Tempo Restaurant: What Happened There?

[MidgeC]

BTW-I think Tempo probably issued a statement because the media were hounding them with questions. Their statement that she wasn't in the bar was to cover their but. They don't want to lose their license or be a contributing factor in any law suits that are brought after poor Hannah is found.

I think it is pretty clear that Tempo is concerned about is reputation.

But would they take the risk of falsifying information in a criminal case? Such actions are probably prosecutable as obstruction of justice. Also the owner would put himself in a precarious position if he actively encourage an employee to lie to law enforcement.

 

[MidgeC]

Really? On what basis?

He's an academic with a rather distinguished CV. Is their problem with his reporting of current events, rather than of history?

I don't know on what basis. Just know that I have seen that posted on several local forums. I am not sure what to make of his report. At this point, I would like to see more journalist investigate the story.

 

[lateott]

I don't know guys... it seems so unlikely to me that JM would have taken her back to Tempo's just to try to smuggle out a couple of beers to drink somewhere in secret. It seems more likely to me that JM went back to Tempo's b/c it was where he'd just left and he had "friends" there. He wanted to take her back to a place where he'd look included (and perhaps still had a tab open?).

I don't get the sense HG was looking to score some more alcohol at that point. Seems more like something someone in high school would do, kwim? But she's in college, had been drinking at parties presumably, etc. She doesn't need to have some stranger go sneaking alcohol from a bar off the Downtown Mall. I just don't see that making any sense that she'd meet a guy and immediately go wait for him to smuggle out a drink.

I think she was inside. Briefly. But inside, and drank at least some of something. Tempo's is cya. (cTa I should say). MOO

Disagree based on following:

1) JM's "looking included" did not help him score earlier in the night, and his actions are not of insecurity, so doubt it would be a motivator for him
2) She was probably thirsty after the walk (whether she was ready for another beer is really difficult to know.)
3) Nobody remembers them both going in (albeit, nobody remembers JM going in the second time.)
4) HG is under age and would not get past the ID checker (She didn't get into McGrady's earlier either.)
4) The action of buying 2 drinks and paying immediately is a finite move, get and go. If he was going to try to shmooze/seduce/drink her into submission at a table, maybe he would have left the tab open, or ordered antoher round of drinks after 1:10.
5) The chances are much higher they would have been seen if hanging together at a table, and it sounds like he stood out like a sore thumb.
6) Both of them were active and fast moving leading up to that, so sitting at a discreet table (if such exists) would be a contrast.


IMO he went into Tempo because it was right there (closest bar on their trajectory?). He knew it inside and out. Not cheap, but convenient.

All this to me says it is more likely than not that he got drinks while she waited outside for 2 minutes, he brought them outside under his shirt, then they drank them on Water St. or in a parking garage or the alley back there since open drinks are not legal on the street. The ID girl only saw them when the came back around the corner and headed up Fifth St.

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter whether they were inside, except to Tempo and except for solving a part of the mystery of HG. The more significant events took place later.

However, it could mean there is some evidence back in that alley. I now remember reading a bloodhound got a hit in a "parking garage on Water St." so I will go back and look at the possible proximity. Water and 4th or Water and 5th stands out to me for some reason.

 

[lateott]

I am going to play devil's advocate here. The story about what JM did on the evening of 9/13 is mostly sourced to Coy Barefoot. There are a lot of people who think he is not a reliable source.

One thing to keep in mind: some think there was a concerted effort to paint Morgan Harrington as drunk or high who wandered around Charlottesville for hours trying to hook up with people before she met her ultimate demise. I tend to doubt that was the case.

Something is now bothering me about his narrative as well, since I've gone back to it a few times to check points he made.

I figured out what it is. It reads more like a novel than like a news report or report of facts. It is called a "timeline" but read this:

Molly says she quickly grew tired of the uncomfortable advances from LJ. “I just didn’t like how he was grabbing my friend and I.” Hoping to leave him behind, Molly and her group of friends left Blue Light for Tempo. “But he followed us,” she says, despite the fact that no one in their group had invited him to come along.

Maybe he is writing another book and some of the blanks are filled in as fiction/poetic license? Look at the parts that are bold but not quotes. They come from the author, not the witness, and they certainly build and leave an impression.

Hopefully LE has taken factual statements from these individuals.

 

[FindHG]

Coy Barefoot has a audio interview with Longo on his site as well as an unseen cam footage of her "long stride". He seems completely credible and fortunate to have the local creds to get this story. I don't think details that don't help the search will be known until he is tried, but finding more information about what happened after they left Tempo is essential. I hope locals on Rt 29, and other less secluded roads keep checking their security cam for that week.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/index.html#/v/3809043801001

 

[popsicle]

When I read Coy's article the other day, one of the things that stuck out in my mind was the way JM took Hannah away from Tempo. It didn't strike me as someone simply helping an intoxicated person walk imo.

She was slouched into him, leaning against him, like she was having difficulty standing up. He was talking to her, and his right arm was around her, not over her shoulder, not at the waist, but around her back and holding her right arm. He was holding her close, like he was almost holding her up. They walked away together up the street towards the Mall.”

If you are really trying to hold someone up you usually have your arm around their waist in case they fall. jmo

 

[MidgeC]

This is pure speculation on my part, but Longo did say "at least one" witness reported JM and HG together in Tempo.

What if this is not about Tempo or what JM did, but about the witness who told them that? Consider the ramifications if WG told them that.

Another thing that is interesting about the Coy Barefoot article are the pictures. Assuming JM didn't change his clothes, then the WG got his clothes (as well as his hair) completely wrong.

 

[Bill2013]

I think I read that HG's last text telling her friends she was lost was at 1:20am in the Wertland street area-- can somebody tell me if that is correct?

 

[Emaa]

The report from that evening by Barefoot shows a man who has no sense of others personal space. He wrestled a man and injured him that night without prior consent. As another poster said, that in itself is an assault. So is throwing two women over your shoulder without prior consent.

So is pulling off someone's shoes or touching another's leg.

 

[human]

I wonder if JM could spell those street names correctly to write the text

 

[otto]

I think I read that HG's last text telling her friends she was lost was at 1:20am in the Wertland street area-- can somebody tell me if that is correct?

Either she didn't send that text, or Jesse told her that she was at that location and she believed him, because today we know that she was with him when the text was sent.

"Search teams originally combed through other parts of Charlottesville on Monday, after they read a text Graham sent at 1:20 a.m., which stated that she was lost near 14th and Wertland Streets.

Now investigators don’t believe she was in that area at all.

“We don’t know whether it was auto correct on her phone or she just typed it in wrong, we have no idea,” Capt. Pleasants said.

He said police are now working with the Federal Bureau of Investigations to retrieve phone data that might show where that text was sent from.

“A lot of things happen when you send out messages and text, and we’re following that,” Pleasants said. Police said Graham was “fairly well intoxicated” at the time she was last seen."

http://fox4kc.com/2014/09/17/missin...o-walking-in-opposite-direction-of-apartment/

 

[otto]

I wonder if JM could spell those street names correctly to write the text

He was a taxi driver for three years. I'm sure he knows the streets.

 

[DavidC]

I'm not convinced Jesse was "on the prowl all night". Jesse changing directions by crossing the plaza could be because he saw a large crowd that he thought was heading to Tempo and he wasn't ready for the party to end.

New poster here, so apologies if my wording above wasn't clear.

I believe Hannah did go with him willingly, not knowing that JLM had been on the prowl all night and was very aggressively pursuing women (per his acquantances as quoted in the Coy Barefoot article.) She was lost and tired, probably grateful for a helpful lift from someone who worked at her college's hospital. He, on the other hand, was on the make. He changed directions just to follow her, but she wouldn't have had any way of knowing that or of suspecting any danger.

That said, there's no doubt that Hannah was inebriated according to all who crossed paths with her that night.

 

[CHERIE.T]

I'm not convinced Jesse was "on the prowl all night". Jesse changing directions by crossing the plaza could be because he saw a large crowd that he thought was heading to Tempo and he wasn't ready for the party to end.

I kinda/sorta disagree. He was imoo on the prowl when he was touchy feeling at the other bar/resturant when he was touching the Aa woman.

And for a 32 year old man to see an inembrated Hannah>>>>
and follow her >>>>
and buy her a drink (s) and>>>
more or less hold her up when they left...
he was on the prowl.

 

[Bill2013]

So the time is accurate. The cell phone did not make a mistake recording the time the text was sent- correc?. I guess the auto correct function refers to computerized correction of text. I don't see what/how the computer would correct to give that message. Perhaps she texted an hour earlier that she was lost(when she really may have been lost in the page/10 th street area) and never actually hit the send button. At 1:20 while on the mall at Tempos she did hit the send button and the "I am lost" text was then sent. Could that have happened?

 

[Phoebeb]

Confusing info about the last text made by Hannah.

1:06am Saturday, September 13: Graham makes contact with friends for the last time, sending a text message telling them she’s lost in the area of Wertland Street—a mile and a half from where she actually was. (Police initially said that message was sent at 1:20am.) In the next two minutes, two more security cameras capture images of her walking east on the Mall, half a mile from the Shell station.

from http://www.c-ville.com/hannah-graham-tracking-investigation-far/#.VCcJyBY09pZ

 

[otto]

Confusing info about the last text made by Hannah.

1:06am Saturday, September 13: Graham makes contact with friends for the last time, sending a text message telling them she’s lost in the area of Wertland Street—a mile and a half from where she actually was. (Police initially said that message was sent at 1:20am.) In the next two minutes, two more security cameras capture images of her walking east on the Mall, half a mile from the Shell station.

from http://www.c-ville.com/hannah-graham-tracking-investigation-far/#.VCcJyBY09pZ

Whether it was sent at 1:06AM or at 1:20AM, she was no where near Wertland and 14th.

 

[DavidC]

And the plot thickens......

This is pure speculation on my part, but Longo did say "at least one" witness reported JM and HG together in Tempo.

What if this is not about Tempo or what JM did, but about the witness who told them that? Consider the ramifications if WG told them that.

Another thing that is interesting about the Coy Barefoot article are the pictures. Assuming JM didn't change his clothes, then the WG got his clothes (as well as his hair) completely wrong.

 

[Bill2013]

Confusing info about the last text made by Hannah.

1:06am Saturday, September 13: Graham makes contact with friends for the last time, sending a text message telling them she’s lost in the area of Wertland Street—a mile and a half from where she actually was. (Police initially said that message was sent at 1:20am.) In the next two minutes, two more security cameras capture images of her walking east on the Mall, half a mile from the Shell station.

from http://www.c-ville.com/hannah-graham-tracking-investigation-far/#.VCcJyBY09pZ

I don't get it-- the computer records that the last text was sent at 1:06 and the cops say "no no" the message was really sent at 1:20. Is this what you are saying? I guess I don't understand something- not sure what it is

 

[Bill2013]

Confusing info about the last text made by Hannah.

1:06am Saturday, September 13: Graham makes contact with friends for the last time, sending a text message telling them she’s lost in the area of Wertland Street—a mile and a half from where she actually was. (Police initially said that message was sent at 1:20am.) In the next two minutes, two more security cameras capture images of her walking east on the Mall, half a mile from the Shell station.

from http://www.c-ville.com/hannah-graham-tracking-investigation-far/#.VCcJyBY09pZ

So now the real time that the last text was sent was 1:06 am Saturday morning. The cops initially said the last text was sent at 1:20 am-- is all this correct?