Strange, doncha think?

[Barbara]

"Once the commotion was heard it didn't take a rocket scientist to know what was going on."

You mean Toth, that despite the ransom note, and all that was going on, Patsy automatically knew that JonBenet was dead in the house? No reason to be panicked at the scream, the call for an ambulance (which usually suggests that someone is still alive, for crying out loud). Deceased persons don't need ambulances.

I guess Patsy must be secretely a rocket scientist after all. She actually knew that despite the call to get an ambulance, JonBenet was already dead and that her husband was just fine.

Wow

 

[Shylock]

Originally posted by Barbara
I guess Patsy must be secretely a rocket scientist after all. She actually knew that despite the call to get an ambulance, JonBenet was already dead and that her husband was just fine.

Wow

Yup! - You got it Barbara. That Patsy is soooooo smart she knew right away it wasn't her stressed-out husband lying on the basement floor having a heart attack.

LOL

 

[sissi]

Shamu, it's okay, they are adults now,and if they were to choose to wear purple,considering it's the football team colors,I would have no say. I have yet to see any of my grandchildren in purple,so I guess it's like breaking a mirror to some,ya just don't feel the need to do it.
IMO JMO

 

[shamu]

Well wearing purple is much more fun than breaking mirrors! Have never broken a mirror on purpose. Well, maybe once... was drunk... but I *think* it was accidental. In college, my bf was out with another girl and his roommate had a party! My friends and I crept into bf's bedroom in his absence and we were up to shenanigans --burning photo of the girl etc --stupid stuff-- when mirror got broken. I left a NOTE! It said ""I didn't break your damned mirror. I don't know who did it.""

LOL

Sorry all, as this does not relate to Patsy

Or does it?

Anyway Sissi, try wearing purple... you might like it!

 

[Imon128]

Originally posted by Toth
Patsy was seated at the time and as she attempted to get up and run, two friends restrained her.

It would have taken more than 2 friends to restrain me under those circumstances to go to my daughter OR MY HUSBAND, as Barbara so wisely pointed out, hubby could have been having a heart attack or dead. :fuming:

 

[Ivy]

Why would Patsy's friends restrain her? Why would they want to keep her from running to her daughter's side? After all, supposedly no one knew at that point that JonBenet was dead.

I don't believe the "Patsy's friends restrained her" story.

 

[Toth]

[I don't believe the "Patsy's friends restrained her" story.

You could be right. Its possible. I was not there. However, the victim-advocate, a civilian employee of the BPD, who was there has not contradicted this assertion.

 

[Ivy]

According to PMPT, Barbara Fernie led Patsy to the room where JonBenet's body lay under the Christmas tree. No one is described as restraining Patsy, nor is Patsy described as trying to run anywhere.

Also according to PMPT, John raced up the basement stairs carrying JonBenet's body, yelling that she had been found. Fleet followed right behind him, yelling for an ambulance. Why did Patsy remain seated in the sunroom? Why didn't she immediately jump up and rush to see how badly her daughter had been injured? Why did Patsy sit and stare out the window for a time? "She did not move despite all the shouting that JonBenet had been found." (PMPT pb p.19)

 

[Blazeboy3]

Originally posted by Ivy
According to PMPT, Barbara Fernie led Patsy to the room where JonBenet's body lay under the Christmas tree. No one is described as restraining Patsy, nor is Patsy described as trying to run anywhere.

Also according to PMPT, John raced up the basement stairs carrying JonBenet's body, yelling that she had been found. Fleet followed right behind him, yelling for an ambulance. Why did Patsy remain seated in the sunroom? Why didn't she immediately jump up and rush to see how badly her daughter had been injured? Why did Patsy sit and stare out the window for a time? "She did not move despite all the shouting that JonBenet had been found." (PMPT pb p.19)

WHY NOT? Patsy's GREATEST USA PERFORMANCE OF ALL?...YA THINK?

 

[ajt400]

No, the deceased do not need amulances, but how is JR supposed to know there was nothing they could do for JBR? If I encountered my child dead in the basement, I would probably scream, and so would everyone else on this forum. Hell, I would scream bloody murder---then I would probably just go into shock. Maybe PR just couldn't face whatever was making JR scream, maybe she kniew what was down there.....

 

[ajt400]

And if I did it, I would not want to have to be the one to find her....BTW, was JR scream fake sounding? There were enough people there, someone must have head whether or not people in the Ramsey's house that day thought his scream and immediate reaction was faked.

 

[Toth]

No one has said anything improper about that morning except Officer Donut who seems to be an expert in interpreting how mothers react to a kidnapp situation and bury their head in their hands. He doesn't appear to be an expert at opening latched doors however.

 

[Barbara]

Originally posted by ajt400
... maybe she kniew what was down there.....

I think you're right on the money AJT!

 

[Barbara]

Originally posted by Toth
No one has said anything improper about that morning except Officer Donut who seems to be an expert in interpreting how mothers react to a kidnapp situation and bury their head in their hands. He doesn't appear to be an expert at opening latched doors however.

You may be right Toth. I would guess that any expert would agree that if someone is screaming that they found someone who was missing AND screaming to call an ambulance, I guess just about everyone, except me and a few others on the forum would automatically know that the missing person was already dead and not in need of HER MOTHER or an ambulance. :liar:

AND this was supposed to be a kidnapping.

Sure thing Toth

What was I thinking? :banghead:

 

[Imon128]

It should have been pretty obvious to JR that JB was dead. Cold to the touch, blue lips, rigor mortis, etc. I think he'd read one too many crime books or watched one too many detective shows on TV and KNEW that a person should deny their victim is dead, upon discovery. Backfired on HIM, though, IMO because it would be obvious to a frog that little child was deader than a doornail.

John COULD have felt for a pulse, done CPR, etc., if he REALLY thought JB was alive. Instead he made a grandstand theatrical performance to ask Arndt if JB was dead. Oh well, so little time to perfect the screen play. Sigh.

 

[Barbara]

"....Oh well, so little time to perfect the screen play. Sigh...."

Let's be a little sympathetic. They needed the time to write the "novel" first

 

[Imon128]

:doh: Silly, me!! Of course, you're correct, Barbara. Unless we reverse thoughts and consider the ransom note the novel?? Teehee. We bad, we bad.

 

[ajt400]

I know I would be doing CPR, and the last time I took a class I was in 6th grade.....but I would have been doing whatever needed to be done.

 

[Imon128]

Exactly. And both John and Patsy should have been trained in CPR. Especially, John as CEO, would be trained in CPR. John and Patsy Ramsey (this right-on-top-of-it-loving,caring,couple) NOT trained in CPR? Anybody know?

 

[ajt400]

Why would they need to know CPR? Everyone doesn't know it. They had no obligation to know CPR except for their own well-being, right?