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If this was meant towards my post, I posted Trump’s comment because there was a prior question as to when BK would be sworn in. Trump’s comment included that information.
 
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The SC hasn't been "neutral" for a while now. Why do you think all this is happening?

It is different. Now it is about (at its core) all everything is about (kinda understandable - I would not want to be the penn!) every millisecond is about prison avoidance

it is that simple guys

white collar stuff
 
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...2. Collins knows that one of the Federalist Society's STATED criteria for potential nominees to be put on that list is nominees' commitment to overturn Roe v Wade. This also is a known given, and one trump has confirmed & boasted about.

3. For Collins to state she doesn't believe K will vote to overturn Roe v Wade makes her either incredibly naive and gullible, OR, disengenous at best, a liar at worst.

It's one thing if Collins believes Roe v Wade should be overturned. If she believes that, she should say so, and not mistate where K stands.

If she doesn't believe Roe v Wade should be overturned, and if she believes K's commitment to nuking it is disqualifying, she should vote against K.

If she doesn't believe Roe v Wade should be overturned, but doesn't think his certain vote against it is disqualifying, this too she should say straightforwardly...

With all due respect, Senator Collins spoke to issues other than Roe v. Wade. There are many cases beyond Roe v. Wade that will be heard by the Supreme Court of the United States. Roe v. Wade isn't a deal-breaker for me, and it's unfortunate that so much emphasis has been placed on this single issue.
 
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I actually think the other 8 justices will get along fine with Justice Kavanaugh and he with them.
 
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They sounded like caged animals. Imo

The all-male senate judiciary committee? Agreed. Too much hard work for wimmin folk to even consider doing, if you believe Grassley.

Cowards outsourced the grunt work to a woman. Couldn’t face Kavanaugh’s accusers like real men.

Then they bloviated for days with hypocritical, platitudinous lies about how they “believed” Dr Blasey Ford and the other accusers, while disregarding the mountains of corroborating evidence against lying, openly partisan Kavanaugh.

All MOO, of course.
 
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You’re wrong. Civil rights battles are won one march, one step at a time.

They’re just getting started. This battle isn’t over. Women will be heard.

As a nation we are in deep doo doo
 
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The all-male senate judiciary committee? Agreed. Too much hard work for wimmin folk to even consider doing, if you believe Grassley.

Cowards outsourced the grunt work to a woman. Couldn’t face Kavanaugh’s accusers like real men.

Then the bloviated for days with platitudinous lies about how they “believed” Dr Blasey Ford and the other accusers, while disregarding the mountains of corroborating evidence against lying, openly partisan Kavanaugh.

All MOO, of course.

and many of us respect your opinion my friend!
 
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With all due respect, Senator Collins spoke to issues other than Roe v. Wade. There are many cases beyond Roe v. Wade that will be heard by the Supreme Court of the United States. Roe v. Wade isn't a deal-breaker for me, and it's unfortunate that so much emphasis has been placed on this single issue.

I so agree -- at this point it is ALL about not going to prison- he might be there ticket out
 
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With all due respect, Senator Collins spoke to issues other than Roe v. Wade. There are many cases beyond Roe v. Wade that will be heard by the Supreme Court of the United States. Roe v. Wade isn't a deal-breaker for me, and it's unfortunate that so much emphasis has been placed on this single issue.

Respectfully, it’s not just a single issue, BDE. Kavanaugh will move to strike down what he believes is double jeopardy for lawmakers and elected officials found to have broken the law, making them immune to prosecution.

ETA: I meant to reply to @Hope4More, too! I agree with BDE, and with the point Hope made in her post.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-gamble-court-case/

Judge Kavanaugh, if confirmed to the Supreme Court, could be a deciding vote on a case that has the potential to dramatically increase the power of the presidential pardon.​

TRUE

The reason Gamble v. United States is generating buzz from people other than constitutional law scholars is that the separate sovereigns exception also prevents President Trump from pardoning people for state crimes. Under current Supreme Court precedent, a presidential pardon of an individual does not prevent that individual from being prosecuted for the same or similar crimes under state law. “Under the dual sovereignty doctrine,” Adam J. Adler wrote in the Yale Law Review, “as long as two offenses are defined by different jurisdictions, they cannot constitute the ‘same offense.’”

The Congressional Research Service issued an August 2018 report on the potential ramifications of the case, and this report included a discussion of its possible effect on the presidential pardon power:

The Gamble case may nevertheless have significant collateral legal effects … A win for Gamble could also indirectly strengthen the President’s pardon power, by precluding a state from prosecuting an already-pardoned defendant who has gone to trial on an overlapping offense.

What Does This Have to Do with Brett Kavanaugh?
Some pundits have speculated that the reason why certain politicians seem to be in a rush to seat Judge Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court is that is that he has a notably strong viewof presidential powers and therefore would be a vote in favor of Gamble and for an expansion of presidential pardon powers — and the Supreme Court announced they would be hearing this case the day after Justice Kennedy’s retirement. This temporal proximity has prompted some commenters to opine that the rush might be motivated by a desire to limit the president’s legal liability in the Russia probe and other investigations.

(Much more at link.)​
 
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Senate votes to confirm Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court

The 50-48 vote comes exactly one month before Election Day.

WASHINGTON — The Senate on Saturday afternoon narrowly confirmed Brett Kavanaugh as a Supreme Court justice, 50-48.

As the roll call began, a series of protesters in the gallery began yelling "I do not consent!" and "shame on you" as Vice President Mike Pence — who was presiding over the session — called for order. Several women could be heard quietly sobbing and sniffling. Some dabbed tears.

The interruptions capped off two weeks of protest against the nomination that swept Capitol Hill ahead of the final vote, exactly a month before Election Day...
 
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Collins knows for a fact that the Federalist Society handpicked every single person on trump's short list of SC nominees. She knows that because it is an undisputed fact, and one openly boasted about.

2. Collins knows that one of the Federalist Society's STATED criteria for potential nominees to be put on that list is nominees' commitment to overturn Roe v Wade. This also is a known given, and one trump has confirmed & boasted about.

It's her intellectual dishonesty that I find most contemptible.

rsff

Agreed. She has a whole lot of work to do to live up to the so-called standards she’s setting up for herself. Time will tell, IMO. I’m not confident — at all — that her partisan hypocrisy should be believed.

All moo, natch.
 
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Moments ago: Kavanaugh on his way from home in Chevy Chase, MD to be sworn in as Justice of SCOTUS.
 
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With all due respect, Senator Collins spoke to issues other than Roe v. Wade. There are many cases beyond Roe v. Wade that will be heard by the Supreme Court of the United States. Roe v. Wade isn't a deal-breaker for me, and it's unfortunate that so much emphasis has been placed on this single issue.

I agree. I have heard Roe vs. Wade more than anything on the Senate floor by the democrats.

It has made it seem like that is what ALl women care about when truthfully each individual woman have many diverse things they think are most important to them based on their own personal life.

Often it's based on their
own individual life instead of collectively as 'group think' of women in total.

Jmo
 
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With all due respect, Senator Collins spoke to issues other than Roe v. Wade. There are many cases beyond Roe v. Wade that will be heard by the Supreme Court of the United States. Roe v. Wade isn't a deal-breaker for me, and it's unfortunate that so much emphasis has been placed on this single issue.

As I've said here, more than once, I don't think Roe v Wade is the most significant loss we are facing, nor do I think it should have been, for any Senator, a deal breaker (or a deal maker either).

What I expressed was my contempt for Senator Collins stating she believes K doesn't intend to overturn Roe v Wade. She knows better than that. So yes, shame on her.
 
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