The Christmas Night photos

[DeeDee249]

Maybe he later said the window was open as he thought about various "intruder" scenarios to tell LE. Of course, we don't know if the window was in fact open, do we? He may have opened it, called in FW to show him (because as I recall, in PMPT, he called FW over to the window and said "Look, this is broken, I broke it last summer when I was locked out". ) It may never have been open till that moment. Colorado Decembers get fairly cold, I think. BR played down there, there was a laundry area, storage, and all those Christmas decorations that were taken up for the Christmas house tour. I can't believe they's have let a window stay broken all that time with the cold and draft.

 

[Toltec]

Police were called at exactly 5:52am.

Whites and Fernies called.

Officer Rick French then checked out the house. He went down to the basement looking for a way the kidnapper entered the home. I've never heard Officer French's story...if he found the window open or not.

Fleet White checks the basement. He finds broken glass but again nothing about an open window.

Sgt. Reichenbach enters the basement. He takes photos but no mention of an open window.

John Ramsey enters the basement. Finds the window open....closes it.

John and Fleet enter the basement. John tells Fleet he broke the window last summer.

 

[Toltec]

About the butler door being open....John Ramsey told Steve Thomas he went outside to check a garage door to see if that could have been point of entry.

 

[Nehemiah]

But what about her saying and John saying and Burke saying "she walked into the house". That is pretty damning also.

Perhaps, but the thread is about the photos and what was possibly on them, i.e. the red turtleneck.

 

[rashomon]

Rash,

Why do you think he later on said the window was open?? Really interested in your opinion.

Good question, Solace. It depends on how 'forensically aware' John Ramsey was. If he was, after doing some thinking, he may have been afraid someone had actually seen him close the window. Or he may have been afraid his fingerprints from the earlier staging would be found on the window.
The other possibility is that it was a simple slip-up on his part, similar to the many slip-ups Jeffrey MacDonald made in his infamous April 6th/1970 interview. John may have provided the info about having closed the window without being aware of how suspect he would come across in not having alerted the police to the open window at once.

Does anyone remember if John Ramsey has ever been asked about this in an interview: why he hadn't told the police about the open window right away?

 

[Solace]

Good question, Solace. It depends on how 'forensically aware' John Ramsey was. If he was, after doing some thinking, he may have been afraid someone had actually seen him close the window. Or he may have been afraid his fingerprints from the earlier staging would be found on the window.
The other possibility is that it was a simple slip-up on his part, similar to the many slip-ups Jeffrey MacDonald made in his infamous April 6th/1970 interview. John may have provided the info about having closed the window without being aware of how suspect he would come across in not having alerted the police to the open window at once.

Does anyone remember if John Ramsey has ever been asked about this in an interview: why he hadn't told the police about the open window right away?

Thanks Rash. I agree with you and I am curious - maybe he says so in DOI, but I would doubt it, but he might.

 

[DeeDee249]

I think I recall seeing an interview with him where he siad that he doesn't know why he closed it and doesn't know why he didn't tell the police. And that was that. He just said "I just don't know why".

 

[Ames]

I think I recall seeing an interview with him where he siad that he doesn't know why he closed it and doesn't know why he didn't tell the police. And that was that. He just said "I just don't know why".

Are you sure that he didn't say.."I just don't know why..you will have to ask Patsy"? That was usually their answer for everything...."I don't know, you will have to ask John, maybe he will know". "I don't know, you will have to ask Patsy, maybe she will know".

 

[JMO8778]

Police were called at exactly 5:52am.

Whites and Fernies called.

Officer Rick French then checked out the house. He went down to the basement looking for a way the kidnapper entered the home. I've never heard Officer French's story...if he found the window open or not.

Only thing I've read on that is there was no sign of forced entry.

 

[JMO8778]

Thanks Rash. I agree with you and I am curious - maybe he says so in DOI, but I would doubt it, but he might.

nope.