The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 11th -12th June - Trial Days 2 & 3 - Week 1

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 22s

Ms Scully says Gerard told her to "help the police" if they came to the office. #badenclay

Next is Kate Rankin, who worked at Century 21 Westside. In 2011, she was an assistant property manager. #badenclay

Ms Rankin says she spoke to Gerard about Toni McHugh leaving the business. Gerard told her Allison had found out about the affair.

Ms Rankin said Gerard told her he was going to try and work on his marriage. #badenclay http://bit.ly/badenclayday2

Ms Rankin says on the Friday, she and Allison were to go to a conference together. She doesn't remember how far in advance it was booked.

On Thursday, April 19, 2012, Ms Rankin says she saw Allison at work. They only spoke briefly. #badenclay

Ms Rankin: She seemed normal and she was in good spirits about the training that morning. #badenclay

 

[Amee]

3:04pm: The eleventh witness to take the stand was Elizabeth Scully, who worked as a property maintenance manager at Mr Baden-Clay's Century 21 real estate agency.

She told the court she too became aware of Mr Baden-Clay's affair with her colleague Toni McHugh in late 2011.

It was around the same time Ms McHugh left the real estate agency and Mrs Baden-Clay began working four days a week at the agency.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ay-2-week-1-20140611-39wcd.html#ixzz34IuqO737

 

[DrWatson]

I have to admit being a little puzzled, too, by the prosecution's strategy today - I know it's only day 2, but it seems very wishy-washy and random. What picture are they trying to paint? Whatever it is, Michael Byrne will be able to shoot it down in no time flat!

I wonder when they will start actually presenting witnesses and evidence, no matter how circumstantial, that is directed at implicating the accused? Where is the science, the forensics, the witnesses? Where is that blinkin' ROUNDABOUT?

Maybe I'm just a bit impatient, and perhaps they're just putting these witnesses up there so they can be cross-examined and "got out of the way" so to speak? But I'm not sure what their strategy actually is?

Sigh - breathe in, breathe out, relax, and swallow the tablet...! Must be patient, and trust that the prosecution actually have a case.

 

[drsleuth]

Ms Rankin says Allison was not involved in the business until after Toni McHugh left. #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · now

Ms Rankin says she was aware of the affair before being told by Gerard. Says she knew for a couple of months. #badenclay

Ms Rankin says Allison took over the duties of one of the partners, Ben Bassingthwaite. #badenclay

Ms Rankin re Gerard: He was always very pleasant with me. #badenclay

Ms Rankin says Gerard told her he was going to try and fix his marriage. #badenclay

 

[coolcat]

And that GBC seemed to have some odd bruising and a cut hand and scratches on his face at the time of her dissapearing on a 14km walk


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I have a feeling this is why it was mentioned yesterday that one of the police officers had a fall the day they found Allison's body.... Maybe they are establishing that GBC may have got his bruising or scratches due to the rough and dangerous terrain - hence why he had that mysterious car accident a few days after her disappearance to have an excuse for his pre existing injuries (Maybe he did fall that night whilst disposing of his wife's body?)

Side Note: I think he was saving his tears for court because he certainly didn't display his emotions whilst "everyone else" was looking for Allison - I cant wait to hear what his excuse is for all this odd behaviour - I hope this is highlighted throughout the trial??

 

[Amee]

3:10pm: The twelfth witness to take the stand was Kate Louise Rankin who worked as a property manager for Mr Baden-Clay's Century 21 real estate agency at Targina.

She was due to attend a Real Estate Institute of Queensland conference with Mrs Baden-Clay on Friday, April 20, 2012.

Mrs Baden-Clay was reported missing that morning.

Ms Rankin said she had been aware of Mr Baden-Clay's affair with Toni McHugh for some months before Mr Baden-Clay told her of it personally.

Under cross-examination from defence counsel Michael Byrne, QC, Ms Rankin said Mr Baden-Clay had been a "good boss".

"He was always very pleasant with me," she said.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ay-2-week-1-20140611-39wcd.html#ixzz34Iw7epHM

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 24s

Next is Monique Waymouth, a hairdresser from Epic Hair Designs in Kenmore. She saw Allison on April 19, 2012. #badenclay



Ms Waymouth coloured Allison's hair on April 19, 2012. She says Allison was "a little bit stressed" and "fairly quiet". #badenclay

Ms Waymouth says she thinks Allison was stressed from the amount of traffic on the way to the hairdressers. #badenclay

Ms Rankin agrees that when she said "OK, let's put in some foils", Allison didn't reply. She says Allison told her she had been unwell.Ms Rankin agrees that when she said "OK, let's put in some foils", Allison didn't reply. She says Allison told her she had been unwell.



Ms Waymouth says Allison seemed happy with her hair when she left the salon. #badenclay

 

[Trooper]

so far, it seems a clean sweep of the office people who knew about the affair, were aware that Toni was fired , and that Gerard told them the affair was over..

not only gaslighting Alison but all the gals at work, too.. and the guys..

from the business partners statements, Jocelyn Frost, in particular, all of them were insistent that Gerard get rid of Toni post haste.. out of the business and out of his life, and in addition, it was about time he showed them the real books of the dollar figures.. the lack of transparency re money and Toni were too big a lump of Dead Sea Fruit for the partners to swallow..

 

[itsthevibe]

I fear the prosecution's modus operandi today - to establish that Allison was "happy" and "looking to the future" on the day of and prior to her death - is risky. There are many, many instances of suicide that are immediately prefaced by a seemingly happy passage of activity. Families and friends are completely shocked and gobsmacked ... didn't see it coming. The act may be set off by a single hair-trigger, the roots of which lay deep in the past. GBC telling Allison about TM being at the conference the next day could have served as a hair-trigger, the defence could well argue. Most psychologists would have to argue that this is possible because really anything is possible in the complex area of depression/anxiety. I fear the prosecution may achieve little going down this road today.

Personally, a more convincing argument against the suicide theory is that she had her hair done that afternoon. No woman wastes a good blowdry. I'm sorry but there it is.

Yes, I know it seems trivial, but it is actually not. While some things can 'hair-trigger' a bad reaction, semmingly small things can trigger a positive reaction. Aside from not wanting to waste a good blowdry, I know that I alwys feel better when I've had my hair done. Even when I have been feeling depressed, those times when I've been to the hairdresser, my hair looks great, maybe also gone for coffee or a meal with a friend after or had a nice sweet treat or some nice gourmet food were the times I always felt the best. I think that Allison would have felt confident and happy when she went home after having her hair done and meeting her friend. She would have been angry when she discovered that TM was supposed to be going to the conference the next day, and probably a bit more confident in pushing her point, hence possibly a more heated argument. I'm sure that didn't go the way GBC had hoped.

it was mentioned in the past by someone, and I admit may have been rumour, that he planned to murder her at a later time, but things escalated that night because of the TM conference thing, and he just went ahead and did it earlier without having thought it all through and planning every detail

(Just read hairdressers evidence - but still think that after hair was done and meeting friend Allison would have felt a lot better.)

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
Ms Mollah says she and Allison did some business things together, they'd catch up for lunches and see each other at school. #badenclay

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Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
On the stand now is Wendy Mollah. Wendy knew Allison through the school. Their children were in the same class. #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou

On the stand now is Wendy Mollah. Wendy knew Allison through the school. Their children were in the same class. #badenclay

Ms Mollah says she and Allison did some business things together, they'd catch up for lunches and see each other at school. #badenclay

Ms Mollah: She was a wonderful, wonderful mother. Very caring of them. #badenclay http://bit.ly/badenclayday2

 

[Trooper]

Only Gerard knows if Alison knew that Toni would be at the conference.....

She may have been dead before he got round to that little detail.


He had told Toni only hours before that he was leaving Alison and selling the business.....

which points out to me that he was gaslighting Toni , too.. there was no business to sell. It was on it's knees and falling further.. He owed more on the business than he could sell it for, and really, the only person who could buy it would be Tarbey, the franchise owner, but he owed Tarbey about 6 months franchise fees, plus he had borrowed $30,000 off him , as well. Theoretically, Gerard selling the business would be at a zero-minus account..

 

[drsleuth]

3:21pm: The 14th witness to take the stand is Wendy Elizabeth Mollah.

Her son attended Brookfield State School with the Baden-Clay's eldest daughter.

She often caught up for lunch with Mrs Baden-Clay. "I would go over to her place, or she would come over to ours for a swim with the children," she said.

Ms Mollah described Mrs Baden-Clay as a "wonderful mother".

"She was a wonderful, wonderful mother," she said.

3:18pm: The thirteenth witness to take the stand was hairdresser Monique Waymouth.

She coloured Mrs Baden-Clay's hair at Epic Hair Designs at Kenmore Plaza on April 19 at 4pm.

"She seemed a little bit stressed when she came in and then she was quiet," Ms Waymouth said.

"She wasn't very talkative."

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ay-2-week-1-20140611-39wcd.html#ixzz34Iz7OEFe

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
Ms Mollah says she became aware of Gerard having an affair and told Allison about it. #badenclay

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Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
Ms Mollah says she and Allison attended a real estate course together. Allison didn't want Gerard to know. #badenclay

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Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
Ms Mollah: She was a wonderful, wonderful mother. Very caring of them. #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 27s

Ms Mollah says she and Allison attended a real estate course together. Allison didn't want Gerard to know. #badenclay

Ms Mollah says she became aware of Gerard having an affair and told Allison about it. #badenclay

Ms Mollah: On the day that I told her, she told me she was going to talk to Gerard. #badenclay

Ms Mollah says Allison confronted her husband and he confessed. Allison asked Ms Mollah to come to the house to "support her".

Ms Mollah says she thinks it was in Sept, 2011. The affair was with a woman named Toni from Gerard's work. #badenclay

Ms Mollah says Allison told Gerard she didn't want Toni working there anymore. #badenclay

Ms Mollah says she had dinner with Allison a couple of weeks later and she seemed "absolutely fine". #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
Ms Mollah says Allison confronted her husband and he confessed. Allison asked Ms Mollah to come to the house to "support her".

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Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou
Ms Mollah: On the day that I told her, she told me she was going to talk to Gerard. #badenclay


David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 2m
Allison and Ms Mollah were doing a real estate course together. Allison didn't want Gerard to know. #badenclay

 

[Trooper]

Brave woman, Mrs Mollah... that takes courage..

 

[drsleuth]

Ms Mollah says Gerard had agreed to ask Toni to leave the business. #badenclay


Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 41s

Ms Mollah spoke to Gerard on the morning of April 20. He asked her whether she'd spoken to Allison that morning. #badenclay

Ms Mollah said Gerard told her Allison had gone for a walk and not returned. #badenclay

On April 21, Ms Mollah says she texted Gerard on April 21 about the search. Gerard said police had asked them to leave it to professionals.

Ms Mollah says Gerard sounded very casual when she spoke to him the day Allison disappeared. #badenclay

 

[AAAA]

Is anyone else wondering why, during the talk about the jumper over her head and the autopsy there was no mention of the white glove tip?

 

[Trooper]

I'm thinking that Gerard never actually got to the part of telling Allison about Toni and the conference... Alison obviously didn't ring Kate Rankin and cancel their arrangement, or perhaps Alison told Gerard to tell Toni not to go..

mystery