubt. But what they've shown me, is LE did look at these possibilities and ruled them OUT.

Even JY's mom showed how she knew alleged evidence, things missing from the house, but she chose NOT to tell LE.

Why would she hold that to herself, when it COULD possibly lead the investigation away from her son and perhaps aid them in catching the murderer?

I bet the jury is asking that themselves right now.

JMHO
fran
 
  • #535
Thank you for your opinion. I am not confused.

My original reply was to your post that stated she did not say the car was not on Birchleaf. She did say it wasn't on Birchleaf.

My follow up reply was to your supposition that she was talking about the driveway. The testimony shows she was not talking about road vs. driveway, she was talking about Birchleaf Vs. Enchanted Oaks.

I cannot say if she is confusing the two, but I CAN say she DID say the car was not on Birchleaf and when asked, said it was on Enchanted Oaks.

The lady said the car was on the Young's driveway and she didn't know the address. If she said the car wasn't on Birchleaf, she literally meant it. The attorney followed up to point out the name of the subdivision is Enchanted Oaks. The cops took her seriously rather than confused and I'm betting so does the jury.

JMO
 
  • #536
There is no "WOW" about this. Some would consider it quite normal to check with the spouse before bringing furniture into the house. It is not like it was some power tool to be kept in the garage. Don't you think it to be normal to consult with your spouse before adding new furniture, art work, etc., into your house?

Yes there is a WOW!! No spouse should have to ASK if he or she can buy something, bring something home or do something..... You can discuss it but its like he HAD to get permission before he could bring it home....

For example this weekend Im going to buy the Paula Deen cookware set... Did I ask my husband if I could or if I could bring a set home?? No... When he wants to buy new tools he doesnt ask.. We talk about it, but we dont ask permission... Asking ur spouse if you can do something makes him or her look controlling..Hmmm!!!
 
  • #537
I guess the defense will continue with the eye witnesses seeing cars at the home, maybe Cindy Beaver will be next.

Travis Branch, the newspaper man was called as a rebuttal last time in the state's case, I am not sure if and how he will come in.
 
  • #538
Yikes! When I mapquested Birchleaf, Fielding Drive came up on the map as well!! An old flashback from the BC case......
 
  • #539
Yes, and MF was ready willing and able to answer all questions the LE had for her. Also took and passed a polygraph test. So good for the LE in looking closely at any possible suspects. So speculations that MY's Lexus was involved proved it was just that speculation.

Nonetheless, it was an LE theory that the jury should hear and decide for themselves.

Link, please, to MF passing a polygraph. Thanks.

JMO
 
  • #540
Then you would also be laughing at the state's theory as well, because that is EXACTLY what they contended when they issued a search warrant for Michelle's SILVER Lexus RX300 on July 24, 2006.

By 7/06 I think they had a good idea who had done this crime and why they were checking this car out!!
not random Killers!
 
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