The Blood Droplets

  • #41
Goody said:
I think I picked it up in a Dr Lee case. I am a huge fan of his. Or it could have been something Ann Rule wrote about. (Been reading a couple of her books lately) She is very meticulous about her facts. No one is perfect but she does an excellent job of explaining evidence and what is going on with experts, etc. If you don't agree that air bubbles could cause a donut hole pattern in a droplet, I guess that is your perrogative, but it makes sense to me.
Sorry, didn't mean for you to think I was disputing it just couldn't find the info in the link you posted. Thought I might be missing it somewhere. It sounds logical to me.
 
  • #42
G.I.RattlesnakeJane said:
Sorry, didn't mean for you to think I was disputing it just couldn't find the info in the link you posted. Thought I might be missing it somewhere. It sounds logical to me.
Good. We are still on the same page then. I think the blood on the shirt is definitely cast off just as Bevel described. If not, the technique of analysis would not be so widely accepted and used by blood experts. Until some other theory can dispute Bevel's findings, I have to stick with it.
 
  • #43
G.I.RattlesnakeJane said:
May God be with you at this time of need. Let his mercy and grace be upon you and your family. I ask for a healing for Cami's mom in the name of my Savior and Lord Jesus Christ.
Amen
From the R. family to yours -peace be with you.


That's very nice. May I too, add my prayers for your mom Cami!!
 
  • #44
G.I.RattlesnakeJane said:
Were there cast off drops on the ceiling 90 degrees from the point where they surmised Darlie was when she stabbed Damon. THE SITE SAYS THERE SHOULD BE.
Is this in the trial testimony--- please send me a link .

You are such a hoot. Maybe when you send a link that the cops contaminated the blood evidence.
 
  • #45
G.I.RattlesnakeJane said:
May God be with you at this time of need. Let his mercy and grace be upon you and your family. I ask for a healing for Cami's mom in the name of my Savior and Lord Jesus Christ.
Amen
From the R. family to yours -peace be with you.

Thank you very much R. Jane. I appreciate all the prayers and good thoughts for my mum. We are meeting with the doctor in the ICU today at 3:30 to discuss further treatment. She has improved significantly since last Tuesday/Wednesday when they were giving her up for dead.

Thanks to Goody and Jeana and everyone at WS.
 
  • #46
G.I.RattlesnakeJane said:
Look I'm keeping score here, don't kid yourselves, so far goody and beesy have the most convincing arguments. They have scored more points in the way of blood evidence. Remember my posts about velocity. I know you know what it means. My pics of the crime scene are in MTJD. Could you draw a map like they showed on the site showing this cast off pattern. I read the site very thoughly.
I also saw where cast off is often obscured by additional bleeding by victims just what happened in this case. What are the size of these drops cause the site gave real specific measurements and I use a mm ruler everyday. The tiny spot on the back of Darlie's shirt looks like it could have been aspiration too. Was her back to him ? I am looking really hard at all the blood but really don't know how to make it tell it's story.

Can you point us to the cast-off blood or any blood from the bloody knife hitting the kitchen floor when the alleged intruder dropped/threw it there? The blood trail leading to the site where the alleged intruder dropped/threw the knife down? Where is Darlie's cast-off blood in and on the furniture and the ceiling when she was ahem fighting with the alleged intruder? She's cut, where's her blood?

Where is the defense expert who argued that blood on her nightshirt was aspirated and not cast-off?
 
  • #47
Jeana (DP) said:
That's very nice. May I too, add my prayers for your mom Cami!!

Thank you.
 
  • #48
cami said:
Thank you very much R. Jane. I appreciate all the prayers and good thoughts for my mum. We are meeting with the doctor in the ICU today at 3:30 to discuss further treatment. She has improved significantly since last Tuesday/Wednesday when they were giving her up for dead.

Thanks to Goody and Jeana and everyone at WS.
No problem, cami dear.
 
  • #49
The theory on the site you listed .
The blood must be in the process of casting off blood before it gets to the heigth of Darlie's shoulder. It also gives away her position by triangulation .

Remember the stabs to Damon are shallower than , therefore that big knife doesn't get blood high up the blade. It will cast off in an arcing pattern. I listed the evidence Bevel submitted cause I FOUND IT in the transcipts . They are
TB-3, t-10,TB-2,T-9. What are those .
 
  • #50
So nice to see you back. How did the meeting with the docs go? Things are looking up it seems.
There wasn't any blood where she said the knife was dropped, right? I've always wondered why Darlie didn't lay down on the couch and bleed on it. It probably still wouldn't be the right pattern but at least she could say the couch was drenched in her blood. Maybe she ran out of time. Clock's still ticking for her isn't it?
 
  • #51
beesy said:
So nice to see you back. How did the meeting with the docs go? Things are looking up it seems. [url="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/11/11_1_103.gif"]http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/11/11_1_103.gif[/url]
There wasn't any blood where she said the knife was dropped, right? I've always wondered why Darlie didn't lay down on the couch and bleed on it. It probably still wouldn't be the right pattern but at least she could say the couch was drenched in her blood. Maybe she ran out of time. Clock's still ticking for her isn't it? [url="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_5_52.gif"]http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_5_52.gif[/url]
Yes, it sure is! They have this prison museum that is in Huntsville where my baby goes to college. I always think about Darlie and the day she will make her final walk when we drive by it. They have old Sparky there!


http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tips/getAttraction.php3?tip_AttractionNo==2454
 
  • #52
cami said:
Thank you very much R. Jane. I appreciate all the prayers and good thoughts for my mum. We are meeting with the doctor in the ICU today at 3:30 to discuss further treatment. She has improved significantly since last Tuesday/Wednesday when they were giving her up for dead.

Thanks to Goody and Jeana and everyone at WS.



-Cami I'm very sorry to hear about your Mum...my thoughts and prayers are with you and your Mother
 
  • #53
beesy said:
Do they tell you why there SHOULD be? High velocity is from a gun, not from swinging a knife. Go to the link on this thread.
They talk about aspiration under high velocity thought it might be easier to find it if I told you where i saw it on that site.
 
  • #54
cami said:
Where is the defense expert who argued that blood on her nightshirt was aspirated and not cast-off?
This is your best question yet!!!:clap:
 
  • #55
Goody said:
This is your best question yet!!!:clap:
I just typed that question into the trial transcripts and came up with 44 hits. It may take a while to find it. :eek:
 
  • #56
deandaniellws said:
I just typed that question into the trial transcripts and came up with 44 hits. It may take a while to find it. :eek:
LOL! There was no defense expert who testified to it. You can read Dr DiMaio if you like but I don't think even he got anywhere near that.
 
  • #57
  • #58
G.I.RattlesnakeJane said:
No it was the demonstration with the hand drawn map that showed a knife flinging blood up a wall on the ceiling . This is standing up but kneeling down would n't go as high I suppose
I thought you meant Darlie's site said it should have to be there. That's why I just blew it off. I've been sick today and haven't looked. Can you post that paragraph for us?
Also found a pic of the living room and the ceiling. It is on justice for darlie site in the gallery4. It looks like a normal not vaulted ceiling
Yeah, I think the vaulted part is the entry way, but I'm not sure.

Impact spatter produces a random dispersion of small blood droplets. The exact pattern of spatter is dependant on the velocity of the force striking the victim. Low velocity spatter patterns would result from a victim receiving a blow with a blunt object and if repeated blows are delivered a series of spatter patterns would result each from a single blow. High velocity spatter occurs as the result of a gunshot. If an individual is shot at close range there will also be a mist-like high velocity spatter of blood backwards onto the perpetrator’s clothing.
This where they explain the types of velocity. Low impact is blunt object, High is gun.
http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=18&id=28138
 
  • #59
  • #60
cami said:
You are such a hoot. Maybe when you send a link that the cops contaminated the blood evidence.
You will find it same place I did. Justice for darlie and her own home page. They described it I 'm asking if it's true. I may be under false impressions here.

They descibe several things as being undone and also contaminated. MTJD also states it.
 

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