State vs Jason Lynn Young 2-28-12

[3doglady]

I think it's also worth mentioning, on behalf of reasonable doubt, that the prosecution has attempted to pull the wool over the jury's eyes. Regarding the car accident testimony, rather than put the officer on the stand to testify about the facts of the accident, the prosecution paraded friends with rumors that implied Michelle was not wearing her seatbelt, that the accident was deliberate attempted murder and that the motive for that implied first attempted murder was insurance.

After the officer did testify, the prosecution then attempted to discredit him through another witness by implying that he was friends with the suspect and would lie. Was it too low to accuse the officer face-to-face that he may be falsifying testimony because he knew the suspect?

Maybe you missed it. Someone posted earlier that the PT did not know of the friendship until after the officer testified. Someone from Brevard got in touch with the PT and informed them of the friend connection. It was discussed earlier.

 

[traveler]

RE: the car accident. Hindsight is 20/20. NO ONE thought anything of it when it happened, but when you look at the insurance evidence and the fact that Michelle ends up murdered 5 months later, the whole incident becomes suspect.
Michelle was pregnant...why was she going to get coffee?? They were leaving that day to drive all the way back to Raleigh, why not stop on the way out to begin with.

 

[Cammy]

Their life insurance had been boosted to $1 million within weeks of the car incident, and to $4 million weeks before he succeeded. Two occurrences where a pregnant Michelle Young lost her baby. In the final occurrence, she also lost her life. Betcha the Hush Puppies were present in the car attempt also.

How in the world was Jason going to collect on any amount of insurance money, ever?

It is an ongoing murder investigation, no one is going to pay out on that kind of money.......


JMO

 

[SteelerGirl43]

Maybe you missed it. Someone posted earlier that the PT did not know of the friendship until after the officer testified. Someone from Brevard got in touch with the PT and informed them of the friend connection. It was discussed earlier.

Yea someone said they were in a "secret" fb group of people who were close to the case & they told them or something like that....

 

[Cammy]

RE: the car accident. Hindsight is 20/20. NO ONE thought anything of it when it happened, but when you look at the insurance evidence and the fact that Michelle ends up murdered 5 months later, the whole incident becomes suspect.
Michelle was pregnant...why was she going to get coffee?? They were leaving that day to drive all the way back to Raleigh, why not stop on the way out to begin with.

Jason was in the car too.........people seem to forget that.

Starbucks has juice and milk too........

 

[AlwaysShocked]

Re: PY's cross exam. I did not find the Prosecutor to be overly snarky or condescending towards her. If anything, there were a few times where I thought he let her slide when she failed to answer a question. Like when he asked her if she thought it was in Cassidy's best interest to not know that her Aunt and her Grandmother cared for her and wanted to have a relationship with her. And rather than answer, she just sat there.

I believe today's cross exam pretty clearly exposed PY's agenda. The things she could recall in minute detail all had to do with making Jason look better or look not guilty of this crime. The things she could not recall were things that made him look bad or look guilty. And she did that over and over and over again.

And I noticed the Defense attorney had no redirect questions. I think he just wanted to get her off the stand at that point.

I don't know whether I watch a whole lot more trials than others, but I have surely seen cross exams that were much, much harder on the witness than anything I've seen in this trial. Even Jeff Ashton in the CA trial was snippier than this guy was today. And Mark Geragos in the Peterson trial got pretty snide at times.

How Jason left no evidence in house or car: There was one point during his direct exam when he was describing his job duties in one of his jobs. He said it was selling some kind of medical equipment or device in which he was required to actually go into the Operating Room. Anyone who has spent any time at all in an OR knows how messy a place it can get to be. Especially during a total hip replacement. This is one of the messiest of surgeries - the docs wear white disposable medical coveralls and a clear plastic helmet type of thing that looks like a "spaceman helmet". And they are using saws and drills and hammers. And the blood is often flying.

So if you have seen surgery and you've seen the type of protective equipment used to protect against blood spatter and you watch CSI shows and you decide to kill your wife....
you dress appropriately for the job. Hair net covering, zip up coveralls, gloves.

Now, as for shoewear, in order to mislead investigators you purchase shoes two sizes too small. You flatten down the heel area in order to turn them into "slip ons" like the backless type of slip ons. And you make shoe prints with them. On purpose.

Then you strip off all the protective gear and you change back into your own size 12 Hush Puppies. Oh, but wait! Drat, the child is awake and in the room with her mother's body and blood! And your impulse to grab the child is so strong that you forget that you have your own Hush Puppies on your feet now. And by the time you remember it, you've already tracked blood onto the carpeting in the size 12s.

What to do, what to do? Got to get the kid to sleep somehow. (This little girl is lucky to be alive!) And while you are doing that you get to think about the shoe prints. And since you've picked up the child with MY's blood on her feet, you are going to have to dispose of your clothing. You know you can't get rid of the size 12 shoeprints because Luminol will find them. All that's left is to put on third pair of shoes (had to move the body to get into the closet to get another pair of shoes?) and BE CAREFUL. And make up a story about no longer owning any Hush Puppies.

And all of these unexpected complications made him be late for his scheduled appointment.

The missing Hush Puppies and the missing clothing are his greatest weakness, aren't they? So that's where the Prosecution should concentrate during the closing.

 

[Cammy]

I was leaning to NG until the internet search showing the map of where NC's body was found (he googled it the day before the murder). I firmly believe JY is guilty as sin.

I was surprised at the BC Verdict, I must admit.

 

[otto]

Michelle did not have her seat belt off.

If the airbag on the passenger side of the vehicle had been tampered with, that would support the theory that the accident was a murder attempt. Since they were both wearing seatbelts, everything functioned as expected and both Jason and Michelle equally risked serious injury, it appears to be a routine accident in a location where similar accidents had previously occurred.

The prosecution did some very strange things by presenting the accident as a murder attempt using 20/20 hindsight rumor testimony from friends of Michelle. I'm of the opinion that if the prosecution was 100% above board, the investigating officer would have been introduced by the prosecution. That would have cleared up the quetsion of whether seatbelts were worn, but it would have detracted from the prosecution's prior murder attempt theory.

 

[fifteen89]

I think it's also worth mentioning, on behalf of reasonable doubt, that the prosecution has attempted to pull the wool over the jury's eyes. Regarding the car accident testimony, rather than put the officer on the stand to testify about the facts of the accident, the prosecution paraded friends with rumors that implied Michelle was not wearing her seatbelt, that the accident was deliberate attempted murder and that the motive for that implied first attempted murder was insurance.

After the officer did testify, the prosecution then attempted to discredit him through another witness by implying that he was friends with the suspect and would lie. Was it too low to accuse the officer face-to-face that he may be falsifying testimony because he knew the suspect?

When did they "accuse the officer face-to-face that he may be falsifying testimony"? If I were a juror, I would maybe feel free to wonder if being Jason's friend might sway the officer to not LOOK for anything that might point to a non-accident, or not NOTICE something that might point to a non-accident, etc. I wouldn't even necessarily think it was anything other than a subconscious thing because of their friendship. I didn't hear anyone accuse the officer of lying, falsifying reports or his testimony or anything like that.

 

[BrownRice]

Yes, it does,
It would show why Jason did those computer searches.

The defense does not have to do anything, they can sit there and stare at the ceiling and not present a single witness if they
a) possibly think their client did it
b)think the state put on a lousy case

After these past 2 days and the vigorous defense they are putting on, neither of the above appears to be true.

jmo, of course.

Ok, I see how you see this. If you (juror - not you Cammy) were completely on the fence, not leaning either way, I can see how you could find this relevant. As a G believer, I don't put any stock whatsoever in the internet searches (meaning I don't think it makes him guilty because of it), so to me it's a non-issue.

I love your posts though and your top 50 list is very compelling and has some good points. I am not a person who thinks he is guilty and refuses to look at other evidence showing NG, but to me it's not looking good for him.

 

[Cammy]

The Youngs and The Fishers relationship doesn't sound like it was all that great, even before, except with maybe MF.

They were 2 different kinds of Mother In Laws......thats for sure, but they were good moms and grandmoms.

I hate seeing family members of either side being attacked, I think HC went overboard on Pat Young today, I almost think he was lashing out at Jason through her.

They knew by today he was not going to testify again........

 

[traveler]

Jason was in the car too.........people seem to forget that.

Starbucks has juice and milk too........

Then why didn't he just go by himself? Again, why not just stop on the way out to Raleigh? Why so insistent to go without CY in the car?

 

[3doglady]

Yea someone said they were in a "secret" fb group of people who were close to the case & they told them or something like that....

I don't know the person who posted it, but it makes sense. If the PT had known, I think they would have loved to question the officer about it. That would have put his testimony in a different light.

 

[fredwomble]

Bags do get rips and tears in them... It could have happened and blood got on something... If I had killed someone u can bet I would make sure nothing was in my car if I used it to transfer anything bloody..

He put so much thought into this, but yet he wore his shoes that he normally liked to wear... Hmmmm!! Not buying it....

Jason didn't plan as perfectly as he obviously thought (do murderers ever?). Initially planned the "knockout"/strangle route. Michelle struggled and he lost it (refer to Gen Cargol's testimony for reference). Things got very bloody. He had no way of anticipating Cassidy walking in on the scene, hence the bloody footprints. Those two unexpected factors - blood and Cassidy - led to Jason's biggest mistakes. Footprint, and cleaned, drugged Cassidy, whose blood-stained diaper disappeared with the rest of the evidence - Jason's clothing that was never recovered and the weapon (lifehammer perhaps).

 

[Cammy]

Ok, I see how you see this. If you (juror - not you Cammy) were completely on the fence, not leaning either way, I can see how you could find this relevant. As a G believer, I don't put any stock whatsoever in the internet searches (meaning I don't think it makes him guilty because of it), so to me it's a non-issue.

I love your posts though and your top 50 list is very compelling and has some good points. I am not a person who thinks he is guilty and refuses to look at other evidence showing NG, but to me it's not looking good for him.

Thank you, and I enjoy yours too.
I also know I can be stubborn to a fault.
More than anything I want Jason to be innocent for CY.
Not NG, not a hung injury, but innocent to the point he would never take her Mom for her.

 

[pjcitizen]

Even if the accident Jason was "first responder" to is real, which it very well might be I can agree because of the email to GC, I see no way that proves the accident was connected to the suspicious internet searches.

IMO

 

[Bottle Cap]

Thank you, and I enjoy yours too.
I also know I can be stubborn to a fault.
More than anything I want Jason to be innocent for CY.
Not NG, not a hung injury, but innocent to the point he would never take her Mom for her.

JY's guilt or innocence is already firmly established as a truth that exists in the universe; nothing a jury comes down with is going to change that at its ultimate level. A jury can't make him innocent or guilty.

 

[hindsight2020]

Thank you, and I enjoy yours too.
I also know I can be stubborn to a fault.
More than anything I want Jason to be innocent for CY.
Not NG, not a hung injury, but innocent to the point he would never take her Mom for her.

Cammy, it's too late for JY. . .it is beyond repair, regardless of the outcome.

 

[johnfear]

Ok, I see how you see this. If you (juror - not you Cammy) were completely on the fence, not leaning either way, I can see how you could find this relevant. As a G believer, I don't put any stock whatsoever in the internet searches (meaning I don't think it makes him guilty because of it), so to me it's a non-issue.

I love your posts though and your top 50 list is very compelling and has some good points. I am not a person who thinks he is guilty and refuses to look at other evidence showing NG, but to me it's not looking good for him.

Your icon is awesome. (I have a HUGE rottie puppy myself) That dog looks like he'd lick your hand and take down a burglar.

 

[johnfear]

Just a thought. I think a NG would allow an overturning of the wrongful death lawsuit. Hmmm...