Sunday 6/2/13 on True Crime Radio - Elaine Redwine

[cluciano63]

I think the old Ipod thing is like old cell phones. I seldom even use one, but there are at least three old ones in drawers.

 

[mijamawi]

My DD won two of them at her graduation party. My husband works at Disney Studios and they gave them to the employees for Christmas. My son used to work at Best Buy and they sold the used and damaged ones really cheap. We had several bouncing around here at all times.

Err, ok, not everyone has that kind of luck or a spouse that works at Disney or a kid that works at Best Buy. Some people don't even have 1 iPod, let alone 3 iPods.... only to lose.

 

[cluciano63]

I think the old Ipod thing is like old cell phones. I seldom even use one, but there are at least three old ones in drawers.

 

[Dee10]

No. Cory's girlfriends I Pod being in the mix is what I find convoluted.

It's possible LE showed them to her to see if they belonged to Dylan or not? Not necessarily directed at you Ranch but I am not following why these old Ipods are of interest?

 

[dlc]

I'd like to make a motion to stop sleuthing and/or posting derogatory remarks and insinuations about Mark Redwine unless or until LE names him a suspect or POI. He has gone above and beyond to make himself available, answered any and all questions posed to him, and he deserves to be treated like a victim in this case at this point.

Or, no one and nothing should be out of bounds. JMO.

Very respectfully, we don't know that he has answered any and all questions posed to him. As I recall, there are many questions he has not answered, or answered differently every time they've been asked. I'm not sure how he has gone above and beyond to make himself available -- he fought efforts to appear on television, he has participated in only one search, he put off Tricia's repeated invitations to appear on her show, he's dodged multiple polygraphs...

No matter how you spin it, he was the last person that is known to have seen Dylan Redwine alive. The many excuses for Dylan's lack of communication that have been offered up here - no wifi, broken phone, no phone charger, a non-texting ipod, etc., etc., were, thank God, finally laid to rest tonight -- kudos to Tricia. He still has not, to my knowledge, answered the very simple question of why his son went quiet at 9:37 on Sunday night. Until he does, and explains his behavior afterwards, he will continue to be a POI. IMO.

Also, IMO, you cannot move from the logical starting place until it is cleared, and you can't clear it until you get greater transparency from the person in that house.

And for the record, if the situation were reversed, and Dylan was lost by Elaine, and if she had extenuating factors attached to her background, I would understand MR being furious with her. This is not about moms vs. dads, or men vs. women for me. It's not some kind of sociological game, or seeing who can be nastiest and get away with it in social media. It's about finding a missing child.

 

[cluciano63]

When Kyron went missing, Desiree's first instinct was to demand to know what Terri did with him...and she has never wavered from her instinct, yet she had massive support from the very start. JMO

 

[katydid23]

Err, ok, not everyone has that kind of luck or a spouse that works at Disney or a kid that works at Best Buy. Some people don't even have 1 iPod, let alone 3 iPods.... only to lose.

It sounds like Elaine does. Her oldest son was old enough to go through a few of them. The 13 yr old would have a few hand me downs, imo

 

[Ghostwheel]

If it's from Tricia's show then don't bother looking. I admit that I don't know Mark's intent with that comment.

FYI-I edited and quoted it above. The intent is pretty blunt, but to each their own interpretation.

 

[mijamawi]

It's possible LE showed them to her to see if they belonged to Dylan or not? Not necessarily directed at you Ranch but I am not following why these old Ipods are of interest?

They were obviously of some interest to LE, since they seized them.

It sounds like Elaine does. Her oldest son was old enough to go through a few of them. The 13 yr old would have a few hand me downs, imo

I can understand going through several iPods if they break, but obviously that's not the case if they were handed down.

 

[katydid23]

They were obviously of some interest to LE, since they seized them.



I can understand going through several iPods if they break, but obviously that's not the case if they were handed down.

Once the ipod touch came out, the kids wanted to get that one and dump the boring old shuffles. Corey and his gf probably got the touch and gave Dylan the old ones.

 

[Ghostwheel]

They were obviously of some interest to LE, since they seized them.



I can understand going through several iPods if they break, but obviously that's not the case if they were handed down.

BBM: Just to explain how it worked in our house, the oldest had an iPod. When the oldest got a smart phone, the iPod was no longer used. It was handed down, and it still worked. If we weren't so stingy, there might have been an iPod shuffle and an iPod nano and an iPod whatever (there was in my sister's family), that got handed down as each iPod was upgraded over the years. Some people get each new iteration of iPod (I'm not one of them, I love my Sansa Clip-even with the broken clip)

 

[Deleted member 39678]

FYI-I edited and quoted it above. The intent is pretty blunt, but to each their own interpretation.

Your correct in saying "to each their own interpretation."

 

[Ghostwheel]

Your correct in saying "to each their own interpretation."

It's why I said it.

 

[Tonto]

Very respectfully, we don't know that he has answered any and all questions posed to him.

He has answered every question posed to him that I have heard and that you have heard.

As I recall, there are many questions he has not answered, or answered differently every time they've been asked.

You state that there are many questions he has not answered, yet when you hear him in a carte blanche interview, he answers ALL questions. Interesting. That he deviates slightly sometimes is perfectly reasonable. As a matter of fact, it would be more suspicious if his story was verbatim every time.

I'm not sure how he has gone above and beyond to make himself available -- he fought efforts to appear on television, he has participated in only one search, he put off Tricia's repeated invitations to appear on her show, he's dodged multiple polygraphs...

You've heard that he's fought efforts, yet you have no proof other than what you've heard. He's given comprehensive interviews to police, to Dr. Springer, to professional reporters, and now to Tricia. I too would have refused a polygraph for Dr. Springer considering my nerves would have been shot after being accosted for hours.

No matter how you spin it,

I'm the one spinning, yet you and others are taking everything he says and does and making it fit your preconceived narrative. Right. Let's be intellectually honest here.

he was the last person that is known to have seen Dylan Redwine alive.

He was the last known person to see Dylan alive. Can you think of any other cases where a child went missing where one of his parents was the last known person to see their child alive yet had nothing to do with it? Especially considering there are zero known facts or evidence to lead you - or police evidently - to suspect him or at the very least call him a person of interest.

he will continue to be a POI. IMO.

Well thank God police and reasonable folks wait for facts and evidence.

t's not some kind of sociological game, or seeing who can be nastiest and get away with it in social media. It's about finding a missing child.

In that case, perhaps you should reconsider your support, considering none of those things seem to matter to MR either. He isn't the one slandering his ex - or condoning it - every chance he gets on social media and elsewhere. That he might lash out a little when he gets the chance to do it face to face is perfectly acceptable, IMO, considering what they say and do on a virtual daily basis.

 

[katydid23]

Your correct in saying "to each their own interpretation."

I don't see a lot of interpretations other than he was slamming Elaine and accusing her of not really searching for Dylan. What other interpretation is there?



Approx 82.16
"The difference between I-I think that me and my ex-wife is that I don't search because I'm looking for recognition, an' I search because it's the right thing to do and it's what I want to be a part of in bringing Dylan home. So, you know, just because I don't go out and-and-and-and follow the cameras, doesn't mean I'm not out searching."

 

[dlc]

Thanks for all your support.


I didn't think Mark Redwine would call in. I was surprised.

All I want them to do is talk. Stop with the insults and talk.

Guys, like I told the chatters tonight I'm not 60 minutes or Nancy Grace but I do try to get to the truth. Usually the best way to do that is to be respectful.

Tricia - Thank you for the show. I wasn't able to listen, but I followed along via the comments. I do find it interesting that MR's call in was unexpected. I don't find MR as "out of it" as some people do. IMO, it was a very smart and manipulative move on his part. By calling in unexpectedly, he added an element of surprise both for you and Elaine, he threw the expected format of the show, and eliminated the possibility of planning for his participation. I think he can be a very smart cookie.

Thanks again for the show.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

It's why I said it.

Yes I know.

 

[scorekeeper]

Tricia - Thank you for the show. I wasn't able to listen, but I followed along via the comments. I do find it interesting that MR's call in was unexpected. I don't find MR as "out of it" as some people do. IMO, it was a very smart and manipulative move on his part. By calling in unexpectedly, he added an element of surprise both for you and Elaine, he threw the expected format of the show, and eliminated the possibility of planning for his participation. I think he can be a very smart cookie.

Thanks again for the show.

But Tricia was prepared!!!

I think that he thinks he is a smart cookie....

 

[dlc]

He has answered every question posed to him that I have heard and that you have heard.



You state that there are many questions he has not answered, yet when you hear him in a carte blanche interview, he answers ALL questions. Interesting. That he deviates slightly sometimes is perfectly reasonable. As a matter of fact, it would be more suspicious if his story was verbatim every time.




You've heard that he's fought efforts, yet you have no proof other than what you've heard. He's given comprehensive interviews to police, to Dr. Springer, to professional reporters, and now to Tricia. I too would have refused a polygraph for Dr. Springer considering my nerves would have been shot after being accosted for hours.



I'm the one spinning, yet you and others are taking everything he says and does and making it fit your preconceived narrative. Right. Let's be intellectually honest here.




He was the last known person to see Dylan alive. Can you think of any other cases where a child went missing where one of his parents was the last known person to see their child alive yet had nothing to do with it? Especially considering there are zero known facts or evidence to lead you - or police evidently - to suspect him or at the very least call him a person of interest.



Well thank God police and reasonable folks wait for facts and evidence.



In that case, perhaps you should reconsider your support, considering none of those things seem to matter to MR either. He isn't the one slandering his ex - or condoning it - every chance he gets on social media and elsewhere. That he might lash out a little when he gets the chance to do it face to face is perfectly acceptable, IMO, considering what they say and do on a virtual daily basis.

I will not respond in kind. Saying that only "reasonable" people hold a particular opinion, mysteriously divining what I may or may not have heard or read, denying that ER is attacked viciously from numerous quarters, and throwing in a "Dr. Springer," (?) is not the intellectual honesty that I am accustomed to. Once again, I guess the two of us will agree to disagree.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I don't see a lot of interpretations other than he was slamming Elaine and accusing her of not really searching for Dylan. What other interpretation is there?



Approx 82.16
"The difference between I-I think that me and my ex-wife is that I don't search because I'm looking for recognition, an' I search because it's the right thing to do and it's what I want to be a part of in bringing Dylan home. So, you know, just because I don't go out and-and-and-and follow the cameras, doesn't mean I'm not out searching."

I think that Mark's saying that because of the negative publicity that he's received, it's better for him to search without the cameras following his every move and people commenting on it.

That's a different interpretation.