Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #9 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

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For the record:
Re: KRT
My point is that she has chosen one of the most conservative forms of Islamic attire. It appears, the only thing she doesn't cover is her hands and part of her face. Just an observation...meaning among the many choices for Islamic women, from western or popular current fashion, to a simple scarf, a more elaborate hijab (covering the head and neck,) to a hijab & long heavy & layered clothing down to covering the toes, and finally to cover everything except her eyes...she chose the 2nd most conservative.

Point here is that she obviously believes that she as a woman, as opposed to men, ought to be covering 90+% of her body as a gesture, IMO of modesty.

Of course that is a personal choice but it also reflects a more conservative belief of a woman's obligations within society as opposed to those of men.

Whether anyone else believes that what is good for the goose ought to be good for the gander doesn't really matter. But, at least with ZT and KRT neither of their husbands felt the need to wear traditional or conservative attire yet their wives do. It is just curious and especially curious when the woman has either gone the majority of her life wearing modern popular styles and either converts or becomes more committed to the beliefs.

It is just an observation.

On a personal note: I live in one of the most diverse urban areas of the country. In this US city, Anglo-Saxon/European decent citizens are the minority and even here, in this major metropolitan area, the full body coverings are still the minority. Just saying, KRT's belief's were more conservative.

MO, this whole conversation has been blown out of proportion. She can believe and dress any way she wants to...that is her choice. Personally, I don't give a rat's a## how she dresses. I am more concerned as to whether her views on jihad are leaning toward her husband's extremism.

bbm,
I totally agree with you. I personally find it silly, but that's just me.
 
I haven't been able to read as throughly here at WS this weekend.

But Norwegian media is reporting today that that the Russians had tapped TT and mother ZT's phones and they were discussing "holy war".

Is this correct?

The same is being reported in US.
 
...........militant/terrorist groups illicit drug business and
other illegal sources of funding are means to finance their armed struggle,
that is, they are a necessary but insufficient resource for advancing their
main political, religious, or ideological goals....

http://csis.org/files/media/csis/pubs/pm_0393.pdf

Political-military terrorist groups using drug money for self-financing,
particularly for the acquisition of arms, materials, and equipment ..............


http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/frontpage/drug-trafficking-and-the-financing-of-terrorism.html

We know the younger was obtaining and smoking frequently and early accounts of older one when younger (that is a sentence!) have surfaced.

No way to explain event nor funding to purchase it for personal use.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/u...lan-tsarnaev-reeled.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0&hp

NY Times very interesting & thorough article on TT.

Tamerlan Anzorovich Tsarnaev, 23, was barred from the national Tournament of Champions because he was not a United States citizen.


The cocksure fighter, a flamboyant dresser partial to white fur and snakeskin, had been looking forward to redeeming the loss he suffered the previous year in the first round, when the judges awarded his opponent the decision, drawing boos from spectators who considered Mr. Tsarnaev dominant.
 
What I don't understand is why there was a "Be On the Look out" for that car,the next day? Didn't they have it in their custody? I'm confused.

I think it was just confusion that had the BOLO for the green sedan. I was driving to Boston Logan airport that Friday, mid-day, and the BOLO was announced on NPR and started appearing on highway digital signs. I know this was when it was announced because I started scanning the highway for green Hondas and saw that green Honda sedans were everywhere!! lol

And by the time I was driving home a couple of hours later, the BOLO had been retracted. NPR was reporting that police withdrew the BOLO for the green sedan. However, as I flipped stations, radio DJs and radio news was still repeating it pretty urgently: "green honda sedan!" -- I guess it took a while for everyone to be on the same page about the update.

There was also a short time when the news said that it was a gray Honda that had evidence of occupation by one of the bombers (I have no idea if they got the color wrong in the reporting, or if they mistakenly/correctly identified a third car used by #1 and #2)

My guess is that because the search was still in progress, in the confusion of the shootout and manhunt, there was a time when everyone wasn't communicating well.
 
Re the green Honda... Dzhokhar & Tamerlan both had Hondas. There was an article that mentioned the cars on file with DMV that were registered to their DL's were Hondas. 2 different older model Hondas, not a Mercedes, BMW, or other luxury car.
 
Jesus, talk about covert operations... Now I don't know what to think bc one thing I was hugely against was the whole Halliburton deal in Iraq. Doesn't it encompass most of where the USA is in the Middle East? Something's most definitely shady.
 
I think it was just confusion that had the BOLO for the green sedan. I was driving to Boston Logan airport that Friday, mid-day, and the BOLO was announced on NPR and started appearing on highway digital signs. I know this was when it was announced because I started scanning the highway for green Hondas and saw that green Honda sedans were everywhere!! lol

And by the time I was driving home a couple of hours later, the BOLO had been retracted. NPR was reporting that police withdrew the BOLO for the green sedan. However, as I flipped stations, radio DJs and radio news was still repeating it pretty urgently: "green honda sedan!" -- I guess it took a while for everyone to be on the same page about the update.

There was also a short time when the news said that it was a gray Honda that had evidence of occupation by one of the bombers (I have no idea if they got the color wrong in the reporting, or if they mistakenly/correctly identified a third car used by #1 and #2)

My guess is that because the search was still in progress, in the confusion of the shootout and manhunt, there was a time when everyone wasn't communicating well.

Scratch that last paragraph - it's more likely LE was told the suspects were in the carjacked Mercedes, didn't (at the time of the shootout) realize the other car #1 and #2 were hiding behind in the shootout was their own Honda, then during the search for #2 (amid reports he might be headed to New York or Connecticut - remember at the time they were shutting down the trains out of Boston to these places) they discovered he/they owned a green Honda, issued the BOLO, then realized it was the car in Watertown.
 
For the record:
Re: KRT
My point is that she has chosen one of the most conservative forms of Islamic attire. It appears, the only thing she doesn't cover is her hands and part of her face. Just an observation...meaning among the many choices for Islamic women, from western or popular current fashion, to a simple scarf, a more elaborate hijab (covering the head and neck,) to a hijab & long heavy & layered clothing down to covering the toes, and finally to cover everything except her eyes...she chose the 2nd most conservative.

Point here is that she obviously believes that she as a woman, as opposed to men, ought to be covering 90+% of her body as a gesture, IMO of modesty.

respectfully snipped for space :)

There was an article a couple of days ago saying that TT called her "prostitute" and other names.

Three of Katherine Russell's pals at Suffolk University watched as she was terrorized by the dead bombing suspect after they began their on-and-off relationship in 2007, NPR reported.

Angry and controlling, Tsarnaev called Russell a "🤬🤬🤬🤬" and a "prostitute" and was known to throw furniture or other objects at her during fits of rage, the unnamed roommates said.


This manipulative behaviour might well have led to her wearing a very conservative attire - just to please him and escape his abuse.

More here: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...stitute-courtship-roommates-article-1.1325216
 
“Given the level of sophistication of this [explosive] device, the fact that the pressure cooker is a signature device that goes back to Pakistan and Afghanistan … leads me to believe there was a trainer,” Rep. Michael T. McCaul, Texas Republican, told “Fox News Sunday.”



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/28/rep-mccaul-bombing-suspects-had-help/

“Right out of the box, U.S. officials anonymously are saying there is no foreign connection to this case when in fact the FBI just began its investigation into this case,” he said. “And yet the narrative played out by some in the administration is that, no, there’s no foreign connection.”

“I reserve judgment until all the evidence comes in.”
 
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/national_world&id=9081960

Document suggests Boston suspects had outside help

BOSTON -- ABC News has obtained a government document suggesting for the first time that the two Boston Marathon bombing suspects may have had outside help.

Investigators are increasingly suspicious that the Tsarnaev brothers had to have had technical advice to build their bombs.

A government document obtained by ABC News says the alleged bombers likely knew more about bomb making than they could have learned from the al Qaeda magazine "Inspire."

That raises the specter that older brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, might have been trained in more advanced bomb making on a trip he made to Russia.

just what I thought. of course he did.
 
I haven't been able to read as throughly here at WS this weekend.

But Norwegian media is reporting today that that the Russians had tapped TT and mother ZT's phones and they were discussing "holy war".

Is this correct?

that is correct. it's a few pages back - 3 or 4 I think.
 
Why has Russell been made infamous not for her connection to the alleged bomber as his spouse or for a crime herself, but for her status as a convert? Why did Russell lose her "All-American girl" title once she became Muslim? ... The portrayal of Russell as abnormal, an aberration exemplifying a fall from American grace, serves only to further the marginalization and alienation of Muslims in the U.S


Totally agree and IMO, the same thing is happening with the "welfare" angle as well.

Thank you for posting this, Cariis. Couldn't agree more with everything you said.
 
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