Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #9 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

[Jersey*Girl]

Wonder who she was sending money to that went unclaimed...not that it was a large amount, only wondering. Anytime I've ever sent money Western Inion, I've waited for confirmation that it was picked up. Common to WU kids money, wonder if it was to her daughters or another relative?

 

[CARIIS]

Ha, I am gonna use a bit bigger font eye strain! Wish it were set bigger!

You know what guys. He had representation from the very first second of contact with officials. I bet all of the last week “cooperating” was a well thought out defense strategy, IMO.


Think about it ---- he got out all the big stuff out and quickly. I participated. I cooperated. By doing so he effectively has prevented any of those admissions to be used against because they were given before Miranda.

He was a citizen, he had to take a test, it is not credible to believe that he did not know about self-incrimination UNTIL they read him his rights.

This has all been game, and sadly, he played it correctly.

Everything we think he communicated cannot be used against him. ...........
Notions?

 

[CARIIS]

Don't forget the Russians didn't ask him to be investigated as a warning to the US; it was because he had traveled back to their country they were concerned.
I agree, there motivation for involving us was only in their interest. They wanted to see if we could find out inform regarding a possible attack on thier country. IMO.

 

[CARIIS]

Here's the thing for me: Russia's Federal Security Service asked the FBI to look into Tamerlan Tsarnaev back in 2011. From this article:

The FBI opened an investigation of Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011 at the behest of Russian officials who expressed concern that he was becoming radicalized and could be planning an attack in Russia.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...d426de-addb-11e2-8bf6-e70cb6ae066e_story.html

What I want to know is why Russian officials were concerned back in 2011 that Tamerlan was becoming radicalized & could have been planning an attack in Russia?

Putin may or not be posturing now, but I'm curious as to why Tamerlan was in Russia's crosshairs 2 years ago. I think there's much more to this backstory on Tamerlan & his family. Hopefully, trustworthy information will come out soon, explaining why Russia was suspicious of Tamerlan. He attracted their attention for a reason, IMO.

As it turns out, their concerns weren't unfounded, except that the terrorist attack occurred on US soil, and not Russian soil.

It is my understanding that that part of the world has a LONG history of terrorist attacks within Russia. WHere they lived has been terrorizing Russia for years.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Ha, I am gonna use a bit bigger font eye strain! Wish it were set bigger!

You know what guys. He had representation from the very first second of contact with officials. I bet all of the last week “cooperating” was a well thought out defense strategy, IMO.


Think about it ---- he got out all the big stuff out and quickly. I participated. I cooperated. By doing so he effectively has prevented any of those admissions to be used against because they were given before Miranda.

He was a citizen, he had to take a test, it is not credible to believe that he did not know about self-incrimination UNTIL they read him his rights.

This has all been game, and sadly, he played it correctly.

Everything we think he communicated cannot be used against him. ...........
Notions?

He didnt have to be mirandized I thought. It wasn't a necessity in this situation I thought. Gosh it's so confusing. Idk but I researched some of the Miranda laws when it was being talked about and I found several sites that said its not something that is absolute like we citizens are led to believe. Hopefully Gitana can chime on with her knowledge bc I don't know, only an educated guess at best for what I found on the net.

 

[CARIIS]

Maybe they allowed him back in so they could check him out further - it would make sense that he would be in contact with the groups who have committed terrorist acts on their (Russia) land for decades.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/26/us/boston-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Boston bombing suspects' family leaves Dagestan home, not coming to the U.S.

The parents of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects have left their home in Dagestan for another part of Russia, the suspects' mother Zubeidat Tsarnaev told CNN Friday. She said the suspects' father, Anzor Tsarnaev, is delaying his trip to the United States indefinitely.

Meanwhile in Boston, their son Dzhokhar, the surviving bombing suspect, was transported to a federal detention center hospital, a federal law enforcement official said Friday. His brother and alleged co-conspirator Tamerlan was killed in a gun battle with police last week.


bbm,http://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/dev/

 

[CARIIS]

Too many links to terrorist activity to be benign. He has to be involved with some other group. How many lone terrorist are there that are so radicalized, travel to areas of terrorism, twice removed from other terrorists, etc?? Not just some lone nut job

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IMo, it seems they have established his terror stuff. I beleive the govt interest now is FUNDING -did someone or some group (that we can then go bomb em all up = kill for killing) pay to bomb Boston.

I think they did it solo- by that I mean no sponsered stuff.

Drug dealing IMO, easily explains the funding questions - by its nature its under the radar in and of itself.

 

[CARIIS]

FBI should have been able to investigate what he was doing in US once he came back. Sounds like they didn't even bother or didn't even know he came back because the alert expired. Why are these alerts set to expire so quickly? It doesn't make any sense.

Think about tho. There are so many of these folks that need to be on lists. IMO, when they are removed so to speak IMO is because they have not found anything. They did not find anything, Russians did not find anything, he has family over in that part of the world. They did attempt to rap it up by suggusting he be placed on that list and further monitored.

 

[hockeymom]

Question, if you read the account of the carjack victim, I see nothing about him laying on the street and then being asked to remove his clothes and being led away naked in handcuffs. Sounds like police came directly to the mobile station. So who was the guy I saw laying on the ground and then later naked and led away in handcuffs? I thought we were discussing that it was the carjack victim and LE wanted to make sure he was legit. He says nothing of that in his account.

 

[boston_baby]

Meanwhile in Boston, their son Dzhokhar, the surviving bombing suspect, was transported to a federal detention center hospital, a federal law enforcement official said Friday. His brother and alleged co-conspirator Tamerlan was killed in a gun battle with police last week.

Too bad the next stop isn't Guantanamo

 

[ami]

Ha, I am gonna use a bit bigger font eye strain! Wish it were set bigger!

You know what guys. He had representation from the very first second of contact with officials. I bet all of the last week “cooperating” was a well thought out defense strategy, IMO.


Think about it ---- he got out all the big stuff out and quickly. I participated. I cooperated. By doing so he effectively has prevented any of those admissions to be used against because they were given before Miranda.

He was a citizen, he had to take a test, it is not credible to believe that he did not know about self-incrimination UNTIL they read him his rights.

This has all been game, and sadly, he played it correctly.

Everything we think he communicated cannot be used against him. ...........
Notions?

I think you're giving him far too much credit here.

He is on video and in still shots dropping the backpack that exploded. His face is fully visible. His brother was face to face identified as dropping the second backpack that exploded at the legs of JB, whose legs were subsequently blown off. He's seen leaving the bomb site. He's found to have explosives in his home. He's on camera approaching the MIT cop they killed. He kidnapped and carjacked an eye witness, still alive, who can ID him. He is then captured on video and in still shots by LE and scores of citizens of Watertown hunkered behind a car shooting at cops, and throwing a pressure cooker bomb. He is captured on video and still shots running through a police barricade (and for all we know, in the video you can see him running over his brother).

Since he's been captured and interrogated, the only thing we know he's said is that 1) they weren't linked to a larger terror cell, 2) his brother made him do it/was the brains behind the operation, 3) it was because of Iraq and Afghanistan, and 4) they planned on heading to NY to bomb them next.

Because of the exemption I'm assuming the Miranda thing is not going to be as big an issue as it's being made out as now (they realized the ramifications of the Miranda timing before making their decision on how to proceed - this was deliberate). And even if they couldn't use any of his statements in court, I can't see how that could possibly outweigh the blatant full-face picture and evidence trail these two losers left for all to see.

 

[ami]

Question, if you read the account of the carjack victim, I see nothing about him laying on the street and then being asked to remove his clothes and being led away naked in handcuffs. Sounds like police came directly to the mobile station. So who was the guy I saw laying on the ground and then later naked and led away in handcuffs? I thought we were discussing that it was the carjack victim and LE wanted to make sure he was legit. He says nothing of that in his account.

I wondered the same thing! In reading his account in the article, he makes it sound like he was in the stockroom of the Mobil station across from the place the brothers stopped for gas when the police arrived.

 

[CARIIS]

Carjack victim recounts his harrowing night
http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/201...owing-night/BhQWGzarWee8MZ6KtMHJNN/story.html

Great stuff thanx!

 

[deoneta]

Question, if you read the account of the carjack victim, I see nothing about him laying on the street and then being asked to remove his clothes and being led away naked in handcuffs. Sounds like police came directly to the mobile station. So who was the guy I saw laying on the ground and then later naked and led away in handcuffs? I thought we were discussing that it was the carjack victim and LE wanted to make sure he was legit. He says nothing of that in his account.

Everybody thought the carjack victim and the naked guy were the same guy. Not so. The naked guy was apparently a bystander caught up in the drama, perhaps because he didn't cooperate when asked to move out of the area or because of his appearance--that's not known at this point. He was arrested, but released not long afterwards.

 

[stmarysmead]

Think about tho. There are so many of these folks that need to be on lists. IMO, when they are removed so to speak IMO is because they have not found anything. They did not find anything, Russians did not find anything, he has family over in that part of the world. They did attempt to rap it up by suggusting he be placed on that list and further monitored.

No, sadly, I do not believe they "didn't find anything." I think someone did THE MINIMUM in checking these guys out and then the ball was dropped altogether. Yawn.

Don't upset people.

Not interested.

War on Terror ALL OVER or never existed.

It is like social services and abused children. There is a tension between "rights", sensitivity, and protecting the innocent. How many helpless children go back to abusive parents and end up dead? Only then, do we investigate the agencies and individuals who made the mistake. Then....we forget.

We should all care about why , AFTER the fact, we find out things like Russia contacting us numerous times about this family. SO WHAT if Russia was concerned that their radical Islamist views might be a problem for them! DUH! They have also been a problem for US...9-11, FtHood, Shoe-bomber etc. It is a disgrace that this was blown off.

And already two of their friends, here on student visas...are found NOT to be students at all. How much abuse in that program? All discovered AFTER the fact. When are we going to start naming and firing the gov employees who do not do their jobs and follow up on these things? Just as we do with child victims and social services? Dead babies? Well we have dead and maimed here! Clean up our disfunctional bureaucracy. Insist that people who do not do their job be replaced.

 

[deoneta]

From my own post:

No. he's clammed up now. This information came while FBI was interviewing him. A magistrate, US attorney and 2 Federal public defenders surprised FBI by showing up at the hospital with the complaint and read him his rights. He's stopped talking with the FBI only able to question him for 16 hours. Ridiculous. And no, it can't be used against him, but they got enough on him without his statements. The idea was to get further information. We can forget about that now.

This is according to CNN and Fox. Everything DT said was before he was mirandized. The FBI were not given any warning that their questioning would be halted. Whether anything he said can be used against him isn't clear, but all the legal analysts seem to say it can't be. This questioning was under the public safety exemption of Miranda rights, but it was said from the first that whatever he said couldn't be admitted in court. The FBI wanted the full 48 hours of questioning, but only got to question him for 16 hours.

 

[CARIIS]

Touching pic about Jeff

Jeff Bauman - Google Search

 

[CARIIS]

RE: Another set of lying parents! Or lying children - I found it interesting to note that younger grades plummetted as he IMO, was spiraling out by the stressers of his IMO, brothers pressure:.


Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had done well academically in high school, but The New York Times reported that he was failing many of his courses at UMass Dartmouth. The Times said a school transcript showed seven failing grades over two semesters in 2012 and 2013

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...thon-bomber/8gbczia4qBiWMAP0SQhViO/story.html

 

[SurfieTX]

Tamerlan Tsarnaev attended a NGO “Fund of Caucasus” workshop sponsored by the US Jamestown Foundation, Russian newspaper Izvestia reported yesterday.

The Russian cites documents produced by the Counterintelligence Department Ministry of Internal Affairs of Georgia confirming that the NGO “Fund of Caucasus” held workshops in the summer of 2012 and Tsarnaev attended.

The Caucasus Fund was established in November, 2008, following the Georgian-Ossetian conflict. The main purpose of the organization, according to Izvestia, is “to recruit young people and intellectuals of the North Caucasus to enhance instability and extremism in the southern regions of Russia.”

Moscow has explicitly criticized the Jamestown Foundation for engaging in an anti-Russian propaganda campaign. “Organizers again and again resorted to deliberately spreading slander about the situation in Chechnya and other republics of the Russian North Caucasus using the services of supporters of terrorists and pseudo-experts. Speakers were given carte blanche to spread extremist propaganda, [and] incite ethnic and inter-religious discord,” said the Foreign Ministry of Russia in December, 2007.

http://inserbia.info/news/2013/04/c...lan-tsarnaev-attended-cia-sponsored-workshop/