Steven Avery: Guilty of Teresa Halbach's Murder? #2

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Because maybe Brendan witnessed something BoD did? It will be interesting to see what the luminol testing KZ had done in the Dassey garage yields.

I find myself more and more re-thinking what Brendan knows, saw or heard.
In MaM2 it appeared Barb and Scott were worried when they thought Brendan was getting out. Legitimately worried. They didn’t want anyone else to get to him first. Lots of red flags came up for me in that sequence.
 
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I find myself more and more re-thinking what Brendan knows, saw or heard.
In MaM2 it appeared Barb and Scott were worried when they thought Brendan was getting out. Legitimately worried. They didn’t want anyone else to get to him first. Lots of red flags came up for me in that sequence.
I agree it is definitely worrisome with ST & BT.
I also think Brendan could of seen or heard something as well.
 
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Indeed, and why did Barb decide to finally speak with Zellner after dodging her for the previous year?
Yes i wonder too? Noted also in BT's affadavit on page 81, that she told investigators whom she had met with that she didn't believe SA had killed TH.
But the police report stated otherwise.
 
  • #226
I never said I don’t understand anything.

Let me spell it out for you. I am open to discussing this case with anyone with any GENUINE opinion.

After reading your posts for the past little while, I do not believe that you genuinely believe what you are saying. You are clearly here with an agenda: Smear Avery and smear Zellner.

What you are doing is scary & disturbing.

Let me spell it out for you - you are on ignore ...
 
  • #227
Yes but he was still trying to be in touch with her on the 31st. Oct. 2005.

Then how do you know it wasn't him (Bradley Czech) harassing TH ?
 
  • #228
I agree it is definitely worrisome with ST & BT.
I also think Brendan could of seen or heard something as well.

BBM - he did - he heard TH screaming and the sounds of the gunshots that killed her.
 
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Then how do you know it wasn't him (Bradley Czech) harassing TH ?
Glaring Mistakes Made by Incompetent Investigators
Kathleen Zellner believes investigators made a large number of glaring mistakes.

1) October 29, 2005. Two days before Halbach was murdered, at around 11:45 p.m., she made two calls to a phone that belonged to a man since charged with sexual crimes in Arizona. For Zellner, any “well-trained investigator” would have been all over that. Not only that, they would have gone and talked to him and interviewed other people she spoke to right before her murder.

“She’s like prey being stalked,” she said. “And that’s [the most likely type of] person who would have been after her.”

Strange phone calls. Thomas Pearce, a friend who shared his photography studio with Halbach, remembers her getting numerous phone calls she refused to answer. She received those calls in the early summer to midsummer. There was a lull, but then the calls started to come in again just three weeks before she was murdered.

According to Zellner, police did not investigate these mysterious phone calls.

“You don’t just get information like that and file it,” she said. “What investigation was done? None. There was no effort to trace those calls.”
https://crimeola.com/kathleen-zellner-wiki-lawyer-steven-avery/
 
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Glaring Mistakes Made by Incompetent Investigators
Kathleen Zellner believes investigators made a large number of glaring mistakes.

1) October 29, 2005. Two days before Halbach was murdered, at around 11:45 p.m., she made two calls to a phone that belonged to a man since charged with sexual crimes in Arizona. For Zellner, any “well-trained investigator” would have been all over that. Not only that, they would have gone and talked to him and interviewed other people she spoke to right before her murder.

“She’s like prey being stalked,” she said. “And that’s [the most likely type of] person who would have been after her.”

Strange phone calls. Thomas Pearce, a friend who shared his photography studio with Halbach, remembers her getting numerous phone calls she refused to answer. She received those calls in the early summer to midsummer. There was a lull, but then the calls started to come in again just three weeks before she was murdered.

According to Zellner, police did not investigate these mysterious phone calls.

“You don’t just get information like that and file it,” she said. “What investigation was done? None. There was no effort to trace those calls.”
https://crimeola.com/kathleen-zellner-wiki-lawyer-steven-avery/

BBM - since charged. IMO, Avery could have been charged with numerous sex crimes, including sex with minors.

Apparently, TH was no saint. No one really knows what went on in her personal life.

All goes back to no one else's DNA was in the Rav4 and SA was the last person who acknowledged seeing TH.
Or and BD's multiple confessions ...
 
  • #233
BBM - he did - he heard TH screaming and the sounds of the gunshots that killed her.
What gunshots would that be? Where are the bullets?
 
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BBM - since charged. IMO, Avery could have been charged with numerous sex crimes, including sex with minors.

Apparently, TH was no saint. No one really knows what went on in her personal life.

All goes back to no one else's DNA was in the Rav4 and SA was the last person who acknowledged seeing TH.
Or and BD's multiple confessions ...
Do you have a link for all those crimes?
 
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What gunshots would that be? Where are the bullets?

Numerous shell casings were found in SA's garage. What happens to bullets when someone is shot 10 or so times and then the body is burned ?
 
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Numerous shell casings were found in SA's garage. What happens to bullets when someone is shot 10 or so times ?
There is usually retrievable evidence on them if they shot someone i would imagine. There were numerous shell casings on the property. I think the guy that owned the .22 in Avery's trailer said thousands of them from shooting gophers etc. around there.
 
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BBM - all of the truthers feel the same way so you're in good company.

Legitimate business is not coming out in a towel to meet the Auto Trade chick. And if he had done legitimate business, why dial *67 to hide your identity ? Why leave Barb's phone # if you're the one that will be meeting TH ? As far as the DNA and cleanup, SA had at least 3 days before TH was reported missing. As far as I know, the key was found on the floor after the bookcase was shook. Who else had a big cut on their finger at the time of the crime ? And of TH was only there for 5 minutes, why didn't SA go back to work until 5pm ?

Zellner's tests prove nothing other than she knows how to procure experts that can do tests in a controlled environment 12+ years after the crime was committed.

But keep truthing ... nothing like a good conspiracy theory even though half of the LE enforcement personnel, prosecutors, and lab folks in Wisconsin would risk their jobs/careers/reputations to participate.

And go ahead and keep believing that Brendan Dassey made up everything lol ..

Common sense is the least common of all senses.

More idle speculation to add to the list.

For example, there is zero evidence any blood supposedly recovered from the RAV4 came from a cut finger.
There's zero evidence a pool owner wrapping a towel around himself when a visitor arrives shows a propensity to commit a vicious murder.
There's zero evidence the newly-cut key allegedly found in Steven's bedroom was ever on or in the book case.
There's zero evidence taking an afternoon off work shows a propensity to commit any sort of crime whatsoever.

The prosecution case against Brendan is a conspiracy theory BTW. So that makes you a conspiracy theorist, too.

And just FYI - Kratz denied there was any such conspiracy when arguing his case against Steven. Could it be his drug addiction clouding his mind? Or just a cynical willingness to lie when it suits his purpose?

If having the truth on my side makes me a truther, then I'm glad. Sure beats the alternative.

All MOO
 
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