Terri Horman, Getting Death Threats, Lawyer Says

[human]

If someone has made threats to her, they will be dealt with by LE.

I think this is a ploy by the attorney to get her out of the house and have no contest with taking baby K.

He thinks that this argument will work with the public.

I think they will go into court and he will say that Terri is moving out and not contesting having baby K because of the death threats.

I think it is a total strategy on his part to avoid giving any info that the court may ask in this case.

She has not been charged with anything yet.

Just the RO.

What else can the attorney do at this time? He has to keep information in his vest pocket.

 

[evelyn24]

It's a crime.

Yes, but it comes with the territory of high profile cases. That's what I mean.
Media attention attracts all kind of fools.

 

[wondering1]

Actually, it would probably would. Read the statute I quoted.

Maybe. That's a totally different Federal crime. I was just talking about assault as an example of a typical charge that could made against someone who was threatening bodily harm, and that requires something more than just words.

 

[Wrinkles]

wrinkles, he said, "threats of harm"... I think the media outlets ramped up the adjective... what do you think? Either way, any sort of threat is illegal I 'pose.

Media may have ramped it up, I haven't been able to substantiate it, but someone is coming up with the number "3" and the words death threats, so it kinda seems they have a source for that info since it appears to be specific -- but where is it "quoted."

As far as what I think otherwise... It just struck me, has Houze heard these death threats? Seen them? Is he just believing this from the person who was said to have told MC not to tell her attorney (i.e. him, Houze) that she had been at his house?

 

[miabellamoure]

Long time lurker, first time poster. :newbie: Be nice, pretty please?

Much has been said (see thread about TMH retaining attny) about Houze being a smooth talker, good with PR, strategic with what he says/releases to media, etc (IIRC).

Of all the issues surrounding TMH and her possible involvement, why on earth would he speak up (when he has been downright MUM up to this point) about DEATH THREATS from what we can only assume are, as someone upthread put it, "whackadoodles?" How does releasing this information help Terri? Is this supposed to garner sympathy for her?

I mean, if he was looking to get her into some kind of protective custody, I could see the relevance, but what does this have to do with the motion to get her out of the house quicker? If anything, IMO, if she's getting death threats, moving her to an unknown location would be DESIRABLE.

:cow:

My thoughts exactly...great first post! (wink)

 

[believe09]

I wont speak for BeanE in response to your question, miabellamoure, but she has the best of intentions always in my experience

 

[Sherbie]

I think when people say they're not surprised, they don't mean that they condone threats or that Terri deserves them. In a case with so much publicity, there are always the nuts who pop up with wild conspiracy theories, crazy claims and even threats.

That is what, unfortunately, is not surprising. Plenty of kooks in this world. Plenty of mean ones, too. But I don't think there's a soul on this board who would ever think that kind of thing is actually okay.

Sometimes we see so much tragedy in these cases that we kind of detach and can make light of even serious things. I personally have a dark, sarcastic, cynical sense of humor at times, and it's really nothing more than a tension-buster. I might've even said something like, "Hope none of them know any landscapers," without for a second forgetting the seriousness of things or thinking threats were okay.

In light of all we've all been through with cases over the years, we oughta try to give each other the benefit of the doubt. We're all good-hearted people here.

 

[human]

I don't know what the laws are in Oregon, but in my state, words can be something like third degree assault.

also, there is a category of "terroristic threats". I don't know the penalties or proof required.

I don't think anyone has to worry about Terri. LE will be all over it. It's their job.

I am more concerned about Baby K's life to be and where is Kyron?

At least in Teri's case, there will be a trail to follow for the threats.

 

[Calliope]

uh, it's a wink-wink...like maybe Houze is inflating what TH alleges she received because in the link I provided it does not mention the word "death"...that's all. I also think the title of this thread should be corrected, too.

Why? The first sentence in the article linked in the OP says "Kyron Horman 's stepmother, who has reportedly received three death threats, will go before a judge today who is expected to decide how soon she will be forced out of the family's Oregon home."

 

[eyes4crime]

Houze called the investigation a witch hunt and that the media frenzy has created death threats against his client. He told the judge Terri is having a hard time finding a place to live and needs time to pack, at least until Monday afternoon.
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http://www.katu.com/news/local/98542824.html

What's the difference between a threat of 'harm' or a 'death' threat? Is one better than the other? Harm could be broken legs, arson, slow torture committed by a person who is spewing hate toward another. Why should anyone have to choose between the two? moo

Using the media as a podium to launch a character assassination on a particular person could very well have stirred up the sickos in judgmental America. In all the years I've been following crime, I've only seen the media used once in this way - the Kevin Fox case where LE directed the assignment of hatred and guilt on to Kevin, who was later found to be innocent. The media is a powerful platform from which to play with the minds of sick people. moo

 

[Sherbie]

I think Terri's best bet right now is to go stay with her parents, if that would work for them. She would be with people who love her and can give her support, and it would be safer than living alone. Of course, I don't know how far from the area they live and whether that would be practical for contact with her attorney.

 

[Calliope]

I think when people say they're not surprised, they don't mean that they condone threats or that Terri deserves them. In a case with so much publicity, there are always the nuts who pop up with wild conspiracy theories, crazy claims and even threats.

That is what, unfortunately, is not surprising. Plenty of kooks in this world. Plenty of mean ones, too. But I don't think there's a soul on this board who would ever think that kind of thing is actually okay.

Sometimes we see so much tragedy in these cases that we kind of detach and can make light of even serious things. I personally have a dark, sarcastic, cynical sense of humor at times, and it's really nothing more than a tension-buster. I might've even said something like, "Hope none of them know any landscapers," without for a second forgetting the seriousness of things or thinking threats were okay.

In light of all we've all been through with cases over the years, we oughta try to give each other the benefit of the doubt. We're all good-hearted people here.

I wouldn't think these are necessarily 'kooks'. This is a well-moderated forum, we're not going to see stuff like that here. But I've been reading elsewhere, and it's scary what some are saying. These are probably normal, every day people who for whatever reason, feel she murdered Kyron and doesn't deserve to take another breath. I have no doubt she's received death threats.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

I think Terri's best bet right now is to go stay with her parents, if that would work for them. She would be with people who love her and can give her support, and it would be safer than living alone. Of course, I don't know how far from the area they live and whether that would be practical for contact with her attorney.

ITA - I don't know if TH living alone would be the best thing, considering the threats as well as the stress she is under.

 

[maystamper]

Monday afternoon would give TH enough time to sort through everything in the house including KH things. She could also take with her any receipts, mail, clothing and anything else that might be incriminating. Wonder what she has hidden around the house??

 

[BlOnDe_GuRrL]

Supposedly there's an open discussion group on facebook (i don't have an account so i can't see it) but some people from there mailed Terri a print out of what people are saying about her (including a death threat) and they didn't bother cutting off the top of the page that has the name right on it. Why are people so dumb?? There's nothing like sending a death threat and signing your name (or other people's names!)

 

[Calliope]

Monday afternoon would give TH enough time to sort through everything in the house including KH things. She could also take with her any receipts, mail, clothing and anything else that might be incriminating. Wonder what she has hidden around the house??

According to Kaine, the house and property has been thoroughly searched (more than once, IIRC).

She's known since at least the 8th that he wanted her out. She's had plenty of time to pack up and get her stuff out of there.

 

[Calliope]

Supposedly there's an open discussion group on facebook (i don't have an account so i can't see it) but some people from there mailed Terri a print out of what people are saying about her (including a death threat) and they didn't bother cutting off the top of the page that has the name right on it. Why are people so dumb?? There's nothing like sending a death threat and signing your name (or other people's names!)

Not the brightest bulb in the box, eh?

 

[Trident]

I don't know what the laws are in Oregon, but in my state, words can be something like third degree assault.

also, there is a category of "terroristic threats". I don't know the penalties or proof required.

I don't think anyone has to worry about Terri. LE will be all over it. It's their job.

I am more concerned about Baby K's life to be and where is Kyron?

At least in Teri's case, there will be a trail to follow for the threats.

I worry about everyone's life, adult or child.

 

[Sherbie]

I wouldn't think these are necessarily 'kooks'. This is a well-moderated forum, we're not going to see stuff like that here. But I've been reading elsewhere, and it's scary what some are saying. These are probably normal, every day people who for whatever reason, feel she murdered Kyron and doesn't deserve to take another breath. I have no doubt she's received death threats.

Well, yeah...I'm sure there are plenty who feel that way. But when someone takes it to the next level and actually expresses a threat of harm towards a person, to me that reclassifies them from normal to major kook.

For example, someone saying, "I think she's guilty and deserves <whatever>" is a lot different than, "I am going to break her neck, set her on fire, kill her," or when someone directly threatens her via phone, mail, etc. One is a type of thinking that a lot of people might fleetingly agree with at some point; the other is just plain mean and crazy. KWIM?

 

[tlcya]

Not the brightest bulb in the box, eh?

In my experience people who initiate terroristic acts, which is how I would catagorize death threats, aren't usually the sharpest tool in the shed.