Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #6 *SUSPECT APPREHENDED*

[boston_baby]

Blowing innocent people up in the name of Jihad isn't an "everyday folks" kind of thing IMO.

I meant "everyday" in the extremist sense (LOL - I know that sounds odd). The "foot soldiers" as it were. The higher-ups dont get their hands dirty.

 

[Elley Mae]

Another of the suspect's tweets, an apparent response to someone else's tweet, reads, " and they what 'god hates dead people?' Or victims of tragedies? Lol those people are cooked."

Also Tuesday, Tsarnaev tweeted, "So then I says to him, I says, relax bro my beard is not loaded." On Friday, another Twitter user retweeted that message, and added the words, "But my backpack is."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/19/justice/boston-suspect-tweets/?hpt=us_t3

 

[noodled1]

I didn't say he should get a pass. I'm saying that, IMO, his older brother killed five people. I realize it's not a popular opinion and have no quarrel with those who don't agree with me.

Both brothers placed the bombs. We have a pic of #2 setting the bomb down, The FBI has video of him doing it. He's 19 that's more than old enough to know you don't set bombs down in a public place.

This took time and planning, time to build the bombs time to plan where they would go then time to execute the plan. He had more than enough time/opportunities to say no or turn his brother in

From police reports on the night of the gunfight he got out of a vehicle and exchanged gun fire with the police. He got wounded in the gun fight, he could have stayed in the car he could have got out and laid down.

This person you're making excuses for had more than enough chances to do the right thing

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Wasn't it the 19 year old that left the back pack at Martin's feet?

Surely he's responsible for killing and maiming the people with that back pack device.

Yes it was. He's just as guilty as the older brother.
They share the guilt.
No matter whose idea it was.

 

[x_files]

Never thought of it like that. I thought if a family member suggested "Hey lets bomb some random innocents" it is time to slap some sense into the family member and tell them "NO".

The whole worshiping thing never crossed my mind.

Maybe older brother had a charismatic personality. That might explain little brother AND wife who apparently knew "nothing" and won't talk to the press. I still think others are involved, older brother did not come up with such a random and crazy idea on his own.

Somehow I think even if there WERE others the official story will be "No others...just a lone crazy....nothing to see here please move along".

I agree with you. I think older brother had ties with Chechen Mafia or terrorists cells. I'd love to know what he did in Russia for six months. I am not 100% thinking his family was clueless. Wife maybe, but not his Mother and Father. JMOO.

 

[ami]

Both brothers placed the bombs. We have a pic of #2 setting the bomb down, The FBI has video of him doing it. He's 19 that's more than old enough to know you don't set bombs down in a public place.

This took time and planning, time to build the bombs time to plan where they would go then time to execute the plan. He had more than enough time/opportunities to say no or turn his brother in

From police reports on the night of the gunfight he got out of a vehicle and exchanged gun fire with the police. He got wounded in the gun fight, he could have stayed in the car he could have got out and laid down.

This person you're making excuses for had more than enough chances to do the right thing

I just can't get over that he could clearly see he was placing his pack bomb down behind a line of little kids. He walked up, put the bag down directly behind a few women and a few kids, walked off with a smile.

 

[WhoaIsMe]

What you just described would also make him a likely recruit. A person skilled in covert operations would recognize him as such. In addition, the fact that suspect one was caucasian and lived in the US only made him more appealing. His ability to blend in would outweigh any concern that he might be a loose cannon.

Also, if the suspects were such "losers" -- their uncle's own term -- then how did they manage to pull off the first significant terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11 without assistance ?

I just don't know. I can see it both ways. I have to wait until more information is available before I can make a confident guess.

Unfortunately, I think it's a real possibility the younger brother knows very little. The way a cell works is for no participant to know the chain of command beyond his immediate superior.





JMO

BBM

Didn't this also happen at Fort Hood in '09, only we just decided to call that event workplace violence for some reason. IMO it was a terrorist attack.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Yes. Just as the DC sniper's young follower killed and maimed innocent people. I don't think either of the followers would have done so on their own. I may be wrong. We may find out that the younger brother was the instigator, but that's just not my gut feeling.

I really don't think it matters who the instigator is.
When he went along with it, he made a conscious decision to kill innocent people.

He's a 19 year old monster as far as I'm concerned.

 

[noodled1]

I just can't get over that he could clearly see he was placing his pack bomb down behind a line of little kids. He walked up, put the bag down directly behind a few women and a few kids, walked off with a smile.

I'll add and went to a party on Wednesday night and made twitter posts as if nothing had ever happened.

Ran his brother over trying to escape

Cold Blooded Killer and nothing more

 

[belimom]

The boat family must have been so freaked out. I cant imagine knowing he was in my own backyard. Hiding out in my personal property. So surreal.

Agree. Also, supposedly the boat was the man's 'baby'. I'm thinking someone with $$$ is going to step in and get him a new shiny one, based upon his actions of discovering this suspect. JMO

 

[21merc7]

What you just described would also make him a likely recruit. A person skilled in covert operations would recognize him as such. In addition, the fact that suspect one was caucasian and lived in the US only made him more appealing. His ability to blend in would outweigh any concern that he might be a loose cannon.

Also, if the suspects were such "losers" -- their uncle's own term -- then how did they manage to pull off the first significant terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11 without assistance?

I just don't know. I can see it both ways. I have to wait until more information is available before I can make a confident guess.

Unfortunately, I think it's a real possibility the younger brother knows very little. The way a cell works is for no participant to know the chain of command beyond his immediate superior.


JMO

IDK if they are part of a cell or not. I do know that making those bombs does not take outside assistance, nor does putting them on the sidewalk in a huge crowd. It could be personal, it could be larger.

What the motivation(s) are is up to the Feds to find out.

I do know that there are lots of odd groups that are not attached to the larger known ones that young people do get involved in - via the internet. This could be part of that. Who knows?

 

[fred&edna]

One of these bombers looked a victim in the eye when he placed the backpack. I wonder what both were thinking in that moment.

 

[Sonya610]

I agree with you. I think older brother had ties with Chechen Mafia or terrorists cells. I'd love to know what he did in Russia for six months. I am not 100% thinking his family was clueless. Wife maybe, but not his Mother and Father. JMOO.

Yeah, since older brother was apparently seeking "status" someone told him status could be achieved in this way. If someone hadn't told him that he might have become a rich professional or maybe started smuggling drugs, but not blowing up folks (for no profit) at a marathon.

The Dagestan thing has to be linked, which is why the FBI was checking this guy out 2 years ago.

Did someone say the FBI checked him out because of a tip from a foreign government? I think when Russian President Putin offered condolences the subtext was "See, we were right, we told you years ago".

 

[tiredblondy]

I don' think or understand how he could know he was going to run over his brother when he was dodging bullets in the middle of a gunfight. I do not believe that was intentional.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I agree with you. I think older brother had ties with Chechen Mafia or terrorists cells. I'd love to know what he did in Russia for six months. I am not 100% thinking his family was clueless. Wife maybe, but not his Mother and Father. JMOO.

God help me but I truly believe Chechen Mafia is linked with terrorism anyway. I've read reports on AQ in the past that stated they received funding from the heroin trade, that Russian Mafia footed most of it. I know they're supposed to be 2 different entities but they aren't so much anymore. Or are they? Idk. I drive myself crazy trying to figure it out. However, I definitely remember reading about how AQ got the bulk of their moolah.

Which brings me to this: How did these kids earn a living? Did they have jobs? I read that the older bro lost his job, or was laid off or something...

 

[cbanning]

I won't give him a pass, either. I'm not buying the older brother peer pressure angle. What's next - a "Just Say No To Terrorists" campaign?

DT participated in making homemade explosives, participated in blowing up innocent people - including children; participated in murdering innocent people - including an 8 year old child.

The coddling of today's young people wears thin. The perpetual excuses made for today's young people is one of the reasons so many of the younger generation are out of control, IMO.

When my kids were growing up, if they did something wrong, I held them personally accountable, even if they tried to blame it on one of their friends or tried to claim that it was so-and-so's idea. Finger-pointing made me livid. I told them "You made the decision to participate, you're responsible for your own decisions. You're accountable for your own actions."

DT is responsible (and will be held responsible) for his heinous decisions. He is accountable (and will be held accountable) for his murderous actions.

Well said. It's time we stop coddling our children and teach them to take responsibility for their actions.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

One of these bombers looked a victim in the eye when he placed the backpack. I wonder what both were thinking in that moment.

I know. That gives me chills to think about it.
Jeff looked into the eyes of the person that would be responsible for blowing both his legs off within the next couple of minutes.

Truly looking into the eyes if evil.

 

[sorrell skye]

I just can't get over that he could clearly see he was placing his pack bomb down behind a line of little kids. He walked up, put the bag down directly behind a few women and a few kids, walked off with a smile.

Yep - it takes a cold-hearted b*****d to do that. Peer pressure/sibling worship be damned. He knew what he was doing, and seemed to take great pleasure in it.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I don' think or understand how he could know he was going to run over his brother when he was dodging bullets in the middle of a gunfight. I do not believe that was intentional.

I dont either.

But his actions.
So he will have to live with it.

Know what I mean?

 

[gngr~snap]

http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/bombing-suspects-mother-this-is-a-set-up/

“What I can say is I am really sure, I am like 100-percent sure that this is a set-up,” the woman said. “My two sons are really innocent, and I know that neither of them never, never have talked about whatever they’re saying about now, and what I want to say is … my youngest one was raised actually … from 8 years, he was raised in America, and my oldest son, he is like really, really proper raised in our house, never, nobody talked about terrorism.”

I guess she just does not like America.
This is what one girl said about the mother.

"But she became increasingly uncomfortable going to the apartment because of Z's growing religious fervor.
"She started quoting conspiracy theories, telling me that she thought 9-11 was purposefully created by the American government to make America hate Muslims," she wrote.
Z told her: "It's real. My son knows all about it. You can read it on the Internet."
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/19/us/massachusetts-bombers-profiles/index.html

...she only met Tamerlan once -- he wasn't friendly, she thought."