Switzerland - 4 Family Members Jump to Their Deaths from Balcony, Montreux, 24 March 2022

[annpats]

I keep thinking about the ladder that was referenced in one of the articles. That probably indicates that there were some willing participants. Otherwise, it would have been in the way. MOO

Well, the balcony is quite big, but would you need a step-ladder to get over the wall? I don't think so.

The photo below shows an adult could have thrown themselves off without climbing up a ladder.

So either the ladder was for the 8 year old girl, or they all wanted to climb up and jump off properly.

Just so sad and so horrid that they thought this was better than living.

Surely the Swiss authorities weren't hounding them that much?

Couldn't they have moved back to France?

Then again, I think rational thinking had long disappeared.....

MOO.

 

[bombardier]

Well, the balcony is quite big, but would you need a step-ladder to get over the wall? I don't think so.

The photo below shows an adult could have thrown themselves off without climbing up a ladder.

So either the ladder was for the 8 year old girl, or they all wanted to climb up and jump off properly.

Just so sad and so horrid that they thought this was better than living.

Surely the Swiss authorities weren't hounding them that much?

Couldn't they have moved back to France?

Then again, I think rational thinking had long disappeared.....

MOO.

Wonder if one of the adults involved was not physically well/physically fit and couldn't clamber or swing their body over, so used the step ladder to make it easy.

 

[annpats]

Wonder if one of the adults involved was not physically well/physically fit and couldn't clamber or swing their body over, so used the step ladder to make it easy.

Yes, absolutely. Could well be the case.

I'm just glad they didn't land on anyone walking beneath. This whole thing is horrible.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

IMO if they'd bought some rural property and kept busy chopping wood and carrying water, they'd have stayed sane. Cooping themselves up for ?how long? in a top floor apartment, never going outside, would drive a lot of people to suicide.

JMO

Very true!

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Well, the balcony is quite big, but would you need a step-ladder to get over the wall? I don't think so.

The photo below shows an adult could have thrown themselves off without climbing up a ladder.

So either the ladder was for the 8 year old girl, or they all wanted to climb up and jump off properly.

Just so sad and so horrid that they thought this was better than living.

Surely the Swiss authorities weren't hounding them that much?

Couldn't they have moved back to France?

Then again, I think rational thinking had long disappeared.....

MOO.

Wow! That railing seems very low. Definitely doesn't require a ladder.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Any updates on the son? As an aside, since it doesn't take much at all these days to be labeled a conspiracy theorist, have LE given any details on the specifics of the conspiracies with which they were concerned? In many circles, the extreme stockpiling of the food and supplies alone might be enough to get them deemed "conspiracy theorists." MOO AMHOO

 

[moonriverfarm]

Wait - the first person jumped and nobody on the ground called 911? then the others jumped one at a time - over 5 minutes?????

 

[kadman]

Odd things like this happen with certain families. Although not ending in loss of life, the Tromp family case here in Australia comes to mind. https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/r...w/news-story/459be05ad66da097415bf3e865ea9b4c

 

[annpats]

Wait - the first person jumped and nobody on the ground called 911? then the others jumped one at a time - over 5 minutes?????

Well, it was Switzerland. They are strangely calm and introverted people. They don't panic or even get involved with other people's business.

MOO.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Wait - the first person jumped and nobody on the ground called 911? then the others jumped one at a time - over 5 minutes?????

That's what it read like to me. It's rather astounding in so many ways.

 

[bombardier]

I think it's possible that someone did see the body/bodies and called 911, but 911 either didn't get there in time, or they did, but couldn't do anything. It seems like a large apartment complex and was 7 stories tall... when you're just faced with a body on the ground, I think it would be different to parse out which unit they came from.

edit - just noticed in that article I linked, it says "Another resident, who lives on the first floor of the apartment building, described hearing a 'thud' at around 7am on Thursday morning. The neighbour, who wished to remain anonymous, said he went outside to investigate and saw five bodies." That leads me to believe that somehow all 5 landed over those 5 minutes without anyone noticing (seems like it's a commercial area, I guess I'd understand if no one is milling around before the businesses are open), because I'm sure if a pedestrian saw they'd scream or call out for help, and the neighbour would have left his unit to investigate their cries.

 

[rjfjet]

Any updates on the son? As an aside, since it doesn't take much at all these days to be labeled a conspiracy theorist, have LE given any details on the specifics of the conspiracies with which they were concerned? In many circles, the extreme stockpiling of the food and supplies alone might be enough to get them deemed "conspiracy theorists." MOO AMHOO

I wonder if they was some kind of gang type thing and maybe they never got caught so when the cops came they had a Plan 2 jump that’s just something I was thinking plus coming from another country nobody knew them

 

[Abraham Cab]

Any updates on the son? As an aside, since it doesn't take much at all these days to be labeled a conspiracy theorist, have LE given any details on the specifics of the conspiracies with which they were concerned? In many circles, the extreme stockpiling of the food and supplies alone might be enough to get them deemed "conspiracy theorists." MOO AMHOO

I disagree with the bolded.
Conspiracy theorists are specifically deluded in reality. They spread misinformation and fail to connect to the facts or acknowledge debunkings. Since Covid, there has been a mass push of easily debunked misinformation. It isnt a term that lost its meaning.

It isnt a term thrown around willy nilly, its tied to skewed thinking, and denial of facts and reality.

You may think it "dont take much" but thats just because since Covid, there is a mass organized campaign by grifters and bad actors to target those who are mentally capable of falling for these.

I fear that happened here.

 

[TGIRecovered]

Any updates on the son? As an aside, since it doesn't take much at all these days to be labeled a conspiracy theorist, have LE given any details on the specifics of the conspiracies with which they were concerned? In many circles, the extreme stockpiling of the food and supplies alone might be enough to get them deemed "conspiracy theorists." MOO AMHOO

Very good points, GoBuckeyes!

 

[Abraham Cab]

Very good points, GoBuckeyes!

I do agree they were likely not all there and believed in easily debunked conspiracies. Its a serious problem.

 

[TGIRecovered]

I do agree they were likely not all there and believed in easily debunked conspiracies. Its a serious problem.

I'm sorry, I must have miscommunicated. That was not my view at all. I agree with the post I quoted that the term "conspiracy theory" is thrown around willy-nilly.

 

[Abraham Cab]

I'm sorry, I must have miscommunicated. That was not my view at all. I agree with the post I quoted that the term "conspiracy theory" is thrown around willy-nilly.

Apologies for misunderstanding you.
But i disagree, conspiracy theorists are a very specific thing and dont believe it's thrown out too much.

I feel this family ate up easily debunked covid conspiracies like paste and in the end took their own lives.

We live in a time where grifters will use peoples prejudices' as rational to feed misinformation.

I feel for the family of this family. They needed help.

 

[ifindedout]

Case now being closed.

Conspiracy theorists led family to death in Switzerland

Swiss investigators say adults in the family were obsessed with conspiracy theories.

www.bbc.com

 

[Helechawagirl]

What odd descriptions. A survivalist techie and 2 survivalist doctors? But they don't live off the land or go off grid? Very different type of survivalists, imoo. It's beyond bizarre.

What’s bizarre is that “survivalists”killed themselves. Seems like they missed the point.