Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #11 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

[Neige]

Boston Bombing Suspect Mentally ‘Normal,’ Mother Says After Call

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...t-mentally-normal-mother-says-after-call.html

“I couldn’t stop myself from crying,” Zubeidat Tsarnaeva said in an phone interview late yesterday from Makhachkala, the capital of Russia’s Dagestan region. “He said: ‘I am absolutely fine, my wounds are healing. Everything is in God’s hands. Be patient. Everything will be fine.’”

 

[KarmaGet'em]

Boston Bombing Suspect Mentally ‘Normal,’ Mother Says After Call

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...t-mentally-normal-mother-says-after-call.html

“I couldn’t stop myself from crying,” Zubeidat Tsarnaeva said in an phone interview late yesterday from Makhachkala, the capital of Russia’s Dagestan region. “He said: ‘I am absolutely fine, my wounds are healing. Everything is in God’s hands. Be patient. Everything will be fine.’”

Hmmm. He didn't say "Mom, I didn't do it!". Very telling. (Not that I had any doubts)

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Hmmm. He didn't say "Mom, I didn't do it!". Very telling. (Not that I had any doubts)

I think he assumes she thinks he did it.
But she acts like he's being set up.

I would bet she KNOWS he did it and is just trying to defend him.
I'm sure it's hard on her.

She's a strange one. That's for sure.

 

[CARIIS]

With all due respect, the fact that the officer was shot by friendly fire was reported a lot.
They reported that they started investigating it 4/25:
http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/04/25/authorities-investigate-friendly-fire-wounded-mbta-officer-shoot-out-with-boston-marathon-bombing-suspects/pnPFWw6A3irQKRzhlB6zIN/story.html

They have not been able to recover the bullet, so it takes time to determine what happened.

They have even interviewed the officer himself, who acknowledges that it was possible to be friendly fire and sees that as part of the job in such a chaotic scene. (That being said, if there was no shootout with TT and DT, the officer would not have been wounded.)
http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/22293108/2013/05/19/officer-shot-in-marathon-showdown-wants-to-work#ixzz2TpyOvIny

The only place I have seen people screaming TT and DT are being blamed for shooting Officer Donohue are ones that claim DT and TT are innocent and being framed. And even those people are confusing the fatal shooting of the MIT officer with the wounding of the MTBA officer (Donohue).

So, I guess my question to you is are you basing your opinion that it is grossly under reported because of the people that are claiming DT and TTs innocence and confusing the two incidents?

Of course not! There is no doubt that that they did the bombing. I am, however stating that many, many, many questions need to be asked as it relates to the Orlando event.

 

[CARIIS]

I understand the police were in a very hectic and confusing situation, but sure seems they were a bit trigger happy. That is a lot of bullets flying around a residential neighborhood. What I also find interesting is the reports of homeowners of the bullets coming in one wall and continuing through their homes. Law Enforecement usually use hollow point bullets in part because it doesnt penetrate well so as to avoid this exact result.

It should not take days to start the friendly fire question. It is my understanding that the officer was hit after older was down on the ground and younger in car supposedly attempting to murder his revered (by him!) older brother.

Can we be saying with dozens of LE on scene, that with both suspects out of play and an officer being struck that it ought to have been reasonable to pretty quickly concluse that it was friendly fire?

The same pattern emerged at the boat -- a mind dumbing amount of shooting going on at a suspect that is trapped in a boat and injured. Lets not forget that no gun was found there either.

One can only come to the logical conclusion that the barrage of gun fire was triggered by a LE member on scene.

Nor am I certainly not understanding the hectic situation in both instances.

I am however wanting the truth - Orlando is very very unsettling. There would be a reason why an 8 hour interogation might not have been recorded - THAT is an issue that should bother all as it relates to our notions of innocent until PROVEN guilty.

 

[Capri]

So, DT's mother has been promised a phone call a month with her son.

 

[CARIIS]

I think he assumes she thinks he did it.
But she acts like he's being set up.

I would bet she KNOWS he did it and is just trying to defend him.
I'm sure it's hard on her.

She's a strange one. That's for sure.

I think she did what any terrorist would do. She had the world attention in the beginning and used it to spew anti American notions. Media gave her the platform and she took it, IMO hoping to inspire someone else to do something else.

 

[Capri]

Hmmm. He didn't say "Mom, I didn't do it!". Very telling. (Not that I had any doubts)

I'm guessing DT's lawyers have prepped him on what to say and what not to say. The mother is a loose cannon. The last thing they want if for her to start talking and ask stupid questions, that could be used against him.No doubt they gave the mother questions NOT to ask as well, like "Did you do it?"

 

[KarmaGet'em]

It should not take days to start the friendly fire question. It is my understanding that the officer was hit after older was down on the ground and younger in car supposedly attempting to murder his revered (by him!) older brother.

Can we be saying with dozens of LE on scene, that with both suspects out of play and an officer being struck that it ought to have been reasonable to pretty quickly concluse that it was friendly fire?

The same pattern emerged at the boat -- a mind dumbing amount of shooting going on at a suspect that is trapped in a boat and injured. Lets not forget that no gun was found there either.

One can only come to the logical conclusion that the barrage of gun fire was triggered by a LE member on scene.

Nor am I certainly not understanding the hectic situation in both instances.

I am however wanting the truth - Orlando is very very unsettling. There would be a reason why an 8 hour interogation might not have been recorded - THAT is an issue that should bother all as it relates to our notions of innocent until PROVEN guilty.

I suppose it took days for the media to report the friendly fire possibility. I imagine the authorities were waiting for the officer that was shot to become stable. I believe they were hoping to retrieve the bullet, which unfortunately they could not. Five days does not seem long when the first priority is the saving the officer's life. You can hypothesize that it was friendly fire, but you need forensics to verify it.

I believe, from the way the officers described it in this interview, (http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/05/14/watertown-police-officers-how-the-tsarnaev-firefight-went-down/) Officer D. was hit when they were shooting at DT as he was running over his brother and fleeing the scene.

Regarding the "a mind dumbing amount of shooting going on at a suspect that is trapped in a boat", you are correct. There were a lot of shots at DT. They used rubber bullets and flash bombs intentionally to get him to come out alive. I heard it discussed on the police scanner as it was happening. They wanted a live DT so they could get answers from him. Keep in mind they still did not know DT was unarmed and I am sure they were prepared to use real bullets but their first goal was to disorient DT and then have a negotiator talk him out of the boat.

As for Orlando, there are many unknowns at this point. I have not seen it stated anywhere that they do not have a recording. I just don't think any information is being given out right now. Perhaps its because they do not have a "person in custody" (IT is dead) and the evidence they have may implicate a suspect they do have in custody (DT). I am waiting for more information before judging their actions.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I suppose it took days for the media to report the friendly fire possibility. I imagine the authorities were waiting for the officer that was shot to become stable. I believe they were hoping to retrieve the bullet, which unfortunately they could not. Five days does not seem long when the first priority is the saving the officer's life. You can hypothesize that it was friendly fire, but you need forensics to verify it.

I believe, from the way the officers described it in this interview, (http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/05/14/watertown-police-officers-how-the-tsarnaev-firefight-went-down/) Officer D. was hit when they were shooting at DT as he was running over his brother and fleeing the scene.

Regarding the "a mind dumbing amount of shooting going on at a suspect that is trapped in a boat", you are correct. There were a lot of shots at DT. They used rubber bullets and flash bombs intentionally to get him to come out alive. I heard it discussed on the police scanner as it was happening. They wanted a live DT so they could get answers from him. Keep in mind they still did not know DT was unarmed and I am sure they were prepared to use real bullets but their first goal was to disorient DT and then have a negotiator talk him out of the boat.

As for Orlando, there are many unknowns at this point. I have not seen it stated anywhere that they do not have a recording. I just don't think any information is being given out right now. Perhaps its because they do not have a "person in custody" (IT is dead) and the evidence they have may implicate a suspect they do have in custody (DT). I am waiting for more information before judging their actions.

I agree with your entire post.

To add to your great post:

We all need to remember, LE's priority is to investigate. Not to keep us informed of every thing they discover.

I don't care if it took 1 minute or 1 month to let us know it was friendly fire.
It makes no difference in the facts or the investigation.

Just because information is not released to us immediately does not mean there is a cover up.
Keeping us informed by the minute is not a priority during an active investigation.

JMO

 

[jjenny]

"Bella Tsarnaeva was arrested in December 2012 after police responded to her Fairview home on a domestic violence report and found marijuana, according to court papers. Authorities said they had first found her live-in boyfriend, Ahmad Khalil, at the apartment, which they searched after smelling marijuana. Both Tsarnaeva and Khalil were indicted on April 10 with possession of marijuana with intent to distribute."

http://www.northjersey.com/fairview...ts_pleads_not_guilty_to_marijuana_charge.html

 

[KarmaGet'em]

I'm guessing DT's lawyers have prepped him on what to say and what not to say. The mother is a loose cannon. The last thing they want if for her to start talking and ask stupid questions, that could be used against him.No doubt they gave the mother questions NOT to ask as well, like "Did you do it?"

I agree. Though I expected ZT to proclaim that DT told her he was innocent (whether he said it or not) to support her claim that it was a setup. I think she knows the truth about her sons involvement. I am not sure about her own involvement in (or knowledge of) the bombing. JMO.

 

[BostonMom]

This may clear up a little of what went down in Orlando:

Source: Friend of bombing suspect attacked agent with sword

Read more: http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/22...spect-attacked-agent-with-sword#ixzz2UeIQmHog

 

[redheadedgal]

sydney named prom queen!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...784.1073741831.142683559247334&type=1&theater

 

[BeginnersLuck]

If anyone wants to chime in here and correct me if I'm wrong you can.

From my experience in cases the FBI is involved in, they seem to have a policy of being silent while the investigation is ongoing. I'm leaning more on the lines of what I remember from missing person cases.

eta: This just seems like common protocol to me with the FBI.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

This may clear up a little of what went down in Orlando:

Source: Friend of bombing suspect attacked agent with sword

Read more: http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/22...spect-attacked-agent-with-sword#ixzz2UeIQmHog

I think that would possibly be similar to a Samurai sword. Nothing you would want to take chances with.

I've experienced a split second life or death situation before. Until you've been there, I don't think there is anyway you could comprehend it. I think that's why a lot of people question LE when deadly force is used. It's easy to say, they should have tried to subdue the perp before using deadly force if you've never been in that position. I can imagine for some it is hard to comprehend.

Statements have been made that he agreed to interviews on his terms, in his home. I can speculate on several reasons why he would have wanted to do it that way.

 

[claudicici]

This may clear up a little of what went down in Orlando:

Source: Friend of bombing suspect attacked agent with sword

Read more: http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/22...spect-attacked-agent-with-sword#ixzz2UeIQmHog

Nope sorry ,that article seems to muddle things up even more.....
aparently IT has Ninja skills and was able to get a hold of a sword....:dunno:

 

[claudicici]

If anyone wants to chime in here and correct me if I'm wrong you can.

From my experience in cases the FBI is involved in, they seem to have a policy of being silent while the investigation is ongoing. I'm leaning more on the lines of what I remember from missing person cases.

eta: This just seems like common protocol to me with the FBI.

Now THAT does clear things up.

 

[claudicici]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...fter-call.html
The Tsarnaev brothers were capable of such a crime, the leader of the Russia’s Chechnya region, Ramzan Kadyrov, said in a statement on his website yesterday. While ethnic Chechens, they had no link to the region, he said.

“I checked information about the brothers through my own contacts,” Kadyrov said. “Those who knew them well say they were capable of carrying out illegal acts in any country.”

By contrast, a 27-year-old Chechen man who knew Tamerlan and who was shot dead during questioning last week in Florida was a “good guy,” Kadyrov said.

Ibragim Todashev’s father works in the Chechen government, Kadyrov said. “In his last phone conversation with his father, he told him that he wants to come home because they started to persecute Chechens in America.”

Interesting how the Chechen leader is totally throwing the Tsarnaev's under the bus and VERY interesting that IT's dad works for the government....

 

[redheadedgal]

http://nesn.com/2013/05/boston-mara...itches-for-strikes-at-fenway-park-animations/