The Blue Barrel in the Bedroom? #3

[dee10134]

cool...fill us in later ok?...i'll check back with this thread later to see if you've reported anything

I'm also from Lockport. My mom lives right under the bridge on the "floodplain" between the I&M Canal and the Sanitary & Ship Canal & Des Plaines River.

I'm going to check with her tonight and see if she noticed anything out of the ordinary today...

 

[closeobserver]

delaney, I'm assuming you're local too. My mom lives 2 doors away from this bridge so she'd know more than anybody what's going on down there. I'll have to question her later tonight. There is all kinds of access to the waterways down there.

I'd seriously doubt DP'd dump her into the I&M because the water is so shallow, but the Sanitary & Ship Canal or the Des Plaines would be a good spot. There aren't many street lights by the residences under the bridge or by the River or the Canal for that matter, making it a perfect spot to dump a body....

ETA: I haven't seen any low-flying choppers in the area, but then again, I've been at work all day until dark...

What about the road to the long out of order bridge south of the 9th street bridge. I think it is either were Division or Caton Farm crossed Rte 53. That area is desolate.

 

[mysteriew]

Do you use WARM water to mix cement? Maybe he put cement in the barrel already and it was still warm from the mix?

When mixing cement it doesn't matter whether the water is warm or cold.
But I saw an article where Morph estimated the container he helped move as being approx. 120 #. Stacy weighed 100#, and concrete would weigh more than 20#.

However, concrete comes in 5 and 10# bags. If he was putting into water, it would be easy to dump the bags into the barrel just before he put it into water.

 

[Taximom]

If he used concrete at all in or around the home, I would hope LE would have found traces of that.

I thought some cement heated up when you mixed it. I'm probably thinking of something else.

 

[mysteriew]

If he used concrete at all in or around the home, I would hope LE would have found traces of that.

I thought some cement heated up when you mixed it. I'm probably thinking of something else.

I think when the concrete and water mix that it might heat up. But you don't have to use warm water to mix it.

 

[grace60]

When mixing cement it doesn't matter whether the water is warm or cold.
But I saw an article where Morph estimated the container he helped move as being approx. 120 #. Stacy weighed 100#, and concrete would weigh more than 20#.

However, concrete comes in 5 and 10# bags. If he was putting into water, it would be easy to dump the bags into the barrel just before he put it into water.

I wondered about that also. Drew was probably doing everything he could to confuse LE. I wonder if he used the barrel to mix the cement. It was large and nothing would have slopped over on the garage floor. Then he poured the cement into the tote. Thats why they are talking about a tote and barell

Morphy's friend says he told him it was a large sealed tote.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/p...n=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/

 

[Leila]

I just watched the video here:
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/p...ale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

This is really all coming together now. Thomas Morphey's friend, Walter Martinek jr., says that Thomas Morphey came to him the day after TM helped move what he calls a "blue tote". He says TM had financial and family problems recently and that DP had promised to get TM a job. When DP asked him to help move the "blue tote" TM went to help DP, but later told his friend that he thinks he just helped DP move Stacy's body. He said he was afraid of Drew and didn't know what to do.

When TM attempted suicide, Walter Martinek jr. went straight to state police with what TM had told him.

So clearly, the police have known about this blue tote/blue barrel from almost the beginning.

 

[mysteriew]

I just wish LE would clarify if it was a barrel or a tote! If you are driving down the road every day and seeing a tote, you may not pay attention because you believe that LE is looking for a barrel.

 

[grace60]

I just wish LE would clarify if it was a barrel or a tote! If you are driving down the road every day and seeing a tote, you may not pay attention because you believe that LE is looking for a barrel.

If he bought 40lbs of cement he could have put 20 in a tote and left the other 20 in the barrel. Both would sink. The barrel was big enough where he put bags and all in so there would be no residue. Thats why they are talking about a barrel and tote. Getting the bags of cement home without leaving traces of it in his car would be a little tricky. Wrapping them in 3 or 4 garbage bags would help. With technology today they may have found traces of the powdered cement in the car.

 

[concernedperson]

I just watched the video here:
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/p...ale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

This is really all coming together now. Thomas Morphey's friend, Walter Martinek jr., says that Thomas Morphey came to him the day after TM helped move what he calls a "blue tote". He says TM had financial and family problems recently and that DP had promised to get TM a job. When DP asked him to help move the "blue tote" TM went to help DP, but later told his friend that he thinks he just helped DP move Stacy's body. He said he was afraid of Drew and didn't know what to do.

When TM attempted suicide, Walter Martinek jr. went straight to state police with what TM had told him.

So clearly, the police have known about this blue tote/blue barrel from almost the beginning.

The good thing is that people are coming forward with information. I wonder if the blue barrel info was just left to fly for Drew's sake but they informed others.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I just wish LE would clarify if it was a barrel or a tote! If you are driving down the road every day and seeing a tote, you may not pay attention because you believe that LE is looking for a barrel.

They are looking for both. The barrel came up because a neighbor saw one in his backyard and Cassandra had seen one in his garage. When they served the search warrant, no blue barrel was present. They are looking for a rectangular plastic container, too.

If the container that Tom helped move weighed approximately 120 lbs., it would make sense that with her weight...there was no cement, but possibly the scuba weights inside the sealed container.

 

[Taximom]

What exactly is a "tote"?! To me that's something made of cloth.

Which reminds me of Ric Mims comment that Stacy could have been carried out in a duffel bag.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The "tote" they are talking about is a rectangular plastic container with a lid.

 

[Littledeer]

SS:

Does anyone know the depth of this tote??? Are we thinking long, shallow or long, deep??

When I use the word "tote", I usually refer to my blue "tub" rubbermaid tub that I use for laundry and for throwing tons of pictures in.

 

[Taximom]

Not arguing at all, SS, but if you google "tote" the first page of pictures are all cloth over the shoulder bags! Are we sure that's what "they" mean by tote? (Seriously, just asking-not being difficult!)

 

[Littledeer]

Taxi:

Good point, even in crossword puzzles, the answer is always "tote" for another name for bag or something one carries on an airplane, etc.

But I also brought I that I use "tote" for a rubbermaid tub......

so guess tote can mean different things, etc. WE NEED A PIC OF THIS THING!!

 

[grace60]

SS:

Does anyone know the depth of this tote??? Are we thinking long, shallow or long, deep??

When I use the word "tote", I usually refer to my blue "tub" rubbermaid tub that I use for laundry and for throwing tons of pictures in.

I have 6 that are made by sterilite http://www.sterilite.com/

I bought them when I was moving at the General Dollar Store. They were not expensive about $7.00. The ones I have are 16 inches deep 19 inches wide and 30 inches in length. Rubbermaid makes them also. Rubbermaid from what I saw is made better better. Thicker plastic. When I was buying mine they had larger ones but didn't buy the bigger one because it would be to heavy once I packed my stuff in them.

 

[Taximom]

It's only bugging me because of what Ric Mims said about the duffel bag. That's all.

 

[Littledeer]

grace:

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM REFERRING TO!!! I call it a tub, my hubby calls it a tote, and my daughter calls it a basket........

go figure!!

 

[Littledeer]

okay. So would this be the thread where we can discuss theories on what DP did with Stacy and the "tote" and "barrel" or would it be better on the Stacy Peterson thread??