The 911 Call

[Mary456]

As for Darin - I hear "Oh my God blake kim in here" (which of course makes no sense- the blake part that is!!!). I definitely don't hear "can you get in here". The word "blake" might be a contraction of two other words (I originally thought 'how they'd come in here" but it still doesn't fit that blake sound). Did he have a nickname for Darlie that sounds like "blake"???? As in "Darlie c'm in here"?QUOTE]

Just a wild guess, but could "Oh my God blake kim in here" be something like "Oh my God get Karen here"?

Seems that Karen was on his mind, because at 00:50 you hear him saying, "Just...just get somebody".

 

[beesy]

Yeah - LOL. Remember 'ree in the pee'

LOL

Well, now somebody needs to explain this one! Sounds good! :woohoo:
I try to find any excuse to use woohoo man

 

[beesy]

Could be, but I hear what cami thinks she hears:" He or they can't make it if they don't get here" in sort of a high pitched whiny voice. I do know one thing: it's not "Oh my God, blake kim in here" LOL!
Mary, did you get my now 3 PM's?

 

[beesy]

I definitely hear Darlie say " I woke up I was fighting him" but with her accent she cuts off the "g" in fighting and the "h" in him so it sounds like "fightin im" . Just as she calls the operator "m" as in "yes m" for "yes maam" when she replies to her.

That's what I hear. I happen to say it the same way. "I was fightin 'im" I can control my accent to a degree, but when I'm upset, out it comes. Nobody ever mentions that if she did say "frightening", that's not the right way to use that word! Unless she was actually frightening because she was the killer!

 

[beesy]

babies ...stabbed me ...I woke up ...I was frightened/fightin' ...they ran out through the garage ...threw the knife down ...my babies are dying ...they're dead ...oh my God... :::I clearly hear 'threw the knife down'..however, I'm not so sure about the fighting/frightening thing though...one minute it does sound like she COULD be saying FIGHTIN', but, the next time I hear it, it sounds like she COULD be saying frightened...as in FRY-ENDT...(she is NOT saying frightening..and I think she tried to make herself clear in her testimony about this, but, they made a big ordeal out of her saying she tought she could have said "frightening". Freightened/freightening, what difference does it make really?

It matters because even Darlie(I hope) knows that you don't use "frightening" like that. You would say "frightened" if you're scared and "frightening" if you are the scary one. For her to say she said "frightening" sounds like she's just pissing in our pockets because she doesn't want to admit she first claimed to have fought with the guy. But if she really says "frightened" then it's used correctly and might be true. Therefore, it makes a big difference

 

[Dani_T]

It matters because even Darlie(I hope) knows that you don't use "frightening" like that. You would say "frightened" if you're scared and "frightening" if you are the scary one. For her to say she said "frightening" sounds like she's just pissing in our pockets because she doesn't want to admit she first claimed to have fought with the guy. But if she really says "frightened" then it's used correctly and might be true. Therefore, it makes a big difference

I agree. The blue parts are not my comments- they are the original posters who I was replying to.

 

[beesy]

I agree. The blue parts are not my comments- they are the original posters who I was replying to.

Yeah, I saw that. I just thought I'd throw it out there in case somebody else wanted to know :dance: Thanks again for posting it. I'm annoyed at myself. I heard untensils 2 separate times, but now I can't hear it and I didn't write it down.

 

[Dani_T]

Well, now somebody needs to explain this one! Sounds good! :woohoo:
I try to find any excuse to use woohoo man

Jeff is one of the most avid Darlie supporters you could run into. He used to post a lot on the board I mentioned before (now defunct) and was at times infuriating to debate with because he just wouldn't back down even when what he was saying was ridiculous.

He even spoke to Darlie in prison. One of the big things for him is that he continually asserted that Darlie got the whole knife in the U-room thing wrong. He even told her to her face that she was mistaken LOL.

So anyway, instead of hearing "threw the knife down" (which is as clear as day) he maintained that she said "ree in the pee"

LOL.

 

[Dani_T]

I've just been listening to the call again on the same software I used last time and have noticed something.

In the first minute of the call I'm sure that Darin is telling her to help by either getting somebody of 'coming in there'. A number of times.

For example at 50:10 he clearly says "just get somebody" and she replies by getting hysterical and saying "who would do this" a couple of times. It is interesting that each time he addresses her and tells her to help (in some fashion) he voice begins to escalate again and she gets that hysterical edge.

At 1:10 when she says 'Hold on' (quite calmly actually) she is talking to Darin not the boys.

Just a wild guess, but could "Oh my God blake kim in here" be something like "Oh my God get Karen here"?

Seems that Karen was on his mind, because at 00:50 you hear him saying, "Just...just get somebody".

Could be, but I hear what cami thinks she hears:" He or they can't make it if they don't get here" in sort of a high pitched whiny voice. I do know one thing: it's not "Oh my God, blake kim in here" LOL!
Mary, did you get my now 3 PM's?

I've looped that soundbyte over and over again and I hear it very clearly. He says "Oh my God" and then a word which starts with a 'bl' sound and then "come in here" (kiminhere). If he was Australian I would suggest the 'bl' sound is 'bloody' (abbreviated to one syllable) since it is a favourite adjective of ours But I doubt Texans use it much?

"They can't make it if they don't get here" is way too long (at least 2 syllables too long) for what he says. Have you tried actually looping just that second and a half? It sounds really clear to me. I have a wav file splice of it if anyone wants me to email it to them (as well as one which is slowed down a bit so you can hear better). Just PM me your email address and I will email it.

Interestingly she is a lot closer to him than she was a few seconds ago because you hear him more clearly and loudly at this point. Yet, if he is talking to her and telling her to get in there then she is still in the kitchen at that point. And so right before that if she is father away from him (as the volume of his voice suggests) she must be down closer to the U-room.

One thing which I remember really struck me last time and has struck me again is that I honestly do believe that Darin was shocked at what he found. His voice on the tape sounds genuine- he wants somebody to help and he wants it now. He's yelling at Darlie and she's telling him to hold on and giving a running commentary over and over again about who would do it. If you listen to him in the background he isn't talking much, he's trying to save Devon and just wants help.

I know that that argument is pretty weak since lots of people think Darlie sounds genuine on that tape (I think she was probably genuinely hysterical at that point myself but not for the reasons she claims). But I just can't get past Darin on that call sounding horrified and desperate for help. No wonder her ran out to get Karen- Darlie wasn't doing a bloody thing. <--- see, popular aussie adjective

 

[Goody]

As for Darin - I hear "Oh my God blake kim in here" (which of course makes no sense- the blake part that is!!!). I definitely don't hear "can you get in here". The word "blake" might be a contraction of two other words (I originally thought 'how they'd come in here" but it still doesn't fit that blake sound). Did he have a nickname for Darlie that sounds like "blake"???? As in "Darlie c'm in here"?QUOTE]

Just a wild guess, but could "Oh my God blake kim in here" be something like "Oh my God get Karen here"?

Seems that Karen was on his mind, because at 00:50 you hear him saying, "Just...just get somebody".

Could just "blake kim in here" be something like "make him in here"?

Also, when Darin first says get somebody, I took it to mean EMT's, not Karen. Darlie is on the phone and she is telling the operator what happened. Darin, if he is for real, is panicking and wanting help right now!! He is overwhelmed by what he sees and probably feels helpless, so he is wanting to push her to forget explaining, just get someone here.

 

[Goody]

05:20:19 911 Operator #1 ...82 ...10-9...
X:XX:XX Darlie Routier ...intentionally walked in here and did it Darin...
:::focus your attention immediately after 10-9 and Darlie says Darin, you will hear the following "radio", only, it's obviously NOT a 'radio':::

What bugs me about this -despite the obvious rebuke in her voice- is that I don't hear Darin saying anything to her before this point and I'm wondering what made her say what she did...

I think Darin said something to Waddell out of earshot of the 911 tape recorder that made Darlie feel uncomfortable. Is that not possible?

05:23:05 Darlie Routier ...there's nothing touched...
05:24:12 911 Operator #1 ...ok ma'am...
05:25:13 Darlie Routier ...there's nothing touched...
05:26:20 RADIO ...(unintelligible ...ma'am ...we need you to step over here)

I got very similar- "maam you're gonna need to step over there" and from what I can tell it matches Waddell's voice when he says "look for a..."

Well, this matches Waddell's and Walling's statements that they told Darlie and Darin to stand near the glass sliding doors while they cleared the house. Is it possible that Walling is in the house before Darlie hangs up. You know, he is probably the policeman at the front door. The operator did not know Waddell had responded to the call. So he was already inside for a bit and then Walling arrives. You could be hearing both officer's voices.

05:33:25 911 Operator #1 ...ma'am ...is the police officer there...
05:35:14 Darlie Routier ...yes (unintelligible)...
05:35:23 911 Operator #1 ...ok ...go talk to him ...ok...
DARLIE ROUTIER ...(unintelligible)...
?????????? ... I doubt that it was (unintelligible)... :::although it sounds to me like her or her's:::
911 OPERATOR #1 ...yes, that's ok...go talk to him
05:38:03 RADIO ...(unintelligible ...they were right there ...all of 'em were)... :::this is VERY CLEAR as well:::

yep I hear that too - sounds like Clint again

 

[Goody]

It matters because even Darlie(I hope) knows that you don't use "frightening" like that. You would say "frightened" if you're scared and "frightening" if you are the scary one. For her to say she said "frightening" sounds like she's just pissing in our pockets because she doesn't want to admit she first claimed to have fought with the guy. But if she really says "frightened" then it's used correctly and might be true. Therefore, it makes a big difference

To be fair, a person in an agitated state could get tongue-tied. So I think it is possible. I just don't believe she said anything but fighting. No where on the whole tape does she talk about how she feels. She is continually trying to tell what happened, like she wants to get it all said and on record. I disagree with Dani, I don't think she is hysterical. I think she is trying to act hysterical and that is why some statements come out sounding calm or reactionary.

 

[Dani_T]

Well, this matches Waddell's and Walling's statements that they told Darlie and Darin to stand near the glass sliding doors while they cleared the house. Is it possible that Walling is in the house before Darlie hangs up. You know, he is probably the policeman at the front door. The operator did not know Waddell had responded to the call. So he was already inside for a bit and then Walling arrives. You could be hearing both officer's voices.

I did a fair amount of work on the timing of Walling and Waddell (from testimonies) and the info on the 911 call and I seem to remember coming to the conclusion that Joyce didn't know what was going on with Waddell in the house and when she says there is an officer at the door she is referring to Waddell and that Walling didn't arrive for another 30 seconds or so. So for example 2 mins after Waddell had arrived Joyce is saying "Is 82 out on Eagle" (4:33)- from memory 82 was Waddell's number. Then she tries to contact him directly (and tries to get Darlie to stop talking and hang on so she can confirm), then asks him to repeat his last transmission (10-9 at 5.20) and then realises he is there and tells Darlie to go talk to him (not realising she has already been doing that).

 

[Goody]

One thing which I remember really struck me last time and has struck me again is that I honestly do believe that Darin was shocked at what he found. His voice on the tape sounds genuine- he wants somebody to help and he wants it now. He's yelling at Darlie and she's telling him to hold on and giving a running commentary over and over again about who would do it. If you listen to him in the background he isn't talking much, he's trying to save Devon and just wants help.

I know that that argument is pretty weak since lots of people think Darlie sounds genuine on that tape (I think she was probably genuinely hysterical at that point myself but not for the reasons she claims). But I just can't get past Darin on that call sounding horrified and desperate for help. No wonder her ran out to get Karen- Darlie wasn't doing a bloody thing. <--- see, popular aussie adjective

I know Darin sounds genuine, but so did Susan Smith. Personally I think Darin is a manipulator, and that he learned something growing up that Darlie did not. Not to spit in the wind. I think Darin knows how to use emotion when he needs to, and how to step back into the background when things get too hot. Darlie, all she seems to know is how to push forward. Like Michael Jackson she is going to show us how wrong we are rather than conform to society's rules. That makes her a bigger risk taker than Darin, but I don't think it means he doesn't take risks at all. He just likes to take them from a safety zone without most of the world knowing he is doing it. In this case that would be Darlie being the front man while he sits back stage watching from the sidelines.

If Darin did not know about this crime and was genuine as you think, that means he had to turn on a dime as soon as he did find out and completely sell his kids out. It also means that he has nothing to fear if Darlie should decide to confess. Tough one for me to swallow. Darlie might have pushed this one through, but I don't think she did it all alone or that he was completely unaware until he stumbled into chaos. I agree that there is some supporting evidence of that, but there are also things that point against him.

BTW, thanks for posting this. You did a good job.

 

[beesy]

At 1:10 when she says 'Hold on' (quite calmly actually) she is talking to Darin not the boys.

Do you think she's saying like "hold on, I'm coming" type of thing?

I've looped that soundbyte over and over again and I hear it very clearly. He says "Oh my God" and then a word which starts with a 'bl' sound and then "come in here" (kiminhere). If he was Australian I would suggest the 'bl' sound is 'bloody' (abbreviated to one syllable) since it is a favourite adjective of ours But I doubt Texans use it much?

Alot of Americans use it now after Pirates of the Carribean came out. In fact, I just used it in another thread even before I saw yours. I doubt they were in '96 though, especially the Routiers. He could be just saying "blood" as in "look at all this blood". You know.." Oh my God, blood"

"They can't make it if they don't get here" is way too long (at least 2 syllables too long) for what he says. Have you tried actually looping just that second and a half? It sounds really clear to me. I have a wav file splice of it if anyone wants me to email it to them (as well as one which is slowed down a bit so you can hear better). Just PM me your email address and I will email it.

I'm sorry I teased about "blake kim in here". I actually thought it was the other person's post on that one. Sorry. I don't have that part looped. I have the whole thing. I'd love for you to send it to me. I need to separate some of the other lines and loop those too. Is that the only part you have looped? I was listening to the tape last night and for the 1st time heard clear as a bell the "Damon, Damon, Damon". I nearly threw up and just turned it off and got in bed. It sounds like when you are at the grocery store and your child is acting up, you know you do that thing under your breath. "get over here before I snatch you bald-headed" Mama used to say that to us in church. She may be calling for Darin so could stop Damon from crawling too far out the family room It reminded me of that sort of thing, but it's pure evil. Do you realize that we might actually be hearing that boy being killed?

Interestingly she is a lot closer to him than she was a few seconds ago because you hear him more clearly and loudly at this point. Yet, if he is talking to her and telling her to get in there then she is still in the kitchen at that point. And so right before that if she is father away from him (as the volume of his voice suggests) she must be down closer to the U-room.

She is much closer, I agree. Maybe he was the one running though. Was he going out to cut the screen or had he stepped into the kitchen to ask for her help? Ooooh! Maybe she was wiping the sofa off. I don't think he tried to do CPR very long on Devon, if at all. Once he realized the boys were actually dead or dying, maybe then felt he had to take responsiblity. I think Darin did the things which required leaving the house. I go back and forth because I really like my theory that Darlie got those paper cuts from holding the screen. But then it would have been easier for Darin to do that since she was bleeding everywhere. Oh a thought! Maybe she cut the screen before the murders? Do you ever hear water in the background? I think she was still wiping the counter and sink while on the phone. Have you heard any utensils? I know I heard that! Everybody's probably thinking I'm crazy, but I swear I do.

One thing which I remember really struck me last time and has struck me again is that I honestly do believe that Darin was shocked at what he found. His voice on the tape sounds genuine- he wants somebody to help and he wants it now. He's yelling at Darlie and she's telling him to hold on and giving a running commentary over and over again about who would do it. If you listen to him in the background he isn't talking much, he's trying to save
Devon and just wants help.

Especially when he says whatever that sentence is. Could he be saying "he ain't gonna make it, if they don't get here" or "can you comeinhere"
I believe that Darin was horrified at first. I mentioned she may have threatened to kill them or herself, yada yada, and she met his dare. If so, it makes sense that he'd be freaking out when he first sees the boys and Darlie. Then helped her because he felt like he was also to blame, or maybe he feels he is totally to blame. Can't you just hear Darlie saying "you made me do this"? She was/is immature enough to blame someone else for her actions. She's still doing it. She says the nurses lied, cops lied, evidence lied, everything, poor counsel, etc. Has anyone ever heard her say "I am so sorry I couldn't save my boys"? I know in the Silly String interview she says "we tried to save the babies, but we couldn't" or something of the sort. I've always noted she says "THE babies". Is that another clue? Has she ever accepted any blame at all for not saving them? I'm using her theory here that she didn't kill the boys, most parents still feel guilt no matter how the child dies. We all know she did this, but IF there was an intruder, Darlie and Darin both should feel guilty. Remember all Darlie says she did for the boys is put a wet towel on Damon's back. She should feel awful that Damon died whether she killed him or not. He was alive, watching her, trying to breathe as she was running around on the stupid phone. :furious:

 

[Dani_T]

If Darin did not know about this crime and was genuine as you think, that means he had to turn on a dime as soon as he did find out and completely sell his kids out. It also means that he has nothing to fear if Darlie should decide to confess.

That's only if he did come to the realisation (not just subconciously) that she did it. I think he was in denial for a long time. Of course, that doesn't mean he didn't change his story to try and help her- but I don't think that necessarily means he knew she was guilty- just wrongly charged. I too have trouble believing he would turn on a dime- particularly if he arrived at the scene and knew she did it and then had 5 minutes to decide to cover for her. I think that is just too highly improbable.

 

[beesy]

That's only if he did come to the realisation (not just subconciously) that she did it. I think he was in denial for a long time. Of course, that doesn't mean he didn't change his story to try and help her- but I don't think that necessarily means he knew she was guilty- just wrongly charged. I too have trouble believing he would turn on a dime- particularly if he arrived at the scene and knew she did it and then had 5 minutes to decide to cover for her. I think that is just too highly improbable.[/color]

I don't think he had to "turn on a dime". Do you like my theory about her threatening to hurt the boys? If that did happen, He would be horrified that she actually followed thru on the threat, but might also realize he had to help her since he "dared" her to do it.

 

[Goody]

If Darin did not know about this crime and was genuine as you think, that means he had to turn on a dime as soon as he did find out and completely sell his kids out. It also means that he has nothing to fear if Darlie should decide to confess.

That's only if he did come to the realisation (not just subconciously) that she did it. I think he was in denial for a long time. Of course, that doesn't mean he didn't change his story to try and help her- but I don't think that necessarily means he knew she was guilty- just wrongly charged. I too have trouble believing he would turn on a dime- particularly if he arrived at the scene and knew she did it and then had 5 minutes to decide to cover for her. I think that is just too highly improbable.

Here's the thing, Dani. There is evidence that suggests she thought this out in advance. The seven things I listed on another post. I am sure you have seen it. Now maybe she didn't plan it well, but she planned it in her Darlie diva way and put those wheels in motion. We don't know if Darin knew it or not, but I bet he knew something of it. My instincts just tell me that they probably discussed it. I don't know how seriously, but some of his actions that night tell me that if he was not a part of it, he figured out what had gone down pretty quick and was scared. Going after Karen gave him an excuse to get out of the house and away from it, a break so to speak. Hardly the actions of a concerned father. More like the actions of a guilty one if only in those planning stages when he might not have thought they would ever really do it. Maybe he was just placating her, at least she wasn't harping and complaining. Maybe their argument that night was about doing it and when, and maybe she went ahead with it anyway in spite of his objections.

Now if Darin is involved in the planning but not the execution, he's got good reason to be afraid of what Darlie could tell on him. She could probably pull him down with her. And she may before it is over.

Now you get to the part where he starts defending her.....at the hospital he is already telling the police that he can see why someone would attack her, its her beauty, her big knockers, etc. How does he have his thoughts together so soon?

One of the cops who didn't testify said it started not at the hospital but at the scene when Darin made an inappropriate joke about the intruder having to get past her to cut her throat. Why on earth would he think of that? Maybe he tried to cut her while she was laying down and couldn't, so they abandoned the idea, sending her into the kitchen to do it herself????? Whatever, these comments make him appear to be accepting of the murders within an hour or two or less even. Where's denial? Where's anger?

But back to assuming he doesn't participate in the murders......We can have him turning, but there could be room for him to do it in an hour or so rather than 5 or 10 minutes. Devon is killed. He finds out about it, maybe interrupts the process, and they fight, then talk, then start the cover up. Damon, of course, would be part of the cover up. Point out the weak spots if you will. I am mostly just thinking out loud.

 

[sue1017]

To me at the beginning of the call she sounds like she is out-of-breath (like someone that just ran about the length of a football to hide a sock!).

Once she catches her breath you can understand her clearly. If I was panicked I would be hyperventilating too but doubt that it would stop after a few seconds or minutes.

Thought I would share.

Sue

BTW, DaniT--that part about the 1:44 part on the audio transcript really is disturbing. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. It has shed some light on my thoughts of her killing the boys.

 

[Dani_T]

Here's the thing, Dani. There is evidence that suggests she thought this out in advance. The seven things I listed on another post. I am sure you have seen it. Now maybe she didn't plan it well, but she planned it in her Darlie diva way and put those wheels in motion.

Yes, I agree she planned it to SOME extent. Not sure how much

My instincts just tell me that they probably discussed it. I don't know how seriously, but some of his actions that night tell me that if he was not a part of it, he figured out what had gone down pretty quick and was scared.

If they discussed it and Darin went with it you are basically talking about two sociopaths. What are the chances that both of them were sociopaths? I jiust find it too hard to believe that they BOTH could have been OK with this.

But you are assuming he figured it out quickly. Why? What makes you say that? Putting aside his later contradictions at trial, what did he do that night that makes you sure that he suddenly realised it was Darlie?

Going after Karen gave him an excuse to get out of the house and away from it, a break so to speak. Hardly the actions of a concerned father. More like the actions of a guilty one if only in those planning stages when he might not have thought they would ever really do it.

I actually see them as the actions of a desperate man- he knew his neighbour across the street was a nurse. He had been trying CPR and Devon was dead. My reaction would be to get someone who knew what the hell to do.. just like he was screaming for Darlie to just get somebody. Even after the paramedics arrived I think I would still want someone I knew and trusted there. I just don't see why going to Karen should be suspicious.

Now if Darin is involved in the planning but not the execution, he's got good reason to be afraid of what Darlie could tell on him. She could probably pull him down with her. And she may before it is over.

What makes you think Darin is afraid of Darlie?

Now you get to the part where he starts defending her.....at the hospital he is already telling the police that he can see why someone would attack her, its her beauty, her big knockers, etc. How does he have his thoughts together so soon?

See I don't see that as thoughts together. I see it as a man who is obviously besotted with his wife's looks and who is trying to work out why someone would do this. I think it is a pretty stupid thing to say really and if he really wanted to defend her all he needed to say was they broke in for money etc, she got in the way and scared them off. Just because he is defvending her does not mean that he thinks she is guilty.

One of the cops who didn't testify said it started not at the hospital but at the scene when Darin made an inappropriate joke about the intruder having to get past her to cut her throat. Why on earth would he think of that?

Sorry but I only see that as pure speculation. Same level as Waddell throwing up on the scene.

But back to assuming he doesn't participate in the murders......We can have him turning, but there could be room for him to do it in an hour or so rather than 5 or 10 minutes. Devon is killed. He finds out about it, maybe interrupts the process, and they fight, then talk, then start the cover up. Damon, of course, would be part of the cover up. Point out the weak spots if you will. I am mostly just thinking out loud.

Your assumption is he knew she was guilty either at the scene or immediately after it. I don't see how you can make that assumption. To put two cold blooded killers in that house with neither of them seeing much wrong with even just contemplating the murder of their kids is just too far fetched. I just don't see how they could BOTH be willing to contemplate the idea, discuss it, even disagree over it. If Darin came downstairs and found that horror scene I think believing his wife did it would be as far from his mind as anything. I don't think he believed for a long time... years later.. if perhaps at all. I think he was trying to cover for her by his contradictions because he honestly believed (at least on a conscious level) she was wrongly accused. To admit to yourself that your wife was a child killer.... that you had lived with her all that time... that you had left your kids in her care... that's a massive thing to bring yourself to believe in any small amount of time.

PS> Beesy- sorry haven't forgotten about your posts. Just been very busy. Will try and get to them soon!