Tammi Peters Smith- Background

  • #141
BBM - how do we know she actually married Jack? I can't find any records.

Thanks,

Mel

Hi m.... I put the 2000 in the timeline because Jack said....


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/08/ng.01.html

J. SMITH: Well, I was in the music business for about 35 years. So I lived in Nashville for about that long. And then Tammi moved there and we met about 12 years ago and we`ve been together pretty much for the last 10.

CASAREZ: So what was the last time you were in Nashville?

J. SMITH: Last time I was in Nashville was probably about a year and a half ago? Two years ago maybe?

I guess he didn't say they were married. :innocent:

Tammi and Jack claim they just celebrated their 11th anniversary yesterday, Feb 14th (insert link to her and his facebook pages).
 
  • #142
Time, yes I posted that above, but she said the two things separately -- she wished a happy aniversary to her husband, and then mentioned they had been together for 11 years -- not exactly saying that it was their 11th marriage anniversary
 
  • #143
Time, yes I posted that above, but she said the two things separately -- she wished a happy aniversary to her husband, and then mentioned they had been together for 11 years -- not exactly saying that it was their 11th marriage anniversary

I'm guessing they're not married. 4 or 5 marriages will do that to a person ya know -- especially one as christian as tammi.

:banghead:
 
  • #144
Did anyone ever find anything on the adult adoption possibility? It would be possible to be adopted by Jack even while she was still married to another. She could even divorce and remarry, and it wouldn't affect the adoption.

In thinking about the adoption angle, there are several advantages for Tammi in that route. One is that Jack could never divorce her, a helluva deal for a potential borderline personality disordered person whose major theme in life is fear of abandonment and who has already been divorced by a whole series of men. I would think a person could even have a 'pretend' wedding for show and no one would even have to know that it was an adoption instead.

Were there any models for this that were celebrity status or well-publicized situations that she might have seen during this time? I can't help but wonder if the colon-therapy thing materialized for Tammi about the time Kenny Loggins divorce and remarriage to his colon-therapist was so well publicized and much was written during that time about the vulnerability of such a patient and about the easy sexualizing of the treatment. ?
 
  • #145
Time, yes I posted that above, but she said the two things separately -- she wished a happy aniversary to her husband, and then mentioned they had been together for 11 years -- not exactly saying that it was their 11th marriage anniversary

Yeah, and that was on her FB for the benefit of her *fans*. She has a huge huge history of spinning big fat yarns to make things look like something they are NOT. Just look at all the Jesus-talk and Satin-pointing, without the actions to back them up. Talk is cheap and easy; the true indicator is in the ACTIONS, and we all see that her actions do not match the 'talk'.


In Tammi's case, I'd have to say colon-therapist=spin-doctor.
 
  • #146
More like BS spinner.
 
  • #147
We don't know this, and if she did in 2000 it would have been illegal
I have been unable to find records but I am getting closer -- I think
It had to be somewhere between 2002 and 2007 I think, and I am going to guess it happened in TN and perhaps even on 2/14:waitasec:
She says 11 years on her FB for being together --hmmn I think she was still in LA then--I know one of her odd charges was in 1998 --just does not add up IMO

Try Madesto CA thats where jack was fr a few years around that time.
 
  • #148
I thought of Modesto too considering that's where Jack is from and most of his family seem to still be but I came up with nothing.
 
  • #149
lol to Dane and One Love's posts

:waitasec:Her second divorce was in 1996
She had some civil court issues in AZ in 1997 under maiden name
She had a misc charge with 3 male characters in LA 1998 under second marriage name
She had some other court proceedings and charges in LA between 1999-2001
under second marriage name -- forgery and stuff
She had family court proceedings in AZ in 1999-2002 with 3rd and 4th husbands
There are address histories in TN in the 4th marriage last name to include one address that is shared by JS' ex wife:waitasec:
Then there is a gap -- between 2002 and 2004 in records that I have found
The earliest I have seen TS' name as Smith is in 2004 when she opened her first clinic in TN :waitasec:
Then she looked for family members through the TX Katrina page saying she was KF's wife in 2005
In 2006 she finally connected with her natural children via FB
In 2006 she got in trouble in TN for practicing without a license
In 2007 she and JS moved to AZ
The earliest pics on FB she has of her 3 natural children are in 2007


Am I missing something?:waitasec:

Oh yeah this timeline for her five-year fight for joint custody of her children [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4813290"]Astrology-GABRIEL JOHNSON TimeStamped Media,Doc Links*NO DISCUSSIONS - Page 10 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

And of course, a wedding on Valentine's day somewhere to her 5th (AFAIK) hubby
 
  • #150
Krystlysea, thanks! Did Jack leave Nashville at some point and move back to CA between say 1998 and 2001? I thought he opened that business with his father in law in Nashville

Kamille, did you not post something about JS' divorce to RK? do you know that year?

Hmmn
I wish whomever posted that JS and TS met and JS's party would post some more on the internet somewhere lol
 
  • #151
Did anyone ever find anything on the adult adoption possibility? It would be possible to be adopted by Jack even while she was still married to another. She could even divorce and remarry, and it wouldn't affect the adoption.

In thinking about the adoption angle, there are several advantages for Tammi in that route. One is that Jack could never divorce her, a helluva deal for a potential borderline personality disordered person whose major theme in life is fear of abandonment and who has already been divorced by a whole series of men. I would think a person could even have a 'pretend' wedding for show and no one would even have to know that it was an adoption instead.

Were there any models for this that were celebrity status or well-publicized situations that she might have seen during this time? I can't help but wonder if the colon-therapy thing materialized for Tammi about the time Kenny Loggins divorce and remarriage to his colon-therapist was so well publicized and much was written during that time about the vulnerability of such a patient and about the easy sexualizing of the treatment. ?

I hadn't considered this possibility, but it might explain why TS was looking at this route regarding adopting EJ (according to reports I've read). And this route would benefit JS because as her "father", he would not be legally responsible for HER outstanding legal fines, any business debts she incurred, etc.

According to TN law that I was just looking up online, it is very easy for an adult adoption to go through there. In a nutshell, you don't even need attorneys - just consent from both parties, fill out a form, and bingo-bango you're family!

An interesting possibility....:yuck:
 
  • #152
Is it possible that Jack was receiving 'professional services' from Tammi during that several years they were 'seeing' each other but Tammi was married to 2 different other men? Maybe that is how they maintained a 'relationship' through that period? I think it worked that way for Kenny Loggins years back, with his colon therapist. And if the business that Tammi sold to her friend in Tenn. does 'housecalls', did Tammi also do housecalls when she owned it herself back then? Interesting business to have housecalls.



Your post got me wondering what about Kenny Loggins...what? :waitasec: It turned into a crazy internet search, but I finally found this article that had me in stitches. It's funny the additional things we learn when sleuthing a case.

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/columns/story.asp?id=196
 
  • #153
Please forgive me if this has been brought up before, but for those who have been looking up TPS background/criminal history, etc., have all spelling versions of her name also been checked? I noticed on Intellius that when she was TF, her name also shows up as ie at the end, not just i.

Is it possible that a clue may be missing if all versions of Tamera, Tamara, Tammy, Tammie, Tamila, Tamela, etc. haven't been checked? In fact, do we know what her actual birth certificate says?:twocents:
 
  • #154
Yes, I found a couple of family court records that involved two other men a week or so ago, and KF posted in news story comments that TS she had several marriages after she left him

TS has so many names between three states that I am convinced there are more records we have not found -- still have not found TS and JS marriage record -- but they could not have been married 10 years --not for another 2 years at least lol

There are years unaccounted for and hints of more court records -- perhaps under her Emmi name :waitasec:

ts and js married 2-14-04 in davidson county tn; ts and riddle married 11-30-98 in davidson county- listed on a web site for shelby county tn that has a jump to tn marriages- http://register.Shelby.Tn.US
 
  • #155
I know I am coming into this waaaaaaay late, but I have some input.

The Mormon Church basically had to outlaw polygamy within the church prior to Utah being added to the Union in 1896. This was a sticking point from getting the state accepted. Yes, there are fundamentalist groups such as the FLDS and other "Families" that still practice, but it is NOT accepted within the LDS organization.

NOW, as far as TS listing herself in an LDS Mom site.......

Many people advertise here in newspapers, google searches etc, that they are looking for a child to adopt, and UT is a good place to adopt FROM.

Most (not all of course) LDS kids are great kids, live a clean life, work hard etc. Sometimes, they stray and pregnancies happen, and a got lot of the time, they will go ahead with the pregnancy and give the baby up for adoption. The church even has it's own adoption agency.

In other words, a lot of people looking to adopt a newborn, will advertise here, specifically to the Morman groups, since they believe they will not have to worry about drug or alcohol use of the mother.

TS could have been putting her name out there, for people to research in a potential adoption. You know, make herself look good, and respectable to a young mormon mother looking for a good family for her baby. JMO






I can confirm for you right now that pologymy was wiped out in the LDS since the early 80's, Any members who are invested in comitting polgymy are invited to leave the church, atleast that's how it works in Australia.

Does anyone know for sure if she is even LDS?

The thing that i've noticed both from reading the links here, and observing her on camera, is that she seems stuck in her own world & exhibits behaviour that resembles, well... to be frank, a selfish mentally unstabled damaged woman.

Drama, is her energy source. Attention is what she wants & by gosh it's what she's getting alright. To her this is NOT about Gabriel, this is about HER. She WANTS what she wants.

She resembles the behavoir of a "gaurdian" that i once had, As we saw last night on the footage outside of the jail, she is literally giddy with the attention that she is recieving, she thinks she is above the law, she thinks she has power, she thinks she is a victim, that people OWE her, for HER mistakes, the worst thing about these kind of people is how stubborn they are, and how they cling hold of tiny TINY things to try & defend themselves.

She uses ploys such as religion, nursing, PTSD ? to cover up the long line of lies she's created to keep above water. The first like to her cafemom site reads like it was written by a teenager who just got told no.
 
  • #156
Does anyone remember Tammi mentioning Africa in one of her online postings? Reason I ask: CBS is doing a story tonight on adoption scams going on in Africa. I instantly remembered Tammi was suppose to have some kind of ties, there...
 
  • #157
Did anyone ever find anything on the adult adoption possibility? It would be possible to be adopted by Jack even while she was still married to another. She could even divorce and remarry, and it wouldn't affect the adoption.

In thinking about the adoption angle, there are several advantages for Tammi in that route. One is that Jack could never divorce her, a helluva deal for a potential borderline personality disordered person whose major theme in life is fear of abandonment and who has already been divorced by a whole series of men. I would think a person could even have a 'pretend' wedding for show and no one would even have to know that it was an adoption instead.
This thought is waaaaaay out there, IMO.

There is absolutely no way he adopted her, because then he could go to jail for living as husband and wife with his "adopted daughter"
 
  • #158
LDS? Really? Where's the most likely place a member of the LDS will try and successfully illegally adopt a child??? Utah! If they sent EJ East, then you better look West...that's what "H"s bio-dad said. I thought of Utah once, early on, but havn't revisited it. Anyone else?

http://www.cafemom.com/group/17892/members.php?type=new

Saving the best for last!
http://www.cafemom.com/group/54056/members.php?type=default

I was born and raised in Utah, and I'm currently keeping several contacts there updated on Gabriel's story.
 
  • #159
I know I am coming into this waaaaaaay late, but I have some input.

The Mormon Church basically had to outlaw polygamy within the church prior to Utah being added to the Union in 1896. This was a sticking point from getting the state accepted. Yes, there are fundamentalist groups such as the FLDS and other "Families" that still practice, but it is NOT accepted within the LDS organization.

NOW, as far as TS listing herself in an LDS Mom site.......

Many people advertise here in newspapers, google searches etc, that they are looking for a child to adopt, and UT is a good place to adopt FROM.

Most (not all of course) LDS kids are great kids, live a clean life, work hard etc. Sometimes, they stray and pregnancies happen, and a got lot of the time, they will go ahead with the pregnancy and give the baby up for adoption. The church even has it's own adoption agency.

In other words, a lot of people looking to adopt a newborn, will advertise here, specifically to the Morman groups, since they believe they will not have to worry about drug or alcohol use of the mother.

TS could have been putting her name out there, for people to research in a potential adoption. You know, make herself look good, and respectable to a young mormon mother looking for a good family for her baby. JMO

I don't think TPS is a member of the LDS church. I think she had joined the LDS Mom's sub group on that forum looking for babies.
 
  • #160
ts and js married 2-14-04 in davidson county tn; ts and riddle married 11-30-98 in davidson county- listed on a web site for shelby county tn that has a jump to tn marriages- http://register.Shelby.Tn.US

ThankyouThankyouThankyou!
I knew it had to be around 2004 -- that's when she first appeared under Smith! Also Jack's sister had posted yesterday on FB that she should have remembered that anniversary because she was there -- So I was first looking in CA, but TN makes more sense --
Woot!

So this is their 6th anniversary --they never have demonstrated an efficiency toward dates and times :|

She married Riddle in 1998 just after one of her strange charges in LA
hmmn

She did not address the Riddle situation until 2001/2002

Something is hinky regarding JS and TS being together for 11 years as she stated 2 days ago-- since 1999? while still married less than a year to Riddle?

:whistle:
 

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