Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #9 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

[absentia]

Per Fox. Zubeidat details the health problems that prevented Anzor's travel today: head and stomach (because of nerves) and high blood pressure.

big surprise.

 

[jjenny]

they wavered about releasing the pix. I wonder if it was some sort of social media experiment.

I presume at first they run facial recognition software (which didn't pick anyone) then only released the photos.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/2...g-two-fellow-students-boston-bombing-suspect/

Immigration officials holding two fellow students of Boston bombing suspect

The two men were identified to Fox News as Dias Kadyrbayev and Azamat Tazhayakov, both citizens of Kazakhstan. They can be seen standing next to Tsarnaev in a photo believed to have been taken in April 2012 in Times Square, which authorities suspect was another of the bombers' intended targets.

 

[21merc7]

Agreed. This is what bothers me. This makes the FBI look weak, IMO, but I do want to give them the benefit of a doubt, at the same time. I'm so conflicted! If I allow myself to criticize the FBI, then I have to admit that we are really not that safe.

It just boggles my mind that the FBI asked the public for help in identifying the suspects, when they had already investigated one of them!

No one could i.d. the perps from the photos. They were grainy. Who knows if the perps had identification in the system or not. It could have taken years to i.d. via photo.

The photos were released to the public b/c the public could respond rapidly. Doesn't meant they would be identified rapidly. The photos could have taken years to identify via tips. These 2 were just fated to instant recog.

Computers and info bases are not what everyone seems to think, there is nothing that is 30 seconds fast like t.v. Grainy means no. No photo in DMV, no photo in Criminal Data base, means no photo to compare. Lots of people have no legal identification. Especially ones with a criminal lifestyle, but some without it.

There are weaknesses in every system, country. The internet, including this board, points them out to all. It is that easy now. A much different age then when we actually depended on newspaper with bad ink, and 6 O'clock weather. Much different.

Simply means be more aware.

 

[absentia]

Small correction - the Jamestown Foundation actually appears to be *supportive* of the anti-Russian rebels in the caucuses region (or, at least the ones that are not Islamist, but more nationalistic; I haven't dug down that deep yet lol). But yes, very neo-con in the sense of extremely hawkish towards middle eastern Muslim nations, and hard-line pro-Israel. And now their president in writing in the WSJ urging us to get more involved in the caucuses region. :what:

In state tuition/resident to UMASS is not expensive. just FYI.

 

[ami]

Thank you! Doesn't look very good for KR right now. My opinion: there's no excuse for doing what she allegedly did (warning them).



Hi Myster! :seeya: re the bolded paragraph: acc to Greta's interview linked above she did not call to ask him "what's going on?" but clearly to give them a heads up.



Over the last week I have heard several experts on CNN doubting very much that the brothers pulled this off alone. I tend to believe them. And today was reported that the trigger they used was NOT described in the Inspire manual online, so how did they learn that?





respectfully snipped for space

21merc7, yes, AlwaysShocked is right, I was refferring to the uncles. That's why I used their name, Tsarni, instead of the family's original name Tsarnaev. Sorry for the confusion! Of course I don't think the two bomb suspects are "okay"!

But what do you mean by "world news would be helpful"? I'm watching CNN and read several online news outlets.

Okay I get that it's possible they didn't act alone - but a) what proof is there of another person? and b) which part could they not have pulled off by themselves. I think speculation is just that, until there is a link, data, information, a thread to pull.

The Inspire manual is one of thousands of such manuals and instructional guides online! My gosh, they've profiled dozens in the days since the bombings. Why are we thinking they could only have gotten all their information from a single place online, the Inspire manual, and nowhere else?

 

[laura08]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...arathon-bombing-double-amputee_n_3164330.html

When Boston Marathon bombing victim Jeff Bauman heard that one of the two suspects in the attack had died, he was first coming to grips with the fact that he lost both legs.

"What I thought was, 'He's dead and I'm still here,'" Bauman told Boston radio station WEEI.

Bauman, 27, had been waiting at the marathon finish line April 15 to cheer on his girlfriend when the bombs went off. But he told WEEI that even before the explosions occurred, he sensed something was amiss with one of the other spectators.

"I was with my girlfriend's roommates and we were having a great time," he said. "Just that one guy, he didn't look like he was having a good time. He was standing right next to me. … He was just an odd guy . . . The next thing you know, I hear fireworks and I'm on the ground."

Bauman was later reported as having aided the FBI in identifying the suspects.

"For the first suspect they just took my description," Bauman told WEEI. "They thought I saw the second suspect and they had a sketch artist come in [to the hospital] maybe on Wednesday.

When Bauman looked down to see that his legs had been blown off, he says he mainly felt "sad. . Sad that someone would actually do that."

 

[Just K]

Re: The American wife calling and tipping off the bombers. Is this not aiding and abetting? Not that she will ever be prosecuted, but it is what it is. What she should have done was to call LE. And so should everyone else who instantly recognized them.

No wonder the security at her parents' home has been increased! And yes, I agree, this action of hers directly led to the murder of that police officer. How differently things would/could have gone down had her call been made to police who could have surrounded the apartment.

By the way, the photo of the table in the bomber's apartment, showing plates of half-eaten food left on the table made it clear that SOMEONE had contacted them and they left in a big hurry. It was only a matter of time until we found out who tipped them off....

I thought she was working that night. Maybe she and the patient she worked with were watching TV. Guess they have to check any cell or landline at that home as well.

 

[jjenny]

Okay I get that it's possible they didn't act alone - but a) what proof is there of another person? and b) which part could they not have pulled off by themselves. I think speculation is just that, until there is a link, data, information, a thread to pull.

The Inspire manual is one of thousands of such manuals and instructional guides online! My gosh, they've profiled dozens in the days since the bombings. Why are we thinking they could only have gotten all their information from a single place online, the Inspire manual, and nowhere else?

ITA. Both of them were apparently close to the bombs when bombs exploded. It really wouldn't make sense for someone else to use the remote.

 

[CARIIS]

Oh, my goodness if we all do not know this:the government knew a hell of a lot more about TT then they are admitting.
...........by now WMD - set all this off. And it was a lie!

 

[CARIIS]

Do you have a link to it? I'll try to translate it.

Keep us posted please!

 

[21merc7]

respectfully snipped for space

21merc7, yes, AlwaysShocked is right, I was refferring to the uncles. That's why I used their name, Tsarni, instead of the family's original name Tsarnaev. Sorry for the confusion! Of course I don't think the two bomb suspects are "okay"!

But what do you mean by "world news would be helpful"? I'm watching CNN and read several online news outlets.

I meant no offense. I thought you meant the brothers were no harm when clearly they are.

CNN is what I am saying is not enough. One country reports one thing, another country another. The reports are meant to keep the citizens of the individual countries calm or to incite. I don't know how to say it right, but the public only is told so much. The news does not tell us all. Look beyond and farther.


I apologize for my abruptness. It is how I respond. I'm not one for soft and comfy, guess it is part my job, and part my life. No offense intended! I was asking and reacting at the same time.

 

[deoneta]

In state tuition/resident to UMASS is not expensive. just FYI.

$22,000 minimum with a $2500 scholarship. I keep reading that used Mercedes, knock off designer duds, athletic equipment, travel back and forth to Russia, pressure cookers, fireworks, etc. are not expensive. I must be even poorer than I thought.

 

[absentia]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/2...g-two-fellow-students-boston-bombing-suspect/

Immigration officials holding two fellow students of Boston bombing suspect

The two men were identified to Fox News as Dias Kadyrbayev and Azamat Tazhayakov, both citizens of Kazakhstan. They can be seen standing next to Tsarnaev in a photo believed to have been taken in April 2012 in Times Square, which authorities suspect was another of the bombers' intended targets.

yes. I thought there were others being held. I wonder if these were the same as the 3 who were taken into custody during the search on Friday from a house where LE initially thought they got DT.

 

[sorrell skye]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...arathon-bombing-double-amputee_n_3164330.html

When Boston Marathon bombing victim Jeff Bauman heard that one of the two suspects in the attack had died, he was first coming to grips with the fact that he lost both legs.

"What I thought was, 'He's dead and I'm still here,'" Bauman told Boston radio station WEEI.

Bauman, 27, had been waiting at the marathon finish line April 15 to cheer on his girlfriend when the bombs went off. But he told WEEI that even before the explosions occurred, he sensed something was amiss with one of the other spectators.

"I was with my girlfriend's roommates and we were having a great time," he said. "Just that one guy, he didn't look like he was having a good time. He was standing right next to me. … He was just an odd guy . . . The next thing you know, I hear fireworks and I'm on the ground."

Bauman was later reported as having aided the FBI in identifying the suspects.

"For the first suspect they just took my description," Bauman told WEEI. "They thought I saw the second suspect and they had a sketch artist come in [to the hospital] maybe on Wednesday.

When Bauman looked down to see that his legs had been blown off, he says he mainly felt "sad. . Sad that someone would actually do that."

TY for this article Laura!

Can you imagine having fun one minute, and the very next minute, you're looking down at where your legs used to be and, instead of seeing your legs, you see your bones sticking out & your flesh torn & your arteries spurting blood?

God bless Jeff. I'm so glad that Carlos (God bless him, too!) was there to help save him.

 

[ThinkHard]

Welcome!
You know up till about 20 years ago I would probably call my friend as well, but not today. I would be thinking of a way to delete my # from their phone.

No that part has not been talked about that I have seen/read, (why they went to MIT). You bring up a valid point though. Why were they there?

True....BUT this wasnt KT's friend......it was her HUSBAND .....

Just imagine for two seconds you are sitting there watching the 5 o'clock news and your husbands face pops up on TV saying he's wanted for questioning.....what would be your first instinct?

I think most people NORMAL first response would be to call their husband, like I thin 2 seconds, without thinking too much into it.

I don't think many people would think "oh my husbands face is on TV, he must be guilty, let me call the FBI" . I'm just being realistic, in that moment, I think instinct would be to pick up your phone and hit your speed dial.

Did she end up tipping him off... Probably, but I don't exactly think her intention was to tip him off so he could flee and evade the FBI.

After some thought should she have perhaps contacted the FBI, perhaps. But not doing it could have been more about denial and confusion then aiding and abetting.

I don't really think we should start placing the blame of Sean's death on the shoulders of KT just yet. (And I say that as someone who has a personal connection to Sean, and knows a former roommate of his, so I am in no way trivializing the cold blooded way Sean's life was taken).

 

[ami]

$22,000 minimum with a $2500 scholarship. I keep reading that used Mercedes, knock off designer duds, athletic equipment, travel back and forth to Russia, pressure cookers, fireworks, etc. are not expensive. I must be even poorer than I thought.

I just asked a student sitting here in my office at UmassD and he says he pays $6400 a year, after scholarships, fellowships and work-study.

 

[ami]

yes. I thought there were others being held. I wonder if these were the same as the 3 who were taken into custody during the search on Friday from a house where LE initially thought they got DT.

I think so. There were two young men and a young woman taken in for questioning, then released, then later the same two young men were brought in again and held.

 

[absentia]

$22,000 minimum with a $2500 scholarship. I keep reading that used Mercedes, knock off designer duds, athletic equipment, travel back and forth to Russia, pressure cookers, fireworks, etc. are not expensive. I must be even poorer than I thought.

$11,600 tuition only. very reasonable in this day and age.
$22k is with room & board. that's also reasonable.
besides, you can fully finance tuition with student loans.
http://www.umassd.edu/undergraduate/financing/tuitionandfees/

don't confuse UMASS Dartmouth with Dartmouth.

 

[absentia]

I think so. There were two young men and a young woman taken in for questioning, then released, then later the same two young men were brought in again and held.

that's what I thought. and LE initially thought one of them was DT, or that DT was in the house.