The British Royal Family #3

[CoverMeCagney]

They are beautiful and the color goes with everything. Very dressy. I like the gold accent at the toe.

I haven't even got a dress sorted yet, but it's a casual summery sort of wedding so I think those wedges would go with pretty much anything?

 

[rosemadderlake]

I think the one rub is the former Presidents all live in the United States. I think Canada or the UK would be a little miffed if the Bushes decided to move to London and required protection. If H&M moved to the Scottish Highlands to raise sheep (my ideal move), I don’t think there’d be this level of concern (though of course there’d be some people...)

Yes, it would be an undue burden on the American taxpayer to provide security for multiple countries.

American presidents were protected for life 1965-1996. Then a bill was passed for ten years of protection in 1997. Then another bill was passed to restore lifetime protection in 2013. With our history of assassinations, and fierce protection of the 2A, they all definitely need security for life.

The security price tag would be high in the US because of gun violence here.

And right now, there’s a lot of people who are not too fond of H&M from all the press. I do wonder how they’ll be received in Britain for their last commitments. The Brits are so polite. But also, when they want to take it to the streets and make a statement like in some of the protests over the last few years, they are quite creative and brilliant.

I can’t imagine it will be less than formal and frosty within the family. H&M have perpetuated a narrative in their oversharing, and motivations that I find so surprising. Especially since I believe Her Majesty offered them her blessing if they didn’t want to be working royals before they got married. That would have been the opportunity to be high profile because of Prince Harry, and start their own foundation. But as it stands now, it’s very, very messy. And every other article is about how the Queen just wants it all over with. Can’t blame her one bit.

 

[Oregonmama]

I don't think little Archie will return next week due to the coronavirus crisis hitting worldwide. I would agree with that decision if he is kept in Canada. Perhaps they might take a private plane that is offered to her but that will cause more backlash. Perhaps MM will skype her appearance because face to face contact will be hard for all next week... JMO

 

[Luna20]

I don't think little Archie will return next week due to the coronavirus crisis hitting worldwide. I would agree with that decision if he is kept in Canada. Perhaps they might take a private plane that is offered to her but that will cause more backlash. Perhaps MM will skype her appearance because face to face contact will be hard for all next week... JMO

It’s going to be a self induced media frenzy of biblical proportions.

 

[Bampot]

Keep the fàith - I think Archie will return and visit the RF.

 

[mickey2942]

I have wondered if the RF will reduce their media presence, due to the virus. Maybe stay away from crowds.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

I think you're right, Rose, they'd solve a few issues for me and I'd get loads more wear out of them. Lightbulb moment!

I might invest in the actual exact ones - Russell & Bromley Coco-Nut if anyone's wondering!!

Wise investment.

 

[Laughing]

I think we're seeing the arrogance of a lifetime of privilege. I kind of expect it from Andrew, Charles etc but I thought that the younger royals had been exposed to enough of the world to at least be a bit more down to earth and realistic about their life choices. I've long thought when we hear about the royals wanting a "normal life" that they don't want what any of us would be considered normal they want what their friends would consider normal which is massive wealth without any of the responsibility of being a member of the royal family, I think they want the life of someone like the Duke of Westminster.



I think what put it in context for me was that Harry and Archie are 6 and 7 in the line of succession exactly where Beatrice and Eugenie were in 2011 when their security was taken away because they weren't senior royals which Harry now isn't either. I don't think anyone has resented B&E paying to live in St. James' or Kensington Palace where there is already security in place so that they're not costing much extra.

I think there has to be equality in this situation and there is no way if a former PM went to live abroad that they would continue providing security at a massively increased cost. I think H&M overestimated their importance and the public's affection for them and willingness to open their coffers indefinitely without a limit. I would say that just like in Canada someone will do a petition about their security funding that will gather thousands of signatures

BBM

Agree with you on this. Counting to 6 & 7 is not all that difficult. When did the paradigm shift?

Head-scratcher for certain. Both these Princesses work, utilizing their college degrees. Going about in public with no security, AFAIK.

Rather like a high-profile person choosing to live a quieter life???

I like both of them better! Unlikely either will eclipse the Countess of Wessex or The Princess Royal for me of course!

image from article:

13 pictures of Princess Anne's visit to Hartlepool’s National Museum of the Royal Navy

 

[Sherwood Park]

I don't think little Archie will return next week due to the coronavirus crisis hitting worldwide. I would agree with that decision if he is kept in Canada. Perhaps they might take a private plane that is offered to her but that will cause more backlash. Perhaps MM will skype her appearance because face to face contact will be hard for all next week... JMO

It wouldn't necessarily be a better decision to keep Archie in Canada, if that's truly where he is.
B.C. has been hit by the virus.

 

[branmuffin]

Welcome, Branmuffin. I agree with everything you've said. Unfortunately some people seem to think they ARE owed information, which presumably is precisely why Harry has made this move in the first place.

Thanks! I was born in England and both my grandmothers had biscuit tins with the Queen's coronation printed on it. As well as tea towels, decorative plates, tea cups, bookmarks, candy dishes, etc etc. The royal family is big business in the UK whether people realize it or not. The economy would take a big hit if they all decided to pull a Harry.

I couldn't live in the fish bowl they live in. On one level they get to see the world, meet famous people, own palaces and yachts, travel in style, and wear fabulous clothes and jewels but they are really just trained seals required to observe protocols that are so restrictive in many ways. No wonder some of them go off the rails sometimes.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I wanna see the medal, that's all! Followed by piccies of the horses, please please?



Wow family resemblance to Cousin Harry in this image!!!

JMHO YMMV

Here's Zara receiving her Olympics silver medal from her mum

 

[branmuffin]

I think the one rub is the former Presidents all live in the United States. I think Canada or the UK would be a little miffed if the Bushes decided to move to London and required protection. If H&M moved to the Scottish Highlands to raise sheep (my ideal move), I don’t think there’d be this level of concern (though of course there’d be some people...)

I think the one rub is the former Presidents all live in the United States. I think Canada or the UK would be a little miffed if the Bushes decided to move to London and required protection. If H&M moved to the Scottish Highlands to raise sheep (my ideal move), I don’t think there’d be this level of concern (though of course there’d be some people...)

It doesn't matter where they live, they will still require round the clock security details. It doesn't matter if Obama goes to Hawaii or Tahiti for a holiday, he and his family still require the mobility of a security detail to trail them. GWB would require a security detail regardless where he travels as do his daughters. Trump has more kids than most presidents; the security details when his kids go hunting in Africa, or travel to Thailand or just go clubbing must be horrendous.

 

[Oregonmama]

It wouldn't necessarily be a better decision to keep Archie in Canada, if that's truly where he is.
B.C. has been hit by the virus.

He would be safer inside his home regardless if BC was hit with the virus

 

[human]

I have read the book that Michelle Obama wrote. Obama who looked like he was talking to a crowd was actually behind bullet proof glass.

A person from NYC told me that Angelina Jolie has layers of body guards.

If people recall the different celebs that got acid on their faces or David Letterman who was stalked by that woman ,one can understand the need for security.

I do not care if they have all of that privilege. It sounds horrible.

And Harry discovered long ago that he wants out. He loved the military because he said that he was just Harry.

But alas, he will never be just Harry. He has talked about it often.

It is too bad some people are too enraged with jealousy to see what he is talking about.

 

[Oregonmama]

RICHARD EDEN: Princess Beatrice and fiance pick his three-year-old son Wolfie to be best man | Daily Mail Online

 

[rosemadderlake]

I think certain royals are wonderful at the job and have found balance in the public and private aspects of the Monarchy. Both Anne and Sophie are great. Same with Eugenie and Bea in their limited capacity. I believe Charles has come into really enjoying his role. And he and Camilla work very well together. Kate and William have found joy in how much joy they bring when they go anywhere, or share their children.

The emotional spin out of H&M feels too much like a scripted version of Diana’s trials, to me. —But Diana was very Royal. She did a wonderful job, and the world fell in love with her. She suffered the humiliation of a very public failed marriage to Charles, and she should have been protected after they divorced.

But H&M come off more like ambulance chasers with the Africa documentary, launching of the website, bickering about their intentions of the use of “royal”, and the oversharing on IG.

I guess what’s surprising to me is how unintelligent their choices have been.

There’s a lovable quality to Harry but to plot with Meghan to exit and profit off of the BRF is just so beneath all things Monarchy. Especially with their name recognition they could start anything, have all kinds of doors open. Harry and Meghan’s recycling bins would sell because of that recognition. So the whole who gets to leave and cash in because they are self important royals or more important royals just feels bitter.

-jmo

 

[Alethea]

It doesn't matter where they live, they will still require round the clock security details. It doesn't matter if Obama goes to Hawaii or Tahiti for a holiday, he and his family still require the mobility of a security detail to trail them. GWB would require a security detail regardless where he travels as do his daughters. Trump has more kids than most presidents; the security details when his kids go hunting in Africa, or travel to Thailand or just go clubbing must be horrendous.

Yes I understand this but the United States government pays for it. You’re comparing brief vacations with a permanent relocation. Harry and Meghan want to leave the country they live in, the country that has provided Harry with security since he was born, and permanently reside in another country. IMO it’s up to the U.K. and Prince Charles to fully pay for whatever security they need. No one is implying that they don’t need security. Just that it’s imposing on a foreign country to show up and demand protection so I understand why Canada said no. I imagine if they decide to relocate to California the United States and the California state government would also expect either the U.K. or Prince Charles to send or pay for their security. Thankfully Prince Charles is wealthy enough to provide the best security in the world for his family if he needed to.

 

[Oregonmama]

Yes I understand this but the United States government pays for it. You’re comparing brief vacations with a permanent relocation. Harry and Meghan want to leave the country they live in, the country that has provided Harry with security since he was born, and permanently reside in another country. IMO it’s up to the U.K. and Prince Charles to fully pay for whatever security they need. No one is implying that they don’t need security. Just that it’s imposing on a foreign country to show up and demand protection so I understand why Canada said no. I imagine if they decide to relocate to California the United States and the California state government would also expect either the U.K. or Prince Charles to send or pay for their security. Thankfully Prince Charles is wealthy enough to provide the best security in the world for his family if he needed to.

There have been many reports that PC doesn't have a lot of money that ppl believe he has. He gave up a lot and had to liquidate during his divorce.

 

[Oregonmama]

Aaron Wudrick from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation (CTF) has cautioned Harry that he faces being given a “chilly reception” in Canada if he goes on the offensive with his global warming campaigning.

Mr Wudrick pointed out that almost half the country and western Canada in particular, where Harry and Meghan have made their new home, relied on the oil and gas industry for an income.

The CTF director, whose organisation has launched a campaign against the federal carbon tax, told Express.co.uk: “We believe in climate change, but we do not support the tool they are using to fight it.

Prince Harry warned against ALIENATING Canadians with climate change campaign

 

[Luna20]

Harry and Meghan are losing security assistance from Canadian police