Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #9 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

[CARIIS]

The ones they bought came from Macys, true. But to my knowledge, it hasn't been ruled out that one PC used could have come from their own kitchen as well--since there were so many. I've not heard the final count on how many PCs were used/recovered vs. how many were on the purchase receipt--anyone hear about this? (Also can't remember the date of the purchase receipt...)

I think they concluded that some of the reports that day about other devices turned out to be untrue.

I think we are coming up with 6 becasue shootout night the intial report was 6 which was then changed to 1 pressure cooker and 5 pipe bombs.

 

[CARIIS]

Yep, all the time. They're the best way to make rice, because they can get nice and hot without boiling over and vent out the small hole in the top. I've actually got a pot of rice going in my pressure cooker on my stove as we speak. My mother (first generation Greek immigrant) uses them constantly and mine is just like hers. In fact I'd say besides my cast iron frying pan, it's my most used piece of kitchen ware. And I'm in my late 30's, but I've had mine since before my daughter was born... so probably 20 years, since I first lived alone.

(also, I do know all my sisters have them because they always say mine is nicer & they joke about stealing it when they come over - mine has a nice heavy bottom and a really secure seal and they don't make them as well these days...)

Yep, all the time. They're the best way to make rice, because they can get nice and hot without boiling over and vent out the small hole in the top. I've actually got a pot of rice going in my pressure cooker on my stove as we speak
Ok quick we want your DNA suspect!

 

[Nova]

I am struck that I have used and heard the term "pressure cooker" for all of my 59 years.

And I have no idea what one is. Language is funny.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

I think they concluded that some of the reports that day about other devices turned out to be untrue.

I think we are coming up with 6 becasue shootout night the intial report was 6 which was then changed to 1 pressure cooker and 5 pipe bombs.

Well, Just K mentioned above that it was reported there were 6 pressure cookers on a Macy's receipt...it's a muddle. I'll have to search for links, though I doubt they've reported all the specifics (or accurately reported them, for that matter)...

 

[CARIIS]

Pressure cookers ! NOt the first time they have been used in this fashion


The smaller version of the appliance has been adapted as a crude type of bomb which has been used in terrorist attacks.[15]
2006 Mumbai train bombings
2010 Stockholm bombings (failed to explode)
2010 Times Square car bombing attempt (failed to explode)
2013 Boston Marathon bombings

Wiko forgot link.

 

[ontariolynn]

I don't know if she's an average joe or not, but she lawyered up pretty quick.

Not to be rude, but her Father is a Doctor, and her Mother is a nurse, so I would have to assume, that they have good paying jobs, and they have a very nice home just by seeing the pictures of the outside on TV, does not look that small, so I would have to say that they have the means to try to protect their daughter at this time, I still can not understand her arrangement with TT, not saying she is guilty at all, just confused, by only what the media is telling us.

 

[Elainera]

And if it was determined to match KT's (KR's) DNA, one would hope the matched DNA is on something other than the pressure cooker itself. For all we know, one of the several pressure cookers used for bomb-making could've come from TT & KT's kitchen, and the DNA on it from her putting it away after washing it. Unless she's got DNA on the circuit board or some other component, her DNA on part of one pressure cooker is not all that incriminating (if it's only on one bomb, and if it's a pressure cooker bomb).

Ok now I have to ask you all: how can DNA get on anything just by touching it? Or by washing and putting a pot away? Unless you have a cut on your finger, or you just licked your fingers before touching the pot ... I just can't think of a way someone's DNA got on the PC, other than from some of the victims (blood spatter), that would make much more sense.

If it does turn out to be her DNA (I doubt it, honestly), FBI would have a good reason to demand an interview at their offices. I guess.

And re presser cookers in general, they are very very common here in India, as someone else said, they help keeping the temperature inside low because cooking time is substantially reduced. But as you all, I'm scared of them and never use them. My husband used to sometimes try ours out but somehow that thing never worked properly and all we had was a big mess on the stove :floorlaugh:

 

[CARIIS]

Year

Acts

Killed

Wounded



2004

NA

NA

NA



2003

208

625

3646



2002

199

725

2013



2001

346

3547

1080



2000

423

405

791



1999

392

233

706



1998

273

741

5952



1997

304

221

693



1996

296

311

2652



1995

440

165

6291

 

[Elainera]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-bombers-widow-sample-DNA-woman-devices.html

What's in the evidence bags? (second picture)

 

[CARIIS]

I think all the stuff , IMO, with the wife is only the agencies trying to cover their butts.....we are 14 days out if they thought she had invovlemtn I think this would have been moved up the list of interviews/ JMO

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Ok now I have to ask you all: how can DNA get on anything just by touching it? Or by washing and putting a pot away? Unless you have a cut on your finger, or you just licked your fingers before touching the pot ... I just can't think of a way someone's DNA got on the PC, other than from some of the victims (blood spatter), that would make much more sense.

If it does turn out to be her DNA (I doubt it, honestly), FBI would have a good reason to demand an interview at their offices. I guess.

And re presser cookers in general, they are very very common here in India, as someone else said, they help keeping the temperature inside low because cooking time is substantially reduced. But as you all, I'm scared of them and never use them. My husband used to sometimes try ours out but somehow that thing never worked properly and all we had was a big mess on the stove :floorlaugh:

The wsj article itself mentioned how a hair could fall into it (yeah, yuk) as a woman is handling it/putting it away, or fingerprints (or even skin particles, I suppose) could get on it by handling as well. They only need a microscopic amount, now.

 

[jjenny]

Re: the taking of KT's DNA and article below...


You know, it sounds to me more like a ramping-up pressure tactic. They took her DNA to try to make her nervous, IMO. I mean, if the presence of the female DNA is already admitted to not necessarily mean said female helped in the attack, then why would they take her sample? It won't be conclusive.

At the very least we should wait to see whose DNA is found before deciding if its incriminating or not.

 

[SophieRose]

I can't see how it would take this long for a warrant, she was married to the man and per a neighbor he visited her on weekends at her parents home. Not sure where she really lived, but I don't think it was at the apartment in Cambridge, not full time anyway. Something is screwey here!

Her attorney has said tha she lived at the Cambridge apartment.

She probably lived with her parents when TT spent the six months in Russia.

 

[jjenny]

I think all the stuff , IMO, with the wife is only the agencies trying to cover their butts.....we are 14 days out if they thought she had invovlemtn I think this would have been moved up the list of interviews/ JMO

They can not interview her without her agreeing to an interview.
And from what has been reported, they have been requesting to interview her from the start.

 

[jjenny]

Her attorney has said tha she lived at the Cambridge apartment.

She probably lived with her parents when TT spent the six months in Russia.

I am not at all sure as to where she lived per her attorney.
I believe we also have statements from him indicating she lived was parents/child lived with TT.

 

[CARIIS]

US terror attacks 1970-2011 mapped:

The START Global Terrorism Database monitors terror attacks around the world - and has compiled details of each incident recorded since 1970


http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/data...apr/17/every-us-terror-attacks-since-1970-map

 

[Sillybilly]

Why are they calling her Ms Russell?

IMO, it's a psychological ploy by the FBI to make her think they are not considering her as close to the perp as she was.

As for the lawyer saying KT is doing everything to help, IMO that's lawyer-speak without really giving us anything at all (i.e. aren't we all here thinking "say, what's that mean? :waitasec:")

MOO

 

[CARIIS]

You know, it sounds to me more like a ramping-up pressure tactic

I agree!

 

[Elley Mae]

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/boston...ed-crime-scene/story?id=19065936#.UX8GaUps98E

Boston Psychiatrist Wants Accused Bomber's Brain Studied Like a Crime Scene

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

At the very least we should wait to see whose DNA is found before deciding if its incriminating or not.

JMOHO, but I think the reverse is true. Decide if the evidence is important and causally connected enough to be incriminating, then take samples and match them to a 'suspect.' If they think the evidence is incriminating, they shouldn't discriminate, then, as to whether or not any person they've sampled who'd come in contact with the pressure cooker is suspicious enough or connected enough to the case to be named a suspect. That's fact-finding in reverse.

In other words, if they take DNA samples of KT and there is no match, but then they get a match from a saleslady at Macy's...does that 'prove' the saleslady helped make the bomb--or just that she'd come in contact with said pressure cooker?