Supreme Court Nominee #3

[Hope4More]

Whatever happens next, what is most depressing and awful is that at least 40% of my fellow Americans will believe that a grave injustice was done, further dividing us and destabilizating the only political system we have.

Worse of all, it didn't have to be this way. If literally any other of those on the SC shortlist had been nominated, that choice would already be seated on the SC. That is a fact. None of this was necessary. Only one person made this choice, against the will of his own party.

 

[Boodles]

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I highly doubt the US as a whole will like this appointment over time - but you voted in the senators that will now vote on this appointment. I can only hope the results will not affect my country in the long run.

Bbm. Oh, but they will. That’s what all this rigamarole is about!

 

[MamaTiger]

My guess is that, if Kavanaugh gets elected to the Supreme Court, an almost immediate process will get underway to impeach him.

He perjured himself repeatedly in the confirmation committee hearings — a felony.

No snarkiness here at all: Very serious question. Do you have actual links to articles that pinpoint actual lies (not perceived lies).
I know that there is something with his Yale statement (I have yet to try and verify this). However, I asked this of a friend of mine as well and she gave said:
1. Yale statement - need to research
2. Refute statement - this one I say is splitting hairs. Her friend says she doesn't remember ever seeing him, but believes Dr. Ford. He said she refuted the statement. Which I would have agreed with his statement... So, I think it depends on your viewpoint or how you take the statement.
Everything I have read - and I've been busy with life, so I am sure there are tons of articles and statements that I haven't read and I did not get to see his entire interview - says that what he says is "disputed" and it "may" of this, "might" of that.
I am having a hard time finding anything that says,
"He said this and it was an out and out lie and this is why."
From what I have read, many of the things he said that are being disputed can be a differing view points, so proof of a lie would be hard, IMO.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Jax49]

Opinion | All of Brett Kavanaugh’s lies, distortions and absurdities

 

[Lillymac]

Collins needs to be voted out. Flake's seat will go to Democrat in November.

Flake is not running for reelection.

 

[MamaTiger]

Opinion | All of Brett Kavanaugh’s lies, distortions and absurdities

Thank you, I will go read and then research (when I find the time).

 

[Jax49]

Thank you, I will go read and then research (when I find the time).

There are lots of articles, many pushing one side or the other. moo
Here's one more.

All The Lies Brett Kavanaugh Told | HuffPost

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

No snarkiness here at all: Very serious question. Do you have actual links to articles that pinpoint actual lies (not perceived lies).
I know that there is something with his Yale statement (I have yet to try and verify this). However, I asked this of a friend of mine as well and she gave said:
1. Yale statement - need to research
2. Refute statement - this one I say is splitting hairs. Her friend says she doesn't remember ever seeing him, but believes Dr. Ford. He said she refuted the statement. Which I would have agreed with his statement... So, I think it depends on your viewpoint or how you take the statement.
Everything I have read - and I've been busy with life, so I am sure there are tons of articles and statements that I haven't read and I did not get to see his entire interview - says that what he says is "disputed" and it "may" of this, "might" of that.
I am having a hard time finding anything that says,
"He said this and it was an out and out lie and this is why."
From what I have read, many of the things he said that are being disputed can be a differing view points, so proof of a lie would be hard, IMO.
Thanks in advance.

I said it was "my guess," meaning it's my opinion. I don't need to provide a source for an opinion, but I have absolutely no problem doing so.

His misstatements of fact are all over the place, corroborated by testimony, dates, times, places and Kavanaugh's own testimony (or avoidance of answering directly, which also can be perjury).

(edit) I see @Jax49 has posted some primer-type links discussing possible perjury, so I'll share other related stuff like source documents, sworn statements, timelines, transcripts, legal analysis, etc.

And — this is important — for Kavanaugh and others to say someone refuted something as opposed to saying someone had no knowledge of something of is not splitting hairs.

Kavanaugh made a misrepresentation of facts.

As a lawyer, he knows this.

Refute = prove untrue.

No knowledge = unknown.



Sources to ponder. Obviously, it isn't comprehensive.

• definition of perjury

• "bulleted" timeline of events

• analysis — Kavanaugh's testimony

• legal arguments for perjury

• legal arguments against perjury

• Rachel Mitchell's memo about her interpretations of the hearing and how it might apply to "criminal court" standards (which is a higher burden of proof than committee hearings)

• source document: Kavanaugh's 1982 calendar pages

• source document: Cory Booker released these previously confidential documents and email exchanges in relation to the Kavanaugh hearings

• source document: Julie Swetnick's sworn statement

• source document: Christine Blasey Ford polygraph results and related documentation

• source document: Feinstein statement on Blasey Ford confidentiality

• source document: sworn statements from Russell Ford, Keith Koegler, Adela Gildo-Mazzon and Rebecca White

• source document: Kavanaugh's "we're loud, obnoxious drunks with prolific pukers among us" letter (linking to both pages): page 1, page 2

• source document: screen-cap of anonymous sworn statement sharing history, background, experiences of Swetnick and Blasey Ford

• source document: Grassley letter about alleged mishandling of the case by the majority Senate judiciary committee

• A decent timeline on the challenge of getting testimony before the committee

• Sussing out semantics — why the accusers' claims haven't been "refuted," as some have claimed (this is an Associated Press piece; the link I found was reprinted in the NY Times)

• An analysis piece by Salon (insight into how male/female perspective might vary and why — not "hard news" by any stretch, but adds a little context)

• Kavanaugh's contradictory statements in interviews and emails become part of the official record

• A roundup of refuted (misleading or false) Kavanaugh statements

• "The partisan battle Kavanaugh now regrets"

• misleading the public in any lie, even personal or small lies, even in civil cases, should be an impeachable offense, Kavanaugh has said

ETA
• Kavanaugh hearing — transcript

ETA 2
• Kavanaugh's Georgetown Prep yearbook is now online

 

[BUF]

There is only 'one' copy of this FBI report that all the senators are reading? Isn't this something like a thousand pages?

CNN

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

DH and I were "up north" (Mackinac Island) for a few days with MSNBC the only cable news available. We watched Kate Snow's interview with Julie Swetnick. Neither of us found her the least bit credible. Hopefully, her 15 minutes in the limelight are over, as should be her attorney's (Michael Avenatti).

 

[Hope4More]

From the Georgetown Prep yearbook:

"Squi," Christopher Garrett, Dr. Ford's BF in summer 1982, what he listed:

"Spread Eagle Club; I survived the 4th of July Club; Down the Hatch; Devil's Triangle; Think you have enough empties?; FFFFF; Red Sox v Orioles, who won anyway? ; Renate Alumni Club; 100 kegs or bust; Beach Week: the destructors; mouthwash; just get me home and I'll be alright."

 

[MamaTiger]

There are lots of articles, many pushing one side or the other. moo
Here's one more.

All The Lies Brett Kavanaugh Told | HuffPost

I know there are a lot and I think I read the HuffPost and it was one of the "may" and "might" articles... I will check though. I am mathematical and logical. I don't do well with the "mays" and "might haves".
Thanks again.

 

[Hope4More]

Georgetown Prep Yearbook,

Timothy Gaudette (also interviewed by FBI; skis party was at his house on July 1, 1982).

"Alcoholics Unaminous, member; Renate Alumni; O's v Red Sox, who won?; 5/22/82 good party; 100 keg club; the Quay penthouse (Qualudes)."

Quote: " There was a place called heaven, but all the same they drank enormous amounts of alcohol." A. Huxley

 

[Jax49]

Don't Confirm Brett Kavanaugh, Says Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens | HuffPost

Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens said Thursday that he does not support the confirmation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh.

Kavanaugh “had the qualifications” to be a Supreme Court justice but his behavior at a hearing last week ― where he defended himself against allegations of sexual assault by blaming Democrats seeking “revenge on behalf of the Clintons” ― was inappropriate and disqualifying, Stevens said.

 

[Hope4More]

Yearbook: Patrick Smythe ("PJ"), interviewed by FBI.

"Devil's Triangle; Gtown Louisville, who won anyway."

 

[BUF]

Don't Confirm Brett Kavanaugh, Says Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens | HuffPost

Thanks for posting this Jax. Words of wisdom that all should take to heart from someone who was a justice on the Supreme Court for over 34 years.

 

[mickey2942]

I still go back and forth about judging people for activities in high school. But Kavanaugh has denied the allegations.

Dr. Ford? If the FBI investigation did not verify this, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. But, it can't be corroborated.

 

[Rocco]

Heitkamp, a Democrat from red state North Dakota, ended the suspense over her choice in the confirmation of Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh on Thursday when she announced she was voting "no."

Heitkamp’s GOP opponent already calling out her Kavanaugh opposition

ETA: I'm a Republican from ND and here's what I have to say to Heidi Heitkamp---->Good for you. I don't want him appointed either. We can do better.

Kevin Cramer must have read my post (sure he did) ---he deleted his tweet.

 

[Hope4More]

I still go back and forth about judging people for activities in high school. But Kavanaugh has denied the allegations.

Dr. Ford? If the FBI investigation did not verify this, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. But, it can't be corroborated.

You can't find something you refuse to look for.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

I mean, how much more evidence does it have to take for Kavanaugh to know he really isn't wanted, despite the rampant partisan politicking?

100,000 U.S. Christian Churches Demand Withdrawal of Kavanaugh's Supreme Court Nomination