Terri Has Moved -- What is Next in the Pressure Cooker

[human]

Actually, if the landscaper lied about the murder for hire plot, that is slanderous. Whether it is actionable slander against the landscaper depends on Oregon law. Even if it is actionable, two very important questions remain: (1) Can the plaintiff afford to pay a lawyer, or will a lawyer take the case on contingency (based on his opinion of the law, as applied to the case), and (2) if the plaintiff wins, will the damages hoped for be sufficient to be worth both the plaintiff's and the lawyer's time, and does the landscaper have the money or assets to pay those damages?

People who say they believe the story, or opine that it is true, have not committed slander. People believe all sorts of things that are untrue or which cannot be proved. Therefore, in that context, beliefs are opinions.

For example: Some people believe in ghosts. My son was astonished that all of the kids he knows at his high school hold this belief. He does not believe in ghosts and thinks it is silly to do so. All the kids, including my son, have opinions about ghosts, since neither side can prove the truth of the matter they assert. This is very similar to the situation in which we find ourselves when we discuss Kyron's disappearance.

Another example: Some people believe that the moon landing by American astronauts was a hoax perpetrated by the government. They can believe it all they want to, but their beliefs are opinions they hold despite mounds of evidence to the contrary.

Exactly, if it's a lie.

Some people on WS keep saying that Terri can sue for slander (words) or libel (written).

My point is that she would have to prove that it's a lie.

Therein lies the difficulty, IMO.

 

[xin]

Exactly, if it's a lie.

Some people on WS keep saying that Terri can sue for slander (words) or libel (written).

My point is that she would have to prove that it's a lie.

Therein lies the difficulty, IMO.

The reason those lawsuits are extraordinarily rare (for the uber-rich) is that they are expensive to wage, and hard to win. You must prove intent to harm, and there must be real damages (as in $$). These suits are not frivolous, they are very expensive. None of this recovered fees stuff. These suits are RARE.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

This was the closest thread I found to a "Roseburg, OR" thread. Found this in the other forum - seems Roseberg has had its own share of troubled citizens lately......

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[Dr. Know?]

Wise, that is very sad that this little girl Sahara was murdered. I just read the forum and it appears it was the mom's boyfriend's 16 year old son who raped and murdered Sahara. Just sad.

 

[debs]

Wise, that is very sad that this little girl Sahara was murdered. I just read the forum and it appears it was the mom's boyfriend's 16 year old son who raped and murdered Sahara. Just sad.

How difficult it will be for the kids who went to school with this high schooler, plus Terri's son J. Two children caught up in something horrific.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Wise, that is very sad that this little girl Sahara was murdered. I just read the forum and it appears it was the mom's boyfriend's 16 year old son who raped and murdered Sahara. Just sad.

Plus in one of the articles they talked about some teacher that had just been busted with - or child . For such a small town (20,000) it sure does seem they have more than "the odds" of criminal citizens.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

The reason those lawsuits are extraordinarily rare (for the uber-rich) is that they are expensive to wage, and hard to win. You must prove intent to harm, and there must be real damages (as in $$). These suits are not frivolous, they are very expensive. None of this recovered fees stuff. These suits are RARE.

Didn't Attorney Lyn Wood win this type of lawsuit for Richard Jewell when he was called a suspect by the media and it turns out he was innocent?

I believe he also won a case for the Ramseys when a tabloid accused their young son of murdering Jon B.

From what I remember he took both of these cases on a contingency basis.

Richard rest in peace.

You were always a hero in my eyes.:star:

IMO

 

[Donjeta]

I won't belabor the point, but it was in the intent of the message to use the baby to cause psychological stress to Terri Horman by making videos and putting them into the media to show baby K happy and healthy without her mother there in order to force Terri to feel stress which would (hopefully) culminate in Terri confessing to whatever happened to Kyron.

I addressed it then and it should still be there for others to read for themselves. I remain appalled by the notion.

Just a personal preference but I would be more appalled if they published videos of the baby distressed, unhappy and unhealthy. It's not a bad idea to try and take good care of children, even if their mom doesn't approve.

 

[Atlanta PI]

Just a personal preference but I would be more appalled if they published videos of the baby distressed, unhappy and unhealthy. It's not a bad idea to try and take good care of children, even if their mom doesn't approve.

Agreed ITA!

 

[kappy50]

I really don't know where to post this...so I will start here as the thread I was looking for is closed...I DO hope in all of this, no matter what any of us think of Teri or Kaine for that matter,, that her parents are still able to visit with baby girl. As a grandparent, it would absolutley devestate me if I could not see my grandson. There is also another life involved in all this mess... I do hope they can, and I do hope they have....

 

[wondering1]

Dragging this thread up from p. 4 or so because I want to know where the heck is TH???? Afaik, we haven't heard anything about her whereabouts since a day or two after she moved to the 'berg. How come? The last thing I saw was an article saying that things were so quiet at her parents' home that she may be elsewhere. How is it possible that the media doesn't know where she is?

 

[orb4me]

The white truck has been returned from LE? As an employer, I wouldn't hire her, shes going to prison. jmo
If I lived in a small close knit town (I worked in one) I find small towns to be gossips, and troublemakers, not all in the little town, but enough.


Its time for microchips in our children. we can find our cell phone, open the garage, find our car, our boat and lots of things, including a necklace for grandma. But yet we do nothing like that to protect our children.

 

[human]

The white truck has been returned from LE? As an employer, I wouldn't hire her, shes going to prison. jmo
If I lived in a small close knit town (I worked in one) I find small towns to be gossips, and troublemakers, not all in the little town, but enough.


Its time for microchips in our children. we can find our cell phone, open the garage, find our car, our boat and lots of things, including a necklace for grandma. But yet we do nothing like that to protect our children.

If Terri has those that believe her to be innocent in her town, then they can find work for her such as housecleaning, yard work, typing, whatever. It would be a way to support a friend who is under such scrutiny.

 

[eyes4crime]

Dragging this thread up from p. 4 or so because I want to know where the heck is TH???? Afaik, we haven't heard anything about her whereabouts since a day or two after she moved to the 'berg. How come? The last thing I saw was an article saying that things were so quiet at her parents' home that she may be elsewhere. How is it possible that the media doesn't know where she is?

Thanks for dragging this thread up from page 4. I was wondering the same exact thing - where is Terri? We haven't heard a word, do you think she is sick? How can someone not appear anywhere? I know she has a lawyer who told her to shut her mouth, but really, Terri does have to live! mho

 

[kappy50]

If Terri has those that believe her to be innocent in her town, then they can find work for her such as housecleaning, yard work, typing, whatever. It would be a way to support a friend who is under such scrutiny.

absolutely...just look at Mary Winkler....

 

[Emeralgem]

absolutely...just look at Mary Winkler....

But Mary Winkler didn't hurt a child...JMO

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

Thanks for dragging this thread up from page 4. I was wondering the same exact thing - where is Terri? We haven't heard a word, do you think she is sick? How can someone not appear anywhere? I know she has a lawyer who told her to shut her mouth, but really, Terri does have to live! mho

Just don't ask her to babysit or give her your husband or boyfriend's cell phone Number. Sexting takes up a lot of her time & you don't want to be paying for that when you expected a clean house. Please no babysitting.!! Terri has been known to lose patience with little kids & shut them up permanently or lose them.:banghead::banghead:

 

[gwenabob]

But Mary Winkler didn't hurt a child...JMO

Maybe not directly.....but I think it would be safe to say her children were greatly harmed nonetheless.

 

[human]

Just don't ask her to babysit or give her your husband or boyfriend's cell phone Number. Sexting takes up a lot of her time & you don't want to be paying for that when you expected a clean house. Please no babysitting.!! Terri has been known to lose patience with little kids & shut them up permanently or lose them.:banghead::banghead:

I agree that having her close to a husband or boyfriend may be problematic, but if one believes her to be innocent and a wonderful mother and a teacher on top of it all, babysitting should not be a problem. She should be a desirable babysitter. It certainly would help her if her friends would show their faith in her,

 

[Emeralgem]

Maybe not directly.....but I think it would be safe to say her children were greatly harmed nonetheless.

O/T..Yes, I'm certain there are deep wounds..Hopefully, they are in counselling..
Also, my understanding is she has regained custody..Don't know If it is true but that is what my daughter told me...