The case for murder

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I haven't found a valid reason yet why Adam was ruled out as a POI. He doesn't have a "decent" alibi. He had access to the house and computer at 3:00 AM the morning of her death and he was up and about prowling around at 6:30 AM. Also, Adam did not pass the LDT with "flying colors" as was told to Mary. So why was he ruled out?

Probably some "back room" goings on between Gore and Paul Pfingst.......IMO.
 
I haven't found a valid reason yet why Adam was ruled out as a POI. He doesn't have a "decent" alibi. He had access to the house and computer at 3:00 AM the morning of her death and he was up and about prowling around at 6:30 AM. Also, Adam did not pass the LDT with "flying colors" as was told to Mary. So why was he ruled out?

Exactly what I would love to know. And where is "Adam" since all of this went down? Thanks.
 
Exactly what I would love to know. And where is "Adam" since all of this went down? Thanks.

Adam went back to Memphis......purchased a house in January of this year, was seen waiting at the front gate to Jonah's PV house just before Christmas (in a new truck)...........
 
Jonah's father is in his early 80s, and the step-mother is around 65......in pics of them that I have seen they look to be in good shape and appear active. The father is a painter BTW.

Everyone's family is different. I know I would not want my eighty year old father there because he would just sit around with nothing to do and he's not good in emotional or health crisis situations. I would probably call every day or so with an update. I probably would have asked him to come and say goodbye the day before Max was taken off life support though. However, I wouldn't have called him in earlier due to the fact that Max was in a coma and there would be nothing he could do but sit and wait.

That's not to say if he insisted on coming I would say no because I wouldn't do that. Also, because then I would know he could probably handle it.

If I were Jonah's father I would have insisted on coming no matter what Jonah said but everyone's different. I wonder like you do what actually happened here. Maybe another insider knows and can say?
 
Everyone's family is different. I know I would not want my eighty year old father there because he would just sit around with nothing to do and he's not good in emotional or health crisis situations. I would probably call every day or so with an update. I probably would have asked him to come and say goodbye the day before Max was taken off life support though. However, I wouldn't have called him in earlier due to the fact that Max was in a coma and there would be nothing he could do but sit and wait.

That's not to say if he insisted on coming I would say no because I wouldn't do that. Also, because then I would know he could probably handle it.

If I were Jonah's father I would have insisted on coming no matter what Jonah said but everyone's different. I wonder like you do what actually happened here. Maybe another insider knows and can say?

Since Jonah's father and step-mother were at Max's birthday, and also at ES's Bar Mitzvah, it would seem as though they would have made the trip to say good bye to Max, and to be there for Jonah.
 
Paul Pfingst was there that day and purportedly not to represent Jonah. Rebecca was dead. So that leaves Adam, no?

My guess is that Pfingst was "retained" by Jonah........for the purpose of keeping Adam from becoming a POI.
 
Since Jonah's father and step-mother were at Max's birthday, and also at ES's Bar Mitzvah, it would seem as though they would have made the trip to say good bye to Max, and to be there for Jonah.

You or I may have done that but how can we know why Jonah's father did not come. It does seem that he was very involved with Jonah's life so I am surprised that he just didn't come on his own no matter what the possible scenario. Unless he was ill but that doesn't seem likely.
 
My guess is that Pfingst was "retained" by Jonah........for the purpose of keeping Adam from becoming a POI.

I agree. That is the only logical conclusion under the circumstances. I'm impressed with Jonah's connection to such a high power and politically connected attorney. I would imagine that Pfingst carries a lot of political clout. Match that with Gore's friendship with Dumanis and you have Jonah's dream team, imo.
 
Adam went back to Memphis......purchased a house in January of this year, was seen waiting at the front gate to Jonah's PV house just before Christmas (in a new truck)...........

Well, that answers my question as to how religious Jonah was. Apparently he's not "observant" if he's celebrating Christmas and possibly handing out pricey gifts like trucks to a brother he doesn't get along with and who only supported him for 2 days during the worst crisis of his life, imo.
 
Inparadise, I always find myself thinking about what you wrote way after I read it. All this talk about Jonah's father made me start thinking about Dina's mother and whether she was able to come to visit Max while he was still alive.

IIrc, she may have been ill at that time. However, it does seem fishy that Dina's and Jonah's parents weren't there. Since most of us look at our parents as authority figures no matter how old we get to become, I'm wondering if the parents weren't welcome because their grown kids were busy with other things besides keeping a bedside vigil for Max.

This question just occurred to me also. If Jonah and Dina were not keeping a bedside vigil like they wanted everyone to believe, then why? What were they each/both doing when not at Max's bedside?
 
I agree. That is the only logical conclusion under the circumstances. I'm impressed with Jonah's connection to such a high power and politically connected attorney. I would imagine that Pfingst carries a lot of political clout. Match that with Gore's friendship with Dumanis and you have Jonah's dream team, imo.

Pfingst was the DA in San Diego for 8 years.......he, Gore and Bonnie are tight friends. Prior to Gore joining the SDSO, he was a special investigator for the DA.
 
Inparadise, I always find myself thinking about what you wrote way after I read it. All this talk about Jonah's father made me start thinking about Dina's mother and whether she was able to come to visit Max while he was still alive.

IIrc, she may have been ill at that time. However, it does seem fishy that Dina's and Jonah's parents weren't there. Since most of us look at our parents as authority figures no matter how old we get to become, I'm wondering if the parents weren't welcome because their grown kids were busy with other things besides keeping a bedside vigil for Max.

This question just occurred to me also. If Jonah and Dina were not keeping a bedside vigil like they wanted everyone to believe, then why? What were they each/both doing when not at Max's bedside?

I don't believe that Nancy Romano came to San Diego while Max was in the hospital. If you recall, she was interviewed a couple of times by the local media the day that Rebecca's body was discovered. It was she who told them that it was Jonah's girlfriend of 2 or 3 years.........And then, all of a sudden, she refused to speak with the media.
 
Since Jonah's father and step-mother were at Max's birthday, and also at ES's Bar Mitzvah, it would seem as though they would have made the trip to say good bye to Max, and to be there for Jonah.

Where would they stay, except at the mansion?. It would have been very awkward for Rebecca to "hang herself" with all the running around she would have had to do to get all the items she needed to accomplish that, right?
 
Where would they stay, except at the mansion?. It would have been very awkward for Rebecca to "hang herself" with all the running around she would have had to do to get all the items she needed to accomplish that, right?

Are you serious? I would think that perhaps Jonah didn't want them to come and stay at Spreckels or in the guest house because he didn't want any "extra" people there. Why else did he send Rebecca's sister home so quickly and insist on the dog being boarded?
 
Are you serious? I would think that perhaps Jonah didn't want them to come and stay at Spreckels or in the guest house because he didn't want any "extra" people there. Why else did he send Rebecca's sister home so quickly and insist on the dog being boarded?

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make. Since we know it was murder, the parents couldn't be there to see what was happening, and what reason would Jonah have for them to be somewhere else? So, my thinking was that he dissuaded them from coming at all.
 
Yes, that was the point I was trying to make. Since we know it was murder, the parents couldn't be there to see what was happening, and what reason would Jonah have for them to be somewhere else? So, my thinking was that he dissuaded them from coming at all.

My sincerest apologies. I misunderstood your post and thought that you were being sarcastic. Of course I agree with you........he needed to keep everyone who was not part of his plan away.
 
Respectfully snipped from suicide thread.

if indeed RN was told that night that she had to move out or leave, I can feel her suicide,

here's what I think if this indeed happened.

she went from hero to zero

there is something hinky in the death of Max...and this girl went from being the family prize, with a billionaire for a potential husband, to a shamed and discarded person with no power, no legal rights and only the clothes on her back, which sound like basically just bikini's.

I think it's very possible that she was involved in the death of Max. Some women are not how we perceive them behind closed doors... a very active child like Max can be extremely annoying, especially when it's not your kid.

I think she may have stood on the edge of the chair and kicked it backwards behind her,
possibly just having a shoulder or part of her knee actually touch the rail.

at any rate, has anyone found any bondage like this in any movies like the housemaid?

I think there is chance that she liked this film genre...and I think she killed herself out of
anger and humiliation in front of her family, losing her worth by losing her man. I don't think she was focused on Max, only focused on trying to retain her tenure in the household.

I still think the police know something, and that it may not be the first time RN has tied herself up or been tied up.

Not sure what you mean by she went from "hero to zero"?

Becky was a humble modest woman who also spoke her mind and expressed her feelings -- negative and positive ones -- in healthy, constructive ways. She was a healthy young vibrant woman who loved life and her family, especially her sisters. Mary was her best friend.

I don't believe for one second that Becky was a melodrama queen who inflated her own ego and thought she was flawless and perfect, as you have insinuated here. The only person who seems to characterize herself that way is Dina, who described herself as a "statuesque", brilliant, renaissance goddess/perfect mother to Max to the author of the "Boy Interrupted" article. The only person who flies off the handle in a violent rage is Dina. The only one who drinks to oblivion and cannot wake up when the cops are pounding at her door to alert her of her beloved child's critical accident is Dina.

Let's not get carried away with Dina's projections onto an innocent, beautiful young woman of 32 like Becky.

If anyone is a melodrama queen, it's Dina who from all the evidence we have, is the prime suspect in Becky's murder. Dina must have felt like -- as you say -- a big ZERO -- because she lost not only Jonah to Becky, but also Max and the wealth, status and power that accompanied the life she had once lived with Jonah. That in and of itself is motive for Dina to want Becky dead.

Vengeance, hatred, jealousy, bitterness, plus drunken stupors were all Dina's motives. Couple those vices with losing the loves of her life Jonah AND Max and the "good life of money, status, and power", and we have the making of the perfect storm for a murderer.
 
Please stop posting about other posters. Also, let's stop the continued arguing.

Just agree to disagree and move on. No one has to have the last word.

TIA
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