Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #11 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

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Was the FBI agent the only one in the apt. with Ibrahim? Were the State Police outside the apt. door perhaps guarding the door? If all the people reportedly at the apt. were inside the apt. at the time Ibrahim attacked the FBI agent, that certainly was one fast acting agent! But why would the officers have not responded faster as they weren't the ones being attacked? It seems they would have been able to draw weapons and shoot much quicker? Or even run to Ibrahim to distract him or get him away from the agent.
 
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Why was Boston police at the scene?? I thought forensic from the triple murder confirmed that both brothers were at victims house ?

Do you think today might mean they (brothers ) had nothing to do with murder or just another person invovled?

Just another person involved IMO.
 
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Am going to flesh out my case re Canadian! Fascinating! Please read below with the notion that, IMO, when older left here HE NEVER PLANNED ON RETURNING TO USA:

The connection is that, both have extremely similar trajectories.

Both were amateur boxers, uh, immigrants from that part of the world, who apparently became radicalized very quickly, and then went off to that part of the world to Dagestan to pursue that.

William Plotnikov was actually detained by the Russian security forces in early 2011, during questioning with the Russian FSB security agency, he reportedly named Tsarnaev as one of his online contacts.

Plotnikov went to Dagestan for the second time in late 2011, and joined the, the rebels

he was killed because he was, uh, living in the mountains, uh, with a group of, uh, fighters, who were part of this north caucus’ movement that’s trying to impose this Islamist regime in southern Russia, and they’ve been doing various,uh, attacks on, especially on Russian forces.(neat angle why Russians gave us a heads up , supposedly!)

They were talking about jihad, and about killing non-believers

http://www.theworld.org/2013/05/canadian-jihadist-linked-to-accused-boston-bomber/

Tamerlan Tsarnaev went to Dagestan in, uh, January 2012 and was there until July, and actually left, uh, returned to the United States just a few days after William Plotnikov was killed

some suggestion that he was spooked by the killing of Plotnikov.
 
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Was the FBI agent the only one in the apt. with Ibrahim? Were the State Police outside the apt. door perhaps guarding the door? If all the people reportedly at the apt. were inside the apt. at the time Ibrahim attacked the FBI agent, that certainly was one fast acting agent! But why would the officers have not responded faster as they weren't the ones being attacked? It seems they would have been able to draw weapons and shoot much quicker? Or even run to Ibrahim to distract him or get him away from the agent.

Reports say an FBI agent and two Boston LE were in the kitchen with him and I think there were two more local LE in the apartment or around there.
 
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who raided the house in Dagestan where William was staying and told him to go home. The Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta, reported that during questioning, William named Tsarnaev as an online contact.

The Russians subsequently asked the FBI for more information about Tsarnaev, who was described as a “follower of radical Islam” who intended to “join unspecified underground groups” in Russia. But the FBI could find nothing linking him to terrorism and in January 2012, Tsarnaev flew to Moscow and made his way south to Dagestan.

Plotnikov was one of two local contacts (the other one, a local Russian Palestinian teenager was killed by the police in May 2012

After Plotnikov was detained, the security services, using "a wide range of special equipment", allegedly extracted from him a list of people he communicated with; one of the names belonged to Tsarnaev.[10] Tsarnaev had previously visited his aunt in Toronto where Plotnikov lived


Plotnikov came under international scrutiny after an investigative article in Russia's liberal opposition investigative newspaper Novaya Gazeta



roll with me I thought this was huge

Doing my theory abbreviated:

Older get rejected here from his dream to be boxer BECAUSE HE IS NOT AMERICAN.

Follows in mom dad route and returns over there disenchanted with AMerican, he certainly has mom support on this

The canidian and him connect somehow (sports common interest/hatred for America)

then this :

perhaps when Tsarnaev unsuccessfully attempted to join the insurgency in Dagestan ...

More rejection

Candian killed older afraid and comes back here

and just says x it I am going to inflict harm to these 🤬🤬🤬'ers

My angle here was that evidently to join an insugency there is like an internship (the 6 months he was over there ) BUT he failed to get in (not quite sure what that criteria might possibly be - not enough hate? Cant work an AK 47?!!!!!!)

Notions please!

William Plotnikov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The local police chief in Utamysh, Murtuzali Abdurakhmanov, confirmed to TIME that Plotnikov had been a member of a terrorist group in the village and was killed in a counterinsurgency operation

When police brought Plotnikov’s body back to the village from the forest in July, the congregants at the mosque washed it and prepared it for burial, Imam Arslangerey, of the mosque where Plotnikov worshipped, tells TIME. “It was not bloated like you would expect after that much time had passed. He looked like he was sleeping.”

Read more: http://world.time.com/2013/04/29/picking-up-the-boston-bomber-trail-in-utamysh-russia/#ixzz2U4xuiM8U

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was doing for much of his time in the Russian republic: he was fixing up his father’s home.

Read more: http://world.time.com/2013/04/21/ne...-there-laboring-for-his-father/#ixzz2U4yjtvNG

Never heard this!

the Tsarnaevs either dumped their hostage at a Cambridge gas station, or allowed him to escape, perhaps in the confusion after Dzhokhar was caught trying to shoplift junk food from the gas station’s convenience store.

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2013/04/21/give-thanks-for-dumb-terrorists/#ixzz2U4zRI2RU


Picture of where he lived (older) while over there

http://world.time.com/2013/04/21/ne...spent-his-time-there-laboring-for-his-father/
 
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So Todashev was another person here on asylum status yet made visits back to his homeland. I hope the new law passed this week takes place immediately so these refugees have to decide which country they want to live in and once they leave the USA they are gone!

As with anything, there are always a few that ruin it for everyone. This is for the poster who commented about the Vietnam refugees. I, too, hate to see good people penalized; maybe our government will one day figure out a solution.
 
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I'm trying to figure out what some drug ripoff entailed - was he claiming they tried to steal the drugs from the 3 guys and got caught, somebody wanted the drugs but didn't want to pay, or what?
The triple in my mind was like it was Sept 11, older gave up partying in his conversion, they were smoking, on Sept 11 older went nuts (ie bad evil drug doing AMericans) and it all got out of hand.

They all were dead and the weed was left there so how can media say he said drug rip off when you forget what your stealing!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Did Todashev speak and understand English well? Wondering if after admitting to the murder and ready to sign the confession, he suddenly realized what he had just done? At that point, he freaked out. From prior reports, he had a temper and was hot-headed. Being in the kitchen it was a convenient place to obtain a knife!
 
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The date of the murders was Sept. 12, 2011. It keeps getting turned around.
 
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I'm trying to figure out what some drug ripoff entailed - was he claiming they tried to steal the drugs from the 3 guys and got caught, somebody wanted the drugs but didn't want to pay, or what?

I am not buying the drug ripoff side of the story yet. Especially with 5K cash still remaining in the apartment. What we do have, is two dead suspects who will not be independently interviewed. CNN were reporting not only a few weeks ago that DT/TT were solely responsible for the triple murder now we have another suspect confessing to their direct involvement & is dead, that's why I read what's reported with a large grain of salt. IMO
 
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CNN never reported that only DT/TT were responsible.
 
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The date of the murders was Sept. 12, 2011. It keeps getting turned around.

No, the date of the murders was Sept 11, 2011. Bodies were discovered on Sept 12, but murders took place on Sept 11.
 
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