Supreme Court Nominee #2

[Inthedetails]

Another Yale classmate came forward tonight on CNN at 9:00 to dispute Kavanaugh's testimony Thursday. Liz Swisher said Kavanaugh was a "sloppy drunk" at Yale into drinking parties etc. She said he clearly perjured himself and is now disqualified for the court.

In addition to Yale classmate Swisher, there is another saying Kavanaugh has been lying:

"Lynne Brookes, who the newspaper said 'was a college roommate of one of the two women now accusing Kavanaugh of misconduct,' said his remarks in the Fox interview did not describe the classmate she knew.

'He’s trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy,' said Brookes, a Republican, who remembered an encounter with an inebriated Kavanaugh. 'You can’t lie your way onto the Supreme Court, and with that statement out, he’s gone too far. It’s about the integrity of that institution.'”

Drinking, doubts and decisions

 

[Fairy1]

Yes, people seem to confused blacking out and passing out. Passing out is when a person loses consciousness. Blacking out is when a person appears conscious but later on has not recollection of what he/she did while drunk.

True. One would not be capable of committing a sexual assault if passed out, but would be capable of forgetting committing a sexual assault if blacked out.

 

[Jax49]

Yearbook lies may end up giving Kavanaugh something to cry about

Kavanaugh was under oath when he swore to the friendly innocence of the Renate references (and to several other highly implausible interpretations of yearbook slang that seemed to relate to binge drinking and sex).

And if the extended FBI investigation into his background that the Senate agreed to Friday looks into this and establishes with other former schoolmates that he was lying, we are entitled, almost obligated to infer that his recollections and tearful protestations about many other aspects of his behavior in high school have been less than candid.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

The reason Kavanaugh was so weepy and emotional during the hearings is because he's angry at being called out for his behavior and he feels sorry for himself, imo. He believes he shouldn't be called out for it, because that just gets in the way of what he wants.

I could be wrong, obviously. Wouldn't be the first or the last time.

Just my opinion.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

we must not forget that one of the biggest components of alcoholism is denial . He displayed such yesterday on several occasions

in fact several of his most un supreme court like outbursts was when confronted about his problems with alcohol

That's an excellent point, @CARIIS. Thank you. Alcoholism is indeed a cunning and baffling disease, and it does influence brain function.

I hadn't even really thought about how the denial might impact his behavior until just now. The denial becomes like a "fight or flight" type of survival instinct.

MOO

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

In addition to Yale classmate Swisher, there is another saying Kavanaugh has been lying:

"Lynne Brookes, who the newspaper said 'was a college roommate of one of the two women now accusing Kavanaugh of misconduct,' said his remarks in the Fox interview did not describe the classmate she knew.

'He’s trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy,' said Brookes, a Republican, who remembered an encounter with an inebriated Kavanaugh. 'You can’t lie your way onto the Supreme Court, and with that statement out, he’s gone too far. It’s about the integrity of that institution.'”

Drinking, doubts and decisions

Believable.

 

[CARIIS]

Lawrence is gonna have two yale folks on and discuss kav minimization and denial regarding his drinking problems

 

[Cubby]

The reason Kavanaugh was so weepy and emotional during the hearings is because he's angry at being called out for his behavior and he's feeling sorry for himself, imo. He believes he shouldn't be called out for it, because that just gets in the way of what he wants.

I could be wrong, obviously. Wouldn't be the first or the last time.

Just my opinion.

Yes, exactly! His answers with regards to his drinking, especially the question about weekday drinking was concerning. Having a calendar from that long ago concerning. Who saves calendars that are decades old unless preparing for the possibility of needing an alibi sometime in the future?

I think if he had admitted to some poor choices during his teenage years, owned them and showed some genuine remorse, he would might be far more favorable. IF he had decided to do that yesterday.

I'm interested in seeing how Strongs responses go. If he is truly in recovery, he needs to be honest with what he recalls of that time period.

 

[CARIIS]

That's an excellent point, @CARIIS. Thank you. Alcoholism is indeed a cunning and baffling disease, and it does influence brain function.

I hadn't even really thought about how the denial might impact his behavior until just now. The denial becomes like a "fight or flight" type of survival instinct.

MOO

and hey it has to be hard to have to face the fact that he is an alcholic on global tv

would not be surprised if he annonces next tues he will be going to rehab

he is gonna here about his problem from family friends etc etc

its open now

can anyone explain what the comment from his kid about the woman was about

 

[mickey2942]

^^^gotta say, I completely agree. I may be on the fence about the entire situation, but the truth is, that Kavanaugh didn't come off as sympathetic, true, he probably hates his accuser, but I am less inclined to believe that he never drank, or fooled around as a young man.

He should have more than likely coped to partying and drinking, then apologized to his accuser, stating his interpretation of events is completely separate, that he thought she was having fun, and they were just horsing around. That if she had verbalized clearly, "No, leave me alone.". He would have in a heartbeat. But, he denies the entire situation. So, okay. Go with it, see how it plays out.

 

[CARIIS]

several more friends have just talked to other media outlets about how gross he was when drunk


that in itself is perjury while under oath

there is proof he perjured himself regarding the emails stolen a while back

they produced two emails from him talking about spying on dems and having a mole in the dem party

the idiot put the subject line as : SPYING

in the other email the word mole was his

that is perjury under oath again

the dude should probably be worrying about his current paycheck

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

can anyone explain what the comment from his kid about the woman was about

rsff

Kavanaugh Breaks Down in Tears Describing Daughter's Prayer for His Sexual Assault Accuser

Kavanaugh, 53, said in his opening testimony at the public hearing, “I intend no ill will to Dr. Ford and her family. The other night, Ashley and my daughter Liza said their prayers. And little Liza, all of 10 years old —”

Kavanaugh paused as his voice broke and he visibly choked up. Then he continued, “— said to Ashley, ‘We should pray for the woman.’ That’s a lot of wisdom from a 10 year old. We mean no ill will.”

He wiped his nose, shook his head and took a deep breath to regain composure.

Kavanaugh’s wife Ashley sat behind him during his testimony. “When I accepted the president’s nomination, Ashley and I knew this process would be challenging,” he said. “We never expected it would devolve into this. Explaining this to our daughters has been about the worst experience of our lives.”

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[neesaki]

Yes, legal age for drinking in Maryland was 21 when he was 18.

Wasn’t some of this when he was 15 years old? Did I get that wrong? If not, way before legal drinking age. If so kind of disturbing how much drinking. IMO

 

[CARIIS]

amazing what a couple of hours can do

on national tv the two yale friends said they are happy to talk to the fbi under the penalty of perjury

one of them knows who the folks in the new yorker piece by name and will tell the fbi

i don't know if he himself pulls out now maybe he can hold on to his current job??

 

[Jax49]

Classmate: Kavanaugh drank heavily - CNN Video

 

[neesaki]

I can’t watch a video on iPad with low signal. Can anyone summarize it please? TIA

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Apologies if this was already posted and I missed it.

A Tumultuous 24 Hours: How Jeff Flake Delayed a Vote on Kavanaugh

WASHINGTON — Surrounded by his colleagues in a cramped corridor behind the Senate Judiciary Committee, Senator Jeff Flake was in agony, getting pounded on all sides.

He had already released a statement that he would vote “yes” in the committee and advance Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court to the full Senate floor. But two angry and tearful women had confronted him soon afterward in a Senate elevator, accusing him of telling girls that “assault doesn’t matter.”

Now, as the committee was on the verge of approving the nomination, Mr. Flake, Republican of Arizona, was having second thoughts, according to a half-dozen lawmakers and Senate staff aides who witnessed the scene. Why not accept Democratic demands for a one-week delay in the confirmation vote, he asked his fellow senators, and reopen an F.B.I. background investigation into sexual misconduct accusations against Judge Kavanaugh?

Republicans crowded around him, alarmed. Senators Thom Tillis of North Carolina and John Cornyn of Texas implored him not to waver. This is just a delaying tactic, they said, and would only lead to more allegations that they believed to be false, hurting the judge’s family.

Democrats were on the other side, coaxing him to put off the vote. Senator Chris Coons, Democrat of Delaware, a longtime friend, broke in: This is a mess, he said, and to lift the cloud over Judge Kavanaugh, an investigation was necessary.

But what could really be done in a week? There was a scramble to call Christopher Wray, the F.B.I. director, who could not be reached. The second choice was Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general.
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Minutes later, Mr. Flake, a pained expression on his face, returned to the committee room and made the announcement ensuring that the F.B.I. investigation would go forward — and once again upending Washington.



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[EuTuCroquet?]

Opinion | Would You Hire Kavanaugh?

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

How the F.B.I. Will Investigate the Kavanaugh Accusations

WASHINGTON — The renewed F.B.I. background check of Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh over allegations of sexual assault will be relatively limited, relying on voluntary interviews and document production.

Former prosecutors said that because it is not a criminal investigation, F.B.I. agents will not be able to get search warrants or grand jury subpoenas compelling witnesses to testify or hand over documents. Witnesses and others can refuse to cooperate, though talking to an F.B.I. agent is often a powerful motivator to tell the truth.​

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

‘I was demanding a connection’: Ana Maria Archila reflects on confronting Jeff Flake over Kavanaugh nomination

Ana Maria Archila had never told her father that she was sexually abused as a child.

But after she confronted a U.S. senator about President Trump's Supreme Court nominee and the video started going viral, she thought it was time to share her story.

“I always carried the fear that my parents would feel that they had failed in taking care of me if I told them,” Archila said Friday night in a phone interview with The Washington Post.

“Today I texted my father and I said, ‘You’re going to hear something that we haven’t talked about, and I want you to know that I’m okay,’ ” she said.

The encounter on Friday morning between Archila, a second woman and Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) has already become an iconic moment in the debate over Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court.

With a CNN camera behind them broadcasting live, Archila and Maria Gallagher blocked the doors of an elevator for about five minutes in an effort to confront Flake about his just-announced support for Kavanaugh, who is facing several allegations of sexual misconduct.​