The British Royal Family #2

[rosemadderlake]

What's with Bon Jovi and the BRF? He called Prince William up on stage to sing with him during an event.

I forget where I read it but Bon Jovi is donating a song and its proceeds to Invictus. And he is recording the song with the Invictus Choir at Abbey Road. —Both his parents were in the Marines and Bon Jovi has supported many causes including our vets.

This is nice, adds a little Rock & Roll power to Invictus which is a global entity. I thought the same, what’s up with Bon Jovi and the BRF, but who knows maybe Invictus vets love his music?

Anyway, he makes his (and my) home state of New Jersey very proud!

 

[rosemadderlake]

It's beautiful. Pics of her wearing it in this
Linley Beechwood Tiara | The Royal Watcher

Oh my, it’s a totally lovely tiara. Here’s a pic from the article article you posted, astheworldfallsdown.

 

[Gardenista]

MM/PH updated their website

Spring 2020 Transition | The Official Website of The Duke & Duchess of Sussex

 

[Luna20]

EXCLUSIVE: Defiant Meghan tells friends there's nothing 'legally stopping' her and Prince Harry from using their Sussex Royal name, despite Queen banning them from using it

Defiant Meghan says there's nothing 'legally stopping' her from using Sussex Royal name | Daily Mail Online

I hope this is fake news.

Repulsive

 

[Luna20]

Verified from the BBC

Harry and Meghan to end use of 'SussexRoyal' brand

“The Queen's command is thought to represent a major blow to the Sussexes, who would be faced with re-registering everything from their website to their charity under a new label.

Harry and Meghan first began using the Sussex Royal branding this time last year, after they split their household from that of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge – known as Kensington Royal”

If their intention was to “continue to support the Queen” they would have spoken to her privately as opposed to blindsiding her.

Ironically Megan won’t speak to her Father because he went to the press. She did the same by “going to the press” first with major life changing news. Stepping over her husband’s family. The Queen had to find out about it from Social Media.

Unnecessary drama.

 

[Alethea]

Had never heard of this before but came across it on instagram, Princess Margaret's son the Earl of Snowdon David who was announced as getting divorced from his wife this week once made her a tiara out of wood, its called "The Linley Beechwood Tiara"

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I like it, its beautifully made but I think its too close to her hair colour to be impactful, maybe it would be better stained. Thoughts?

Finally, a tiara I could afford. Just have to learn to carve and chop down some of these here trees and I’m in...

 

[Alethea]

MM/PH updated their website

Spring 2020 Transition | The Official Website of The Duke & Duchess of Sussex

H&M really need better advisors. This kind of over-sharing is really not necessary. Specifically pointing out that the BRF does not have jurisdiction to prevent them from using the word Royal overseas seems like poking the bear that’s giving you millions of dollars? Why even say something like that?

If they asked me, which they didn’t, I’d tell them just launch your new thing in Spring 2020 with what you’re doing! No need to explain what you wanted and what was negotiated and what you’re still sour about. Spin it positive! The Sussex Foundation! HAMDGT (Harry Archie & Meghan & Doing Good Things)!

 

[Sherwood Park]

H&M really need better advisors. This kind of over-sharing is really not necessary. Specifically pointing out that the BRF does not have jurisdiction to prevent them from using the word Royal overseas seems like poking the bear that’s giving you millions of dollars? Why even say something like that?

If they asked me, which they didn’t, I’d tell them just launch your new thing in Spring 2020 with what you’re doing! No need to explain what you wanted and what was negotiated and what you’re still sour about. Spin it positive! The Sussex Foundation! HAMDGT (Harry Archie & Meghan & Doing Good Things)!

Had they asked you, M & H wouldn't have gotten into the public relations that they caused for themselves.

From their Spring 2020 announcement:
"The Royal Family respect and understand the wish of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex to live a more independent life as a family, by removing the supposed ‘public interest’ justification for media intrusion into their lives."

-They created more "public interest" with their rash and misguided announcements. They are unhappy that the "public interest" wasn't positive and couldn't be controlled.

"It is agreed that The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will continue to require effective security to protect them and their son. "

-No one questioned their need for security, however, we as Canadians don't want to pay for your security while you're in Canada. The Brits can foot the bill, not us.

"The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will become privately funded members of The Royal Family with permission to earn their own income and the ability to pursue their own private charitable interests."
-In other words, they will be funded by the daddy-dole. Nothing says "financially independent" like living off of daddy's money after realizing how expensive it is to live the rich life when you have no income.

I hope that Prince Harry will eventually learn that you can't control the media. Trashy tabloids will always have something to print, even if it's a tall tale. It helps if they stay away and live truly private lives like their cousins and their grandmother's cousins as well. They have managed to live productive lives as working royals and private citizens (some with titles) without the media hounding them.

 

[Gardenista]

H&M really need better advisors. This kind of over-sharing is really not necessary. Specifically pointing out that the BRF does not have jurisdiction to prevent them from using the word Royal overseas seems like poking the bear that’s giving you millions of dollars? Why even say something like that?

If they asked me, which they didn’t, I’d tell them just launch your new thing in Spring 2020 with what you’re doing! No need to explain what you wanted and what was negotiated and what you’re still sour about. Spin it positive! The Sussex Foundation! HAMDGT (Harry Archie & Meghan & Doing Good Things)!

IMO, there's absolutely no way one of their professional advisors wrote that update.

 

[maggieg]

MM/PH updated their website

Spring 2020 Transition | The Official Website of The Duke & Duchess of Sussex

FFS describing your staff losing their jobs as making you sad is just so tone deaf.

Also their reasons for needing security is that Harry is a member of the RF- plenty of them do without taxpayer funded security
Harry was a high profile solider- lots of people were and are active members
Meghan's "own independent profile"

If they are going to make serious money then they should foot all their own bills

-No one questioned their need for security, however, we as Canadians don't want to pay for your security while you're in Canada. The Brits can foot the bill, not us.

Canada's going to do very well out of this, all the taxes on their income and none of the security bills

 

[rosemadderlake]

Can someone copy and paste the update here? —I would much appreciate. Their website still doesn’t work in my iPad.

If they are taking the BRF to task with what is within their “jurisdiction” but H&M are magnimous by complying, on the website, well I’m floored.

 

[maggieg]

Can someone copy and paste the update here? —I would much appreciate. Their website still doesn’t work in my iPad.

Spring 2020 Transition | The Official Website of The Duke & Duchess of Sussex

We are pleased to now be able to share with you an update on many of the details agreed at a meeting of The Royal Family in January 2020, which outlines The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s new roles, taking effect Spring 2020. We had hoped to be allowed to share these details with you sooner (to mitigate any confusion and subsequent misreporting), but the facts below should help provide some clarification around this transition and the steps for the future.

As agreed and set out in January 2020:

• It is agreed that the commencement of the revised role of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will take effect Spring 2020 and undergo a 12 month review.
• The Royal Family respect and understand the wish of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex to live a more independent life as a family, by removing the supposed ‘public interest’ justification for media intrusion into their lives. They remain a valued part of Her Majesty’s family.
• The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will become privately funded members of The Royal Family with permission to earn their own income and the ability to pursue their own private charitable interests.
• The preference of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex was to continue to represent and support Her Majesty The Queen albeit in a more limited capacity, while not drawing on the Sovereign Grant.
• While there is precedent for other titled members of the Royal Family to seek employment outside of the institution, for The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, a 12-month review period has been put in place.
• Per the agreement The Duke and Duchess of Sussex understand that they are required to step back from Royal duties and not undertake representative duties on behalf of Her Majesty The Queen.
• As agreed and set out in January, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will retain their “HRH” prefix, thereby formally remaining known as His Royal Highness The Duke of Sussex and Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Sussex. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will no longer actively use their HRH titles as they will no longer be working members of the family as of Spring 2020.
• As the grandson of Her Majesty and second son of The Prince of Wales, Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex remains sixth in line to the throne of The British Monarchy and the Order of Precedence is unchanged.
• It was agreed that The Duke and Duchess will no longer be able to formally carry out ‘official duties’ for The Queen or represent The Commonwealth, but they will, however, be allowed to maintain their patronages (including those that are classified as ‘royal’ patronages).
• It is agreed that The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will continue to require effective security to protect them and their son. This is based on The Duke’s public profile by virtue of being born into The Royal Family, his military service, the Duchess’ own independent profile, and the shared threat and risk level documented specifically over the last few years. No further details can be shared as this is classified information for safety reasons.
• In relation to the military, The Duke of Sussex will retain the rank of Major, and honorary ranks of Lieutenant Commander, and Squadron Leader. During this 12-month period of review, The Duke’s official military appointments will not be used as they are in the gift of the Sovereign. No new appointments will be made to fill these roles before the 12-month review of the new arrangements is completed.
• While per the agreement, The Duke will not perform any official duties associated with these roles, given his dedication to the military community and ten years of service he will of course continue his unwavering support to the military community in a non-official capacity. As founder of the Invictus Games, The Duke will proudly continue supporting the military community around the world through the Invictus Games Foundation and The Endeavour Fund.
• Based on the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s desire to have a reduced role as members of The Royal Family, it was decided in January that their Institutional Office would have to be closed, given the primary funding mechanism for this official office at Buckingham Palace is from HRH The Prince of Wales. The Duke and Duchess shared this news with their team personally in January once they knew of the decision, and have worked closely with their staff to ensure a smooth transition for each of them.
• Over the last month and a half, The Duke and Duchess have remained actively involved in this process, which has understandably been saddening for The Duke and Duchess and their loyal staff, given the closeness of Their Royal Highnesses and their dedicated team.
• As The Duke and Duchess will no longer be considered full-time working Members of The Royal Family, it was agreed that use of the word ‘Royal’ would need to be reviewed as it pertains to organisations associated with them in this new regard. More details on this below.

Additional Details:

• As shared in early January on this website, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex do not plan to start a ‘foundation’, but rather intend to develop a new way to effect change and complement the efforts made by so many excellent foundations globally.
• The creation of this non-profit entity will be in addition to their cause driven work that they remain deeply committed to. While The Duke and Duchess are focused on plans to establish a new non-profit organisation, given the specific UK government rules surrounding use of the word ‘Royal’, it has been therefore agreed that their non-profit organisation will not utilise the name ‘Sussex Royal’ or any other iteration of ‘Royal.’
• For the above reason, the trademark applications that had been filed as protective measures and that reflected the same standard trademarking requests as done for The Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, have been removed.
• While there is not any jurisdiction by The Monarchy or Cabinet Office over the use of the word ‘Royal’ overseas, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex do not intend to use ‘Sussex Royal’ or any iteration of the word ‘Royal’ in any territory (either within the UK or otherwise) when the transition occurs Spring 2020.
• As The Duke and Duchess of Sussex continue to develop their non-profit organisation and plan for their future, we hope that you use this site as the source for factual information. In Spring 2020, their digital channels will be refreshed as they introduce the next exciting phase to you.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex eagerly await the opportunity to share more with you and greatly appreciate your support!

 

[rosemadderlake]

^^ Thank you, maggieg.

I agree with others, this over sharing about precedence, and jurisdiction is low rent.

I’m not sure what’s going to be more difficult for Meghan, facing England, or facing the members of the BRF next month.

 

[1&2&3]

Oh, so all the above new rules and guidelines for Harry and Meghan are for a twelve month period. Interesting!

Guess I did not understand there was a time period when these were originally issued after the January meeting.

What is plain to me is that a divorce will occur within this twelve month period. These guidelines are the first restrictions to come out as stepping stones for Meghan and Harry.

We heard Harry had been stripped of all military honors and duties, but not that it was for only a year. A bit peculiar, don’t you think?

Now the Queen has ordered Harry and Meghan to London on March 9 for a British attendance. Will Meghan go? Another axe is ready to fall on Meghan if she goes, IMO.

Why does the Queen need Meghan in Britain?

 

[Yvettea]

Oh, so all the above new rules and guidelines for Harry and Meghan are for a twelve month period. Interesting!

Guess I did not understand there was a time period when these were originally issued after the January meeting.

What is plain to me is that a divorce will occur within this twelve month period. These guidelines are the first restrictions to come out as stepping stones for Meghan and Harry.

We heard Harry had been stripped of all military honors and duties, but not that it was for only a year. A bit peculiar, don’t you think?

Now the Queen has ordered Harry and Meghan to London on March 9 for a British attendance. Will Meghan go? Another axe is ready to fall on Meghan if she goes, IMO.

Why does the Queen need Meghan in Britain?

Will you share what axe will fall if Meghan attends on Mar 9 as ordered?

 

[Yvettea]

Repulsive

Will you explain why are you find Megan’s behavior repulsive? I am American and would like to understand more about British life.

 

[Luna20]

On their site landing page:

“The goal is to focus on what connects us, rather than what divides us”

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex~

Family is what ‘connects’ them individually and via marriage. However together they have chosen to stand divided on both sides.

ETA:

Sounding more like politicians

 

[Herat]

I don't employ two PR companies to represent me but I have the sense to Never Ever write something so puny and backhanded to Really Important People.

There is always a way to express your displeasure with tact, respect, and gracious behaviour.

Here's a hint: You never know in life when you will really really need the respect and support of Really Important People.

And you don't know everything.

 

[maggieg]

Does the fact that statement stresses that they could use "royal" if they wanted to prove the DM's story from yesterday right that MM was saying to her friends that she could use the branding if she wanted? That story painted her in such a poor light, I can't believe they essentially confirmed it by putting that bit in the statement.

 

[Luna20]

Does the fact that statement stresses that they could use "royal" if they wanted to prove the DM's story from yesterday right that MM was saying to her friends that she could use the branding if she wanted? That story painted her in such a poor light, I can't believe they essentially confirmed it by putting that bit in the statement.

Yes