State vs Jason Lynn Young 6-13-11

[dgfred]

I can't imagine it ever being cold enough in Nov in NC for pipes to freeze. IMO, Jason used that hose to wash blood off of something.

Not very often is it cold enough in Nov. Mostly late Dec, Jan and Feb here about an hour east of Raleigh.

 

[Landonsmom02]

MY was home, so they would not have needed to leave the water running to preserve the pipes... She would have been using the water. Are you suggesting that JY turned it on to save his pipes on the way out? LOLOL he barely gave enough care in preserving his daughter.

lol.....No the thought just popped in my mind. It was just a thought/question. I too think JY cleaned off with the hose.And the temp has dropped low here before in Nov/Dec for a freeze warning to be issued.

 

[borndem]

I agree with others that he washed outside. Only had his head to worry about.
Don't think he would have had a ski mask with him since the murder started out as a soft kill/strangulation.

Good point -- he wasn't expecting blood -- and I think he thought she'd be asleep, and maybe she was, but she may have been sitting up and working on work stuff. If so, each surprised the other. And JY had to work harder and longer than he thought. Success here was hard-earned.

On another note entirely -- and I wondered the same thing with BC -- When JY gets in his little jail bed at the end of the day, does he think he's going to beat this murder charge? We'll never know, but it does intrigue me...

 

[happy2binNC]

Almanac.com is showing a low of 28 degrees on 11/4/06, high of 51. No rain or snow that day. So yeah, it would have been a cold night to be outside with the water hose, but if you're covered in blood and wanting to avoid the death penalty, it's probably the better alternative.

 

[No Coincidence]

He read the signature as being Jason's on the card.

So the card was sent from Orlando? The same day that Michelle had him being in Wilmington in her calendar?

I thought the Wilmington dates were the same as those on the USA today paper that was seized from the car, also coinciding with the dates of her death. Am I mistaken?

 

[borndem]

He read the signature as being Jason's on the card.

So the card was sent from Orlando? The same day that Michelle had him being in Wilmington in her calendar?

Oh, sorry -- didn't hear that it was signed by JY -- maybe that's the card (Mother's Day, was it? whichever...) that was the single gift he gave MY that pizzed off MY, her mother and sister since it was so chintzy. Thus the ruse about the Coach bag -- done at 7:08pm, just a few hours before MY breathed her last breath and needed many, many Band-Aids.

 

[jilly]

And the water hose was heard running by MF and confirmed to be on. Something just dawned on me. Being November and it was very cold out do you think they would live some water running so the pipes wouldn't freeze? My husband and I use to do this at a house we rented because it was an older home. I never thought about that until now. Can we see what the temp was back in Nov. 06? Wasn't it said that their heat wasn't working upstairs?

Aside from what the other posters here say about Nov NC weather, you wouldn't normally leave an outside tap on to prevent the pipe from freezing. You'd probably put some insulation around that hose tap. At least that's how it is where I live. For other pipes, if you're worried, yes, you'd leave a tap or two inside the house running very slowly.

 

[borndem]

I thought the Wilmington dates were the same as those on the USA today paper that was seized from the car, also coinciding with the dates of her death. Am I mistaken?

I thought so, too, Coinkidink - especially since USA Today does not produce a Sat. or a Sun. edition. I could be mistaken, too.

 

[jilly]

Good point -- he wasn't expecting blood -- and I think he thought she'd be asleep, and maybe she was, but she may have been sitting up and working on work stuff. If so, each surprised the other. And JY had to work harder and longer than he thought. Success here was hard-earned.

On another note entirely -- and I wondered the same thing with BC -- When JY gets in his little jail bed at the end of the day, does he think he's going to beat this murder charge? We'll never know, but it does intrigue me...

Not by his expressions in Court lately along with his blinking and bulging veins. He looks exhausted to me today. I think he's genuinely worried and I doubt he's sleeping much.

 

[traveler]

I thought the Wilmington dates were the same as those on the USA today paper that was seized from the car, also coinciding with the dates of her death. Am I mistaken?

From what I thought, the Wilmington dates in the calendar book were for October 6th and 7th weekend with the card postmarked from Orlando that weekend in October and the USA today was the November 3, 4, and 5th weekend edition that he picked up from the hotel in Hillsville. Please correct me if someone heard something else.

 

[No Coincidence]

I thought so, too, Coinkidink - especially since USA Today does not produce a Sat. or a Sun. edition. I could be mistaken, too.

haha, coinkidink. Funny. I am not sure why the Wilmington evidence was presented (as far as the info in her calendar goes). Where is Wilmington? Is this the same thing as Hillsdale?I am going to research this a little more...

 

[No Coincidence]

From what I thought, the Wilmington dates in the calendar book were for October 6th and 7th weekend with the card postmarked from Orlando that weekend in October and the USA today was the November 3, 4, and 5th weekend edition that he picked up from the hotel in Hillsville. Please correct me if someone heard something else.

Ahhhhh. Ok. So then the evidence compared from her Calendar to the card suggests that she did not know where he really was (Orlando). I am not sure why this is particularly tied to the newspaper? Maybe it wasnt, and just seemed like it based on the introduction of certain pieces of evidence.

 

[terminatrixator]

I dont completely disagree with your theory, but it is complete insanity how someone could manage to avoid all forensic proof placing him at the crime scene. Like I've stated previously, IMO he definitely killed MY. Madeleine how do you suppose he made the clothes/weapon disappear?

He had a nice drive to be able to dump the clothes and any evidence. Raven Abaroa did the same thing. It's not really that hard to avoid the forensic proof placing him at the crime scene when he actually lives there.

To Otto - Re: Jason taking a shower outside...he swallowed someone's wedding rings, exposed himself, and murdered his wife, rinsing off outside in November shouldn't be that big of a stretch imo.

 

[DogWood]

From what I thought, the Wilmington dates in the calendar book were for October 6th and 7th weekend with the card postmarked from Orlando that weekend in October and the USA today was the November 3, 4, and 5th weekend edition that he picked up from the hotel in Hillsville. Please correct me if someone heard something else.

That's correct.

FWIW, Michelle and JY's wedding anniversary was October 10th.

MM lived in Orlando. Just sayin'.

ETA:
Translation: JY mailed an anniversary card to Michelle while bedding MM. What a guy.

MOO

 

[otto]

Does the prosecution think that what he did?

I don't think so. We know that the hose was barely running when Meredith arrived. That would suggest to me that he washed up his hands just before leaving.

 

[otto]

Does that help, Otto? It is kind of our assumption of a last chance effort to explain JY's clothes never found, no blood in the car, the blood on the door knob, no clothes ever found, and no DNA in the shower (and no clothes found) of MY or evidence of another intruder.

Did I mention that we never found the clothes he was seen leaving the hotel in? :seeya::seeya::seeya::seeya:

He sure did a lot of planning for the murder!

 

[No Coincidence]

He had a nice drive to be able to dump the clothes and any evidence. Raven Abaroa did the same thing. It's not really that hard to avoid the forensic proof placing him at the crime scene when he actually lives there.

To Otto - Re: Jason taking a shower outside...he swallowed someone's wedding rings, exposed himself, and murdered his wife, rinsing off outside in November shouldn't be that big of a stretch imo.

You think the investigators canvassed gas stations but didnt look for the clothes? I guess it is a long long drive to be able to search for debris.. hmm.

 

[No Coincidence]

He sure did a lot of planning for the murder!

I think that no matter how hard you planned for this stuff, some of it has got to be good "luck" on his part.... he couldn't plan for the fact that no one saw him, and he couldn't plan for the fact that the gas station he blew up in didnt have functioning cameras, and the beating death was because the strangling didnt work.... so he didnt exactly plan to bring a bag/way to clean himself/etc. I hate how random this stuff is.

 

[otto]

He had a nice drive to be able to dump the clothes and any evidence. Raven Abaroa did the same thing. It's not really that hard to avoid the forensic proof placing him at the crime scene when he actually lives there.

To Otto - Re: Jason taking a shower outside...he swallowed someone's wedding rings, exposed himself, and murdered his wife, rinsing off outside in November shouldn't be that big of a stretch imo.

It seems like he had a big bump on the frontal lobe at some point and lost all inhibition.

 

[borndem]

Not by his expressions in Court lately along with his blinking and bulging veins. He looks exhausted to me today. I think he's genuinely worried and I doubt he's sleeping much.

Aw-w-w-w-ww, such a pity. I would think his attys. would evaluate the day with him, unless they've already told him that they didn't expect good results.

On the other hand, I think K bolstered BC's hopes during the whole trial by saying he thought they were winning -- Coop's smirk never went away until the last day -- or so it looked to me....