Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #10 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

[Just K]

I'm not buying misplaced loyalty or the youth excuse. Again, I ask, how did these friends know to discard the Vaseline because it's a component of pipe bombs? I'm not buying innocent web surfing any more that I think the answer to all this international travel is frequent flyer miles. ALL MOO

Probably because DT was a braggart...he probably wanted to show off, made some explosives, which he then exhibited and detonated on the banks of the Charles River and it was likely not fireworks that he detonated...as per the friends retelling of that outing.

 

[jjenny]

Well, yes I know that.

My point was: if there was proof that she warned TT when his pictures were on TV rather than calling the FBI, wouldn't she be charged as well with obstruction of justice or aiding a criminal?

She hasn't been charged with anything so far. Even though reportedly DT claimed she called TT and warned him authorities were looking for him.
So I guess that wouldn't rise to obstruction of justice.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

This was from an article published on 4/27/13:

"Two college buddies of his — Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev — have been interviewed at length, twice, by FBI agents and have cooperated fully, said Kadyrbayev's lawyer, Robert Stahl, a former federal prosecutor.

They were detained April 20 after being questioned in connection with the attacks, but are not suspects, Stahl said. They are being detained at a county jail in Boston for violating their student visas by not regularly attending classes, he said.

The two, both students from Kazakhstan, had nothing to do with the attack and had seen no hints that their friend harbored any violent or terrorist sympathies, Stahl said."

So Attorney Stahl is not just any attorney, he is a formal federal prosecutor. How interesting that a 19 year old non-citizen seems to have obtained what would seem to be a highly qualified defense attorney. And quickly.

 

[McSpy]

I am tired of all the "youth" excuses also. Nobody who is suspected/ charged so far is a minor.

Agreed. Even though their youth is probably why they did these stupid things, TT and DT killed people and maimed people for life---horrible, nightmarish stuff. We need to always think about the victims. The other 3 tried to protect DT from justice. It is time they learn hard lessons for these crimes. Punishment and a signal that these crimes are going to be taken very seriously is the only way to go---no matter the age. Lets not go easy on them. They did a lot of damage.

JMO

 

[noodled1]

Well there's 3 markedly different descriptions of the fireworks allegedly belonging to DT in the charging documents, none of which really match the fireworks located in the bag from the landfill, as shown in the photo, so that should be fun to wade through in court. They all seem to still have their contents, except maybe the large tube at the rear.

I don't understand why Phillipos only got charged with lying/withholding evidence and the others got heavier charges, unless he agreed to give info. on the others in return for some leniency. They all allegedly confessed to going to DT's room and taking the bag and laptop and Phillipos may have claimed to have been asleep when the items were subsequently disposed of, but IMO it's hard to believe he would have had no idea that was going to be done. The difference in charges doesn't seem fair to me.

Phillipo's charges carry a longer sentence then the other two. His is actually the heavier charge 7 years max vs 5 years max

 

[georger]

One thing that is interesting to me,is that lying to authorities is a worse offense than hiding evidence.

... not to mention CONSPIRACY!

 

[AlwaysShocked]

The other attorney. Again, certainly not your run-of-the-mill local guy. This one seems to be a really big hitter.


Harlan Protass has over sixteen years experience in the areas of criminal defense and governmental enforcement proceedings.

In his criminal practice, Harlan represents individuals and business organizations in federal and state court matters involving a broad spectrum of charges, such as securities fraud, insider trading, wire and mail fraud, money laundering, embezzlement and larceny, as well as RICO violations and tax offenses. His background in the financial services industry brings valuable insights to the defense of clients in investigations and enforcement proceedings brought by regulatory authorities ranging from the SEC and FINRA to the IRS and New York State Department of Taxation.

Recent representative matters include:

-- Represented a senior officer of a publicly traded company in high-profile insider trading investigation and prosecution

-- Successfully represented an executive of an international insurance company targeted for prosecution in a highly-publicized investigation by the New York Attorney General, which ultimately dropped its plan to pursue charges

-- Represented a construction company under investigation by the New York Department of Investigation, resulting in no adverse consequences to business operations

-- Persuaded government to drop charges of securities fraud and money laundering and instead permit client to plead guilty to a single count of making a false statement, resulting in non-custodial sentence

-- Negotiated a favorable plea agreement on behalf of an executive of a medical billing company charged with structuring financial transactions, resulting in a non-custodial sentence

-- Represented registered representative in parallel securities fraud investigations by the U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission

-- Obtained non-custodial sentence for individual charged with RICO violations notwithstanding suggested guidelines of 21 to 27 months imprisonment

-- Represented former New York police officer charged with Hobbs Act robbery conspiracy


Wonder who is paying for these obviously high-priced attorneys?

 

[georger]

Vaseline: how is this used in bomb making?

could be used to waterproof a seal ... lube any mechanical parts ... etc

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

I'm not buying misplaced loyalty or the youth excuse. Again, I ask, how did these friends know to discard the Vaseline because it's a component of pipe bombs? I'm not buying innocent web surfing any more that I think the answer to all this international travel is frequent flyer miles. ALL MOO

I'd read that they were apparently contacted by DT after the bombings to discard a backpack in his room that had fireworks/gunpowder in it. It's possible all that stuff was together in the backpack and they simply tossed it into the dumpster.

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013...OSP/story.html

 

[georger]

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/201...on-bombings/dhLzU1e5vfbuhxyjWlBOSP/story.html




So admitting you tried to hide a terrorist's bomb evidence is supposed to more than make up for the fact that you tried to hide a terrorist's bomb evidence?

How can the lawyer say that with a straight face!! They disposed of evidence and admitted to knowing that it WAS evidence of terrorism! They honestly think they can just leave the country because they "cooperated"?

Ive had the feeling all along somebody(s) has been covering for TT and DT
because they came and went too freely from who knows where ... before
and after the bombing. That alone almost guaranteed others had to be
involved or knowledgeable.

 

[georger]

Wow! This just keeps getting more and more bizarre, doesn't it?

Or more and more specific!

 

[jjenny]

Phillipo's charges carry a longer sentence then the other two. His is actually the heavier charge 7 years max vs 5 years max

Yep. He isn't getting any breaks there.

 

[Sillybilly]

I simply don't understand how instructions for making what are classed as WMDs are allowed to be on the internet anywhere in the world. IMO, any ISP who allows anyone to post such materials should be shut down ... period !!!

Speaking of which, I just heard a while ago on CNN that some of the bomb making equipment included "red tubes". First thing that went through my mind when i heard that was dynamite. Does anyone have a link to the pics of the recovered equipment?

 

[georger]

So how did these "kids" know to discard the Vaseline? How did they know that Vaseline was used to make pipe bombs?

more to the point:! that Vaseline (had been!) was used to make pipe bombs?
:banghead:

 

[georger]

Lying to the FBI is the more serious charge as far as penalty.

I think at the bottom of this could very easily be a *conspiracy* (Federal)
charge and that is serious . . .

 

[ami]

This was from an article published on 4/27/13:

"Two college buddies of his — Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev — have been interviewed at length, twice, by FBI agents and have cooperated fully, said Kadyrbayev's lawyer, Robert Stahl, a former federal prosecutor.

They were detained April 20 after being questioned in connection with the attacks, but are not suspects, Stahl said. They are being detained at a county jail in Boston for violating their student visas by not regularly attending classes, he said.

The two, both students from Kazakhstan, had nothing to do with the attack and had seen no hints that their friend harbored any violent or terrorist sympathies, Stahl said."

So Attorney Stahl is not just any attorney, he is a formal federal prosecutor. How interesting that a 19 year old non-citizen seems to have obtained what would seem to be a highly qualified defense attorney. And quickly.

The other attorney. Again, certainly not your run-of-the-mill local guy. This one seems to be a really big hitter.


Harlan Protass has over sixteen years experience in the areas of criminal defense and governmental enforcement proceedings.

In his criminal practice, Harlan represents individuals and business organizations in federal and state court matters involving a broad spectrum of charges, such as securities fraud, insider trading, wire and mail fraud, money laundering, embezzlement and larceny, as well as RICO violations and tax offenses. His background in the financial services industry brings valuable insights to the defense of clients in investigations and enforcement proceedings brought by regulatory authorities ranging from the SEC and FINRA to the IRS and New York State Department of Taxation.

Recent representative matters include:

-- Represented a senior officer of a publicly traded company in high-profile insider trading investigation and prosecution

-- Successfully represented an executive of an international insurance company targeted for prosecution in a highly-publicized investigation by the New York Attorney General, which ultimately dropped its plan to pursue charges

-- Represented a construction company under investigation by the New York Department of Investigation, resulting in no adverse consequences to business operations

-- Persuaded government to drop charges of securities fraud and money laundering and instead permit client to plead guilty to a single count of making a false statement, resulting in non-custodial sentence

-- Negotiated a favorable plea agreement on behalf of an executive of a medical billing company charged with structuring financial transactions, resulting in a non-custodial sentence

-- Represented registered representative in parallel securities fraud investigations by the U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission

-- Obtained non-custodial sentence for individual charged with RICO violations notwithstanding suggested guidelines of 21 to 27 months imprisonment

-- Represented former New York police officer charged with Hobbs Act robbery conspiracy


Wonder who is paying for these obviously high-priced attorneys?

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My guess is that defense attorneys are lining up to take their cases, and possibly even chasing these kids families down volunteering to represent them. Major publicity, potentially the biggest legal case of their careers.

 

[1&2&3]

Re appearances before the federal immigration judge this morning:

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Tazhayakov, an economics major, had his visa terminated on Jan. 4, but he was allowed to reenter the country on Jan. 20 in New York, the judge said in court. The discrepancy puzzled Judge Day. “That doesn’t make any sense,” he said. Day set a bail hearing for Tazhayakov for May 9.

With the numerous errors that have been shown on visa/immigration issues in this one case alone, it is apparent the US has a major problem! :banghead:

 

[deoneta]

I'd read that they were apparently contacted by DT after the bombings to discard a backpack in his room that had fireworks/gunpowder in it. It's possible all that stuff was together in the backpack and they simply tossed it into the dumpster.

DT only texted to them that they could have any of his stuff they wanted, implying he wasn't coming back for it. He didn't ask them to remove anything-- unless that was prearranged code for a clean up which would imply prior knowledge. Based on the charges, that doesn't seem to be the case. As things stand now anyway.

 

[Elainera]

Sometimes there are very serious consquences to "poor judgement." I will just leave it at that.

Of course there are, I don't think anyone would deny that. Nevertheless, serious crimes can and do happen soley because of poor judgement.

She hasn't been charged with anything so far. Even though reportedly DT claimed she called TT and warned him authorities were looking for him.
So I guess that wouldn't rise to obstruction of justice.

Just now CNN is saying that KR has confirmed that she did call TT after the pictures were shown on TV. She did not disclose what she said to him.

 

[Nana]

DT only texted to them that they could have any of his stuff they wanted, implying he wasn't coming back for it. He didn't ask them to remove anything-- unless that was prearranged code for a clean up which would imply prior knowledge. Based on the charges, that doesn't seem to be the case. As things stand now anyway.

This is just crazy! If he texted to them they could have any of his stuff they wanted did the text stop there did they not ask why? Where are you going? I just do not see it stopping with that comment.