Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #9 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

[CARIIS]

At the very least we should wait to see whose DNA is found before deciding if its incriminating or not.

But the only real two choices are they are or are no on the PC . Either way proves nothing and IMO can have no relevance when this finally makes it to trial sometime between 2021=2022!

 

[CARIIS]

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/boston...ed-crime-scene/story?id=19065936#.UX8GaUps98E

Boston Psychiatrist Wants Accused Bomber's Brain Studied Like a Crime Scene

Of course $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[Isabelle]

Yes, but if KT's DNA is found on any component...she will have some explaining; especially if it is an inside part or a discarded part of a component. She supposedly was at work so her DNA should not be found on anything retrieved at the marathon site- except maybe the outside of the pressure cooker or backpack which she could have innocently touched.

Hoping the batteries used were not some removed from a child's toy!

 

[Isabelle]

Just a quick question: Did any of you use pressure cookers when you were in your early 20's? Or for that matter, ever?

I, for one, have never used a pressure cooker. In my long life, I have only seen one in all the homes I've ever been in...and I was in catering for nine years.

Sometime ago I mentioned having an aunt who was using one in her kitchen when it exploded and injured her. I was young then, early teens, and have never had the desire to own a pressure cooker. Crockpot is more my speed!

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Ok now I have to ask you all: how can DNA get on anything just by touching it? Or by washing and putting a pot away? Unless you have a cut on your finger, or you just licked your fingers before touching the pot ... I just can't think of a way someone's DNA got on the PC, other than from some of the victims (blood spatter), that would make much more sense.

If it does turn out to be her DNA (I doubt it, honestly), FBI would have a good reason to demand an interview at their offices. I guess.

And re presser cookers in general, they are very very common here in India, as someone else said, they help keeping the temperature inside low because cooking time is substantially reduced. But as you all, I'm scared of them and never use them. My husband used to sometimes try ours out but somehow that thing never worked properly and all we had was a big mess on the stove :floorlaugh:

From skin cells left on the object.
It's called touch DNA.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_DNA

Touch DNA is a forensic method for analyzing DNA left at the scene of a crime. It is called "touch DNA" because it only requires very small samples, for example from the skin cells left on an object after it has been touched or casually handled. Touch DNA analysis only requires seven or eight cells from the outermost layer of human skin.

ETA: not sure why my link is not working. But a google search for "touch DNA" will explain it.

Lets try this one:

http://www.dnaforensics.com/touchdna.aspx

ETA: nope
Posting from my phone using tappatalk
Links are not working.

Sorry guys.

 

[Isabelle]

I had also read that Marathon finish medals were taken and authorities were worried that they would be sold online by thieves. :stormingmad:

How horrible is that! Animals adding insult to injury!

 

[CARIIS]

In 2010, 13,186 people died in terrorist attacks worldwide;

http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/15/more-americans-killed-by-guns-than-by-terrorists/

 

[Isabelle]

Her attorney has said tha she lived at the Cambridge apartment.

She probably lived with her parents when TT spent the six months in Russia.

Then there is the neighbor of her parents who said she lived with her parents with the toddler and TT visited on weekends!

 

[Elainera]

Thank you Kimberly and PiM! I didn't know that.

 

[Isabelle]

TT's body still not claimed!

 

[Elainera]

AC 360 life on the case now.

 

[four_seasons]

(CNN) -- Federal agents are looking into possible links between dead Boston Marathon bomb suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev and a Canadian boxer-turned-jihadist killed by Russian troops in 2012, a source being briefed on the investigation said Monday.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/29/us/boston-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

[Elainera]

TT's body still not claimed!

No not yet.

News is now that star attorney Judie Clark has joined DT's defence team to get the death penalty off the table. (on CNN AC 360)

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

From skin cells left on the object.
It's called touch DNA.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_DNA

Touch DNA is a forensic method for analyzing DNA left at the scene of a crime. It is called "touch DNA" because it only requires very small samples, for example from the skin cells left on an object after it has been touched or casually handled. Touch DNA analysis only requires seven or eight cells from the outermost layer of human skin.

ETA: not sure why my link is not working. But a google search for "touch DNA" will explain it.

Lets try this one:

http://www.dnaforensics.com/touchdna.aspx

ETA: nope
Posting from my phone using tappatalk
Links are not working.

Sorry guys.

Great link! Here's an excerpt from the forensics one:

Touch DNA refers to the DNA that is recovered from skin (epithelial) cells that is left behind when a person touches or comes into contact with items such as clothes, a weapon, or other objects. A person sheds about 400,000 skin cells per day, but it is the lower skin cells that will provide the best DNA profile. These cells are typically recovered when force is used such as on the victim's clothes or at a crime scene after a struggle has occurred.

These epithelial cells can be lifted with a tape, swabbed with a Q-tip, or even scraped from the clothes of the victim, or objects. Even food can be scraped for skin cells. According to the Bode Technology Lab, as little as 5 to 20 skin cells are all that is required to obtain a Touch DNA sample.
http://www.dnaforensics.com/touchdna.aspx

Makes me want to take a shower, lol.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/29/us/boston-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Yes, I think that's the 'Nidal' mentioned a couple pages back. Apparently they were both boxers, and also met up with each other at least 4x in Dagestan (sp?).

 

[Sillybilly]

I did and after like 5 times NEVER again. Forget terrorist (!) the thing is SCARY as far as burns.
You have to open this little thing, and let scalding hot steam slowly leak - a turn to much and it comes out at 8,787 mph!

Noones reflex is that fast ---noone

And the noise just sounds like a propane leask hissssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Funny actually! Whishhhhhhhhhhhh

Ouchh

When I was a kid, my mom was in a rush and opened the pressure cooker too soon, and WHOOSH ... the lid blew right past my head and made a huge hole in the wall. I only recall being intrigued with an entire ceiling covered in mashed potatoes.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Autopsy results apparently won't be released until KT claims the body:

Also on Monday, an autopsy on Tamerlan Tsarnaev determined precisely how he died after a bloody shootout with police but the results can't be made public until the body is claimed, a spokesman for the Massachusetts Medical Examiner said.

Authorities and the public have been waiting to learn whether Tsarnaev died in a hail of police bullets or when he was run over by Dzhokhar when the younger Tsarnaev fled in an SUV they had stolen.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev had stepped outside the SUV to shoot at police when he was hit by gunfire and was then run over by his brother when the younger Tsarnaev escaped. He was pronounced dead at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center.

"The Medical Examiner has determined the cause of death," said Terrel Harris, spokesman for the Massachusetts Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, but added that these findings will not be made public until the body is claimed and a death certificate is filed. Russell would be permitted to claim the body from the medical examiner, the spokesman said
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Autopsy results apparently won't be released until KT claims the body:

Wow!!!

 

[Sillybilly]

"Female fingerprint" IMO, this is silly -- oh no, my god some female touched a pressure cooker ---so out of the realm of innocence -

any of us see a pressure cooker on our kitchen table we know they are up to no good those pressure cooker users......

we do not know if a female touched the bomb ... we know a female touched some pressure cooker somewhere at some time....

Now an AK-47 on the kitchen table might be different.!

Regardless of what they check her DNA against, at least they have it to compare it to anything of an evidentiary nature.

 

[ami]

Yep, all the time. They're the best way to make rice, because they can get nice and hot without boiling over and vent out the small hole in the top. I've actually got a pot of rice going in my pressure cooker on my stove as we speak
Ok quick we want your DNA suspect!

Hee!

Now I'm scared of my own pressure cooker - thanks guys! Seriously though I've never had an accident with it - it has a vent hole, so I've always felt pretty safe. Until now...

As far as DNA, yep, your DNA is in your skin cells and a lot of other cells you might leave without being injured - not just blood. I'm assuming the investigators are already taking into account that a lot of the bomb parts were spread out over a lot of blood, skin, bone and other human substances, so for them to be publicizing a possible connection (if they are, and if this is not a media creation) then my guess is they found it on something internal that had blown clear of most of the victims? There's no way they could eliminate all the folks at the marathon, so if this is a real lead then it must be in a place that was not "contaminated" by the victims.