The camera - is it possible for it to go off on its own?

[ISeeSociopaths]

Bathroom Scenario:
On my initial reading of the crime and viewing the shower photos -esp. the accidental ceiling photo I believed she had the camera hanging from a camera strap. I'm aware that one was found in it's wrapper in the case. But some cases come with two straps- a thick and thin-and obviously TA could have bought one.
Camera never went off on it's own-her elbow or hip knocked it.
One expert said the ceiling photo was taken about 3-4 feet from ground and that would also explain this pic taken from around Arias's waist. I believe it's the only way those floor pics could have been shot as well.
The accidental pic of her kneeling-with TA head in her lap and his shoulder by her thigh may have been snapped If the camera was hanging around her neck but pushed out of the way towards her back therefore at her waist level during the murder- her elbow or hip could have pressed the shutter button-yes it's possible that the camera was on the floor but then the angle would not be the same- and it looks to me downward with her pants hem and sock in the foreground and TA shoulder in the distance-

I think she took the camera strap along with other evidence from the house because it was covered with DNA-I think she threw the camera in the washing machine to destroy Travis's property in another act of violation(FU)And we all Thank Sweet Jesus that she didn't understand that deleting the photos did not delete the digital memory.

TA thought she left-That is why the two hour time between bedroom photos and bathroom photos. JA waited outside house, until roommates were gone. Sneaks through doggie door. Maybe puts up gate along living room to keep dog quiet/secure. Sneaks up stairs. Finds TA camera on landing, takes photos of him in the shower from the hall. He is unaware. There is no flash. Then she announces herself- He is shocked but nothing that JA does surprises him anymore. He goes along with the poses,-has him pose-face to the wall- not a "model" picture-more like a perp picture- the way he has his hands up- Then she shows him the gun-the others with his hands on his chest with wrists close fists clenched-he is protecting himself-
She tells him to sit down- takes face close-up. He looks Scared. I think the torso shot is when she has the gun near his forehead and she takes a photo- then she shoots him- I think he stumbles out of the shower on knees and she drops camera-still around her neck but in her hands and takes accidental shot of ceiling. She is not expecting him to get out of the shower-but she is ready with her tire slashing knife- he grasps at the sink- stands up. The knife is taped to her pant leg.
Stabs back of head,( maybe stabs him in the chest here) but he still lurches or crawls down the hall bleeding, he slips and she gets on his back stabs his back-lifts his head, slits his throat, turns him over leans over him and stabs to the center of the chest(this is why it is the upward motion as described by ME)
This is where next photo taken-
Well I don't have it all figured out...but I definitely think camera was hanging around neck at waist level.
If JM could find evidence that there is a missing camera strap, her whole story goes out the window- the camera never dropped.
Also BTW- I think she may have gone back to the house-maybe she didn't get in- but there is so much time unaccounted for between murder and Salt Lake City. And I think she killed him for several reasons- she owed him money, he finally saw through her lies, and he was going to expose her-He didn't want her especially for marriage and wasn't taking her to Cancun-she definitely was packed to go and even picked up spray tan lotion at walmart with the extra gascan- In her mind it could have gone the other way. In her mind his murder was his own fault...she gave him all the anal sex anyone could ever ask for-and he was ungrateful.ha
And Thanks to everyone!!!All your comments- I love this sight- rather I am addicted to this sight- riveted by this trial. Watching a sociopath/psychopath in action twisting words and lies is a real education for us all=for our protection

 

[AlwaysOnTheCase]

IMO, the camera was on a camera strap. Jodi lies, the camera never dropped.*
I see many people have posted that the final pic of TA alive in shower, his legs are crossed.
If you look closely, his legs aren't crossed. The foot shows the outer part of his ankle, we are seeing his left leg bent, he is sitting over the shower drain, legs not crossed.*
I think that picture is right before she shot him in the head. Perfect angle, fits the forensics.
What is in the bottom of the right corner, looks like something metal, a gun perhaps?...They say a picture says 1000 words, it CERTAINLY does!*:banghead:

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Bathroom Scenario:
On my initial reading of the crime and viewing the shower photos -esp. the accidental ceiling photo I believed she had the camera hanging from a camera strap. I'm aware that one was found in it's wrapper in the case. But some cases come with two straps- a thick and thin-and obviously TA could have bought one.
Camera never went off on it's own-her elbow or hip knocked it.

Nobody is saying in went off on its own, just not intentionally.

One expert said the ceiling photo was taken about 3-4 feet from ground and that would also explain this pic taken from around Arias's waist. I believe it's the only way those floor pics could have been shot as well.
The accidental pic of her kneeling-with TA head in her lap and his shoulder by her thigh may have been snapped If the camera was hanging around her neck but pushed out of the way towards her back therefore at her waist level during the murder- her elbow or hip could have pressed the shutter button-yes it's possible that the camera was on the floor but then the angle would not be the same- and it looks to me downward with her pants hem and sock in the foreground and TA shoulder in the distance-

She's not kneeling and the camera is upside down on the ground.

 

[AlwaysOnTheCase]

Obviously, Jodi didn't intentionally take a pic of the bathroom ceiling, by some miracle these images were captured and gives us a perfect timeline, despite being put through a washing cycle full of bleach. As for Jodi wanting to be a professional photographer, that dream was washed down the shower drain along with TA's life's blood. 2 minutes of "mortal terror" has ruined so many lives. The photos are haunting, but speak volumes, regardless of how they were caught on film.

 

[ExigentPlan]

...The “face shot” is definitely taken through the glass shower door. Pretty much straight on...

Am I correct in assuming that you believe the face shot was done through the shower door because of the suspended water drops? Or am I missing something else?

The suspended water drops are not running down a glass door, they are stopped in motion through the use of a flash. While a typical flash sync shutter speed for a camera may be 1/60 - 1/250 of a second, a low power flash is even faster than that. Typical flash speeds range from 1/1050 of a second to an amazing 1/41600 of a second. This is why flash photography is used to capture and freeze high speed images - because they are faster than the fastest camera shutter speed. Have you ever seen a flash picture stop a hummingbird in flight, or capture the splash of a single water drop? That is why, IMHO, there are what appears to be suspended water drops in that photo - not because they are drops of water on a glass shower door.

 

[Shadowboy]

Am I correct in assuming that you believe the face shot was done through the shower door because of the suspended water drops? Or am I missing something else?

The suspended water drops are not running down a glass door, they are stopped in motion through the use of a flash. While a typical flash sync shutter speed for a camera may be 1/60 - 1/250 of a second, a low power flash is even faster than that. Typical flash speeds range from 1/1050 of a second to an amazing 1/41600 of a second. This is why flash photography is used to capture and freeze high speed images - because they are faster than the fastest camera shutter speed. Have you ever seen a flash picture stop a hummingbird in flight, or capture the splash of a single water drop? That is why, IMHO, there are what appears to be suspended water drops in that photo - not because they are drops of water on a glass shower door.

Well, I’m of the opinion all of the shots were done through the shower door. I know some feel there would be steam, etc. … But my shower doors don’t steam up and, because I keep them clean, the water tends to “sheet” off of them. If the camera were set to “auto focus” on TA, it would focus right through any drops on the door, since the depth of field would have been very small.

You could be right.

However, I, frankly, even hesitate to say, with certainty, that this shot was taken with a flash. Without seeing the originals, it’s hard to tell. All versions of this photo are “brighter” than the others … but it definitely shows pixilation, where the highlights have been brought out of the shadows. Plus, you’d THINK there would be a reflection of the flash in the glass if one had been used (because, again, I think the shower door was shut). As to “drops” frozen in time through the strobe-effect of the flash, a fast shutter speed could have the same result.

At any rate, without the originals and the techniques of a forensic photographic expert, we will probably never know

 

[Shadowboy]

Wow. I'm not seeing it the way you do, but I guess that's what WS is for!

 

[AlwaysOnTheCase]

These pictures of TA in the shower depict so many telling aspects of this case.
There is also a nude pic of Travis on the bed, there is duct tape around his bicep. 2 1/2 hours later there is a clear shot of Travis's right arm, you can see the imprint of the marking left on his arm. I originally thought the naked photos were taken at another time. Clearly, they were taken a few hours before his murder. I thought Jodi was lying about their sexcapades that afternoon. Not really sure what this all means, but they were definately sexual that day. I see some people think they weren't and that Travis had cut her off, but looks like they had interaction that day. However, I'm not buying the rope story for one second. That was fabricated to place the knife upstairs.

 

[Hally]

There is no way to look at the photo's from TA's camera, with out including the photo's from the M.E./Police

We all know what the pics taken from TA's camera before he was murdered, they were taken by JA, also those after the murder. It's those inbetween pics that have ?s.

The one picture I would like everyone to focus on, is the sink picture of blood, the last picture of TA standing.

Without getting into every pic/detail/timeline. My guess is that JA may have had a gun pointed to him while taking the photo's in the shower while he was still alive. Maybe the gun jammed, as many gun experts on WS have said. It doesn't matter. Weather he had a gun pointed at him or not. Because I 100% believe he was stabbed in the heart first. Which is prven by that picture of the sink, he was standing over it spewing blood from internal bleeding.

I think JA left and went to the bedroom, and as soon as she heard him spitting went back into the BR, and wit him facing the sink, his back facing her she stabbed him over, and over again. He probably fell to the ground immediately. Her thinking this is the end, probably went back to the bed trying to think about covering her tracks.

Mean while I think TA knew he was dying, he saw the camera. Now, comes the JA unknown pictures of the hallway, and her moving the body.

At this point think TA saw the camera, grabbed it and scooted his way to the hallway with the camera. I thik he dropped the camera on his way, and while scooting to the end of the hallway for help - JA saw him at the end of the hallway and slashed his throat. On her way back dragging his sliced, decapated body the camera went off and took a picture albeit, the timer was obviously set.

She threw him in the shower, realized the camera was there in the hallway, and went back and took the last pictures. Sick B**ch she is.

MOO, ofcoarse. The one question out of all the jurors that stood in my mind was when a juror asked her if TA moved the camera. Her response and the only time she responded this way - is well I thought about that. Some of you are good at getting videos this would be a good one.

I am a firm believer as few have said - that she mixes some truth with her messed up fantasies. SO, a big red flag for me on this. Is also provides some sense as to how TA ended up in the hallway, as well as the camera.

Remember this all took place with in two minutes.

EDIT: There is no way that camera was wrapped around her neck, in that case at all times it would be facing forward.

 

[AlwaysOnTheCase]

With all due respect to people's opinions, which I am very interested in hearing/reading.
It would be difficult to hold a camera in one hand while brutally attacking someone.*
The camera photos were shot (during a murder, in 2 mins) first in the bathroom, then 16 feet down the hallway, then back in the bathroom again. I don't think either party, Jodi or Travis would be moving a camera to three different places during this struggle. That's why I believe it's around her neck.*
My camera strap is waist length and I can't take a photo from any angle. Just another reason why I don't believe her story of *"I dropped the camera, it bounced twice on the bathmat, then rolled onto the tile"
I do, however think her lies are based on some actual truths as well. She did light up like a Christmas tree when she was asked if Travis might have moved the camera. She also had the same look when her sloth like attorney asks her if it's possible she straightened up the closet after she climbed on the shelf to grab the infamous gun, totally laughable.
Just food for thought for Jodi, so she can spin another unbelievable tale, that no one will ever believe.*
We also never see blood spatter from the impact of the bullet hitting his head, because it was washed down the drain & shower walls.*
We do see blood spatter from aspirating it out if his lungs at the sink, the blood dripping from his defense wounds from his hands.
We also see all the thick arterial blood pool on the rug where she slit his throat.*
Any sequence of this horrific death is hard to comprehend. I don't know if we'll ever truly know the actual events and how it unfolded on that fatal night. The evidence is right in front of us and putting all the pieces together, so it fits perfectly is the key. Hopefully, Juan Martinez proves premeditation beyond a reasonable doubt. So far, so good!

 

[Debbierio]

you mean to sya she had a kid or did u mean somehting else??

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

With all due respect to people's opinions, which I am very interested in hearing/reading.
It would be difficult to hold a camera in one hand while brutally attacking someone.*

Yes, that's why she dropped it.

The camera photos were shot (during a murder, in 2 mins) first in the bathroom, then 16 feet down the hallway, then back in the bathroom again. I don't think either party, Jodi or Travis would be moving a camera to three different places during this struggle. That's why I believe it's around her neck.*

No way, for the last 2 shots the camera was on the ground upside down.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

Yes, I did mean that it appears she may have given birth to a child at some time in her past. I'd love to have an obstetrician/gynecologist's opinion on this, rather than my own.

Re the photo with the foot and leg in it: I think the medical opinions are that his throat had not been slit at this point. Because his head and shoulder are up off the floor.

A horrible crime by a horrible, horrible woman!

 

[christee]

Here's another link to good info about Travis's camera including the continuous shooting options. There's quite a bit more info at the link.

Sony Cyber-shot DSC-H9 continuous shooting
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The Sony H9 offers a continuous shooting mode and a selection of exposure bracketing options accessed by pressing the dedicated Burst / Brk button on the top surface. By default the H9 starts in Normal mode for single shots. Press the button once and you&#8217;re in Continuous shooting mode. Press it again and you&#8217;re in Brk +/-0.3 mode which fires off three shots in quick succession with exposure bracketing of -1/3 EV and +1/3EV. Then there&#8217;s two further bracketing modes which extend the compensation to +/-2/3EV and +/-1EV.

Sony quotes a continuous shooting rate of just over two frames per second up to 100 frames. We fitted a 256MB Sony Memory Stick Pro Duo and fired off 20 frames in 9.8 seconds, confirming Sony&#8217;s rate. It&#8217;s certainly not particularly speedy in terms of continuous shooting, but at least you can keep shooting for long sequences.

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/SonyH9/sensor.shtml

 

[geevee]

Yes there was a neck strap for the camera but it was not attached to the camera. It was found unused in the camera bag.

JA testified that she had two cameras of her own with her, one that she always kept in her purse (and her purse can be seen at the end of the bed in the nudie pics with TA lying down). She may have had her own neck or wrist strap that she could have used on TA's camera, considering the 2nd to last pic was taken behind her leg it seems a neck-strapped camera may not be able to take that shot but a camera on a wrist strap probably could.

 

[geevee]

Ok I have a question. Jodi said she wanted to show Travis some pictures. Speaking of her crotch shots.
Couldn't she have taken a picture of a picture? It would still have the June 4,2008 date and time right?

I just took a picture of my great grandparents. My camera says it was taken a few minutes ago. They have been deceased since before I was born.

Clearly she was still alive at the time... Is there a way to tell if it was a picture of a picture?
Maybe she already had those shots prior to June 4th?

Obviously the pics of her on the bed in braids were that day due to her brown hair...
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Wasn't her hair color in the pic JM showed of her with her sister the same brown color as it is in the nudie shots? I too was thinking she either copied the pics onto the memory stick or took pics of pics. I'm not convinced at all that those nudie pics were taken the same day, and am even less convinced they had sex that day. The chances of a man sending a text like he did on 5-25 or 5-26 and less than two weeks later have a big sex and picture taking party with 'the worst thing that ever happened to me'? I don't think so.

 

[Melanie]

I was wondering what type of camera it is too.

I have a Canon DSL and you can use the timer to take multiple pictures w/out having to touch the camera again, however, they'd all be spaced the exact amt of time apart. For instance, the camera may automatically take pictures three seconds apart, or 30 seconds apart. I dont think it will take one 10 seconds, then 8 seconds after thet and then another 60 seconds past that. They would all be equally spaced.

In that case, I would expect for there to be more pictures than just the 2 that we've seen (the ceiling and the photo of her dragging Travis).

If the camera was set on auto - why did it stop after 2 pics? And I agree the photos would be equally spaced vs. the time stamps we've seen.

Is it possible JA took the photos herself in the struggle? Perhaps. I think that's more plausible. Do I see this monster taking pictures of her killing Travis? I certainly wouldn't put that past her.

MOO

Mel

 

[christee]

JA testified that she had two cameras of her own with her, one that she always kept in her purse (and her purse can be seen at the end of the bed in the nudie pics with TA lying down). She may have had her own neck or wrist strap that she could have used on TA's camera, considering the 2nd to last pic was taken behind her leg it seems a neck-strapped camera may not be able to take that shot but a camera on a wrist strap probably could.

I suppose it's possible she brought a neck strap with her and used it, but she couldn't have had the camera on a strap around her neck when the dragging pic was snapped because the camera was upside down and she was obviously on her feet. I doubt she would have taken the neck strap off the camera after the ceiling shot.
For me the unanswered questions regarding the camera may never be known because Jodi is a liar and 99.9% of the information she has given are lies.

Quote from page 18 of Detective Flores' report (which I think was quoted in a previous post)...

"The next photo was taken at 1733 hours. This photo was dark and the image was unclear. Once it was enhanced it was clear it had been taken while the camera was upside down and possibly by accident."

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http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/floresinvestigationreport.pdf

 

[geevee]

I suppose it's possible she brought a neck strap with her and used it, but she couldn't have had the camera on a strap around her neck when the dragging pic was snapped because the camera was upside down and she was obviously on her feet. I doubt she would have taken the neck strap off the camera after the ceiling shot.
For me the unanswered questions regarding the camera may never be known because Jodi is a liar and 99.9% of the information she has given are lies.

Quote from page 18 of Detective Flores' report (which I think was quoted in a previous post)...

"The next photo was taken at 1733 hours. This photo was dark and the image was unclear. Once it was enhanced it was clear it had been taken while the camera was upside down and possibly by accident."

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http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/floresinvestigationreport.pdf

Yes, I agree it couldn't have been taken with a neck strap, but possibly with a wrist strap.

 

[christee]

Yes, I agree it couldn't have been taken with a neck strap, but possibly with a wrist strap.

My apologies I misread your words about JA not using a neck strap.
:doh:
I don't remember if a wrist strap was found with the camera's items in the camera bag. Why wear a wrist strap if she had a neck strap? If it was her strap on her wrist it would be really awkward to accidentally snap a pic as clear as that pic is...she would have had to stop what she was doing and push down on a tilted, upside down camera but why do that when she could pick it up and snap a pic? If she did have the camera on a wrist strap it's possible the strap could have broken.