The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 18th June - Trial Day 6, Week 2

[Freya1977]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 53s

Dr Stark says it's hard to age injuries, many factors to be considered. They're hours or days old #badenclay

 

[Mumma Bear]

Police attended at Bwana-Castle at some stage didn't they? I wonder what they were offered their tea or coffee in? Mugs or cup & saucer?

 

[Freya1977]

Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 53s

Dr Stark says marks on face don't appear to be fresh, not within last couple of hours, but hard to tell. @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay



Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 54s

Dr Stark says photo shows 2 types of injuries. One older than the other. But says it's an interpretation from a photo. #badenclay @abcnews

 

[Freya1977]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 37s

New photos shows same facial injuries with a ruler next to them #badenclay

 

[Freya1977]

Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 22s

Dr Stark says two different types of wounds, appears one older than the other. @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay



Jamie McKinnell ‏@jamie86 35s

Dr stark points out it's difficult to be precise about timing of two injuries, would be better to examine in person @NewsTalk4BC #badenclay

 

[Amee]

Maybe Mrs Dickie could smell bleach? :twocents:

If Mrs Dickie smelt it Im sure the police would have as well. No mention of bleach though
:moo:

 

[Freya1977]

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 44s

Dr Stark says injuries are hours or days old. Says it's imprecise. #badenclay @abcnews

 

[Venus13]

10:30am:

Sergeant Jackson asked: "Gerard, the cut that's on your hand, what's that?"

"Helping my friend renovate his house," Mr Baden-Clay replied.

Senior Sergeant Curtis said: "There doesn't seem to be a reason why she would have done this this morning."

Mr Baden-Clay replied: "And that's what's bothering me."

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ay-6-week-2-20140618-3ackc.html#ixzz34wjXnfvh

Sorry if it has already been answered? I remember something in the early stages about he stated he did the cuts on hand changing a light bulb in another house?

 

[Freya1977]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 28s

Dr Stark says dot marks next to Gerard's mouth look like an abrasion, couldn't be precise about when they were caused #badenclay

 

[possumheart]

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 44s

Dr Stark says injuries are hours or days old. Says it's imprecise. #badenclay @abcnews

Not sounding like fresh that morning, then.

 

[Freya1977]

If Mrs Dickie smelt it Im sure the police would have as well. No mention of bleach though
:moo:

I'm sure she would have testified to that too....

 

[Fuskier]

Just a brief comment.
Firstly, I noticed that both Olivia and Gerard used the exact phrase: "don't want to be alarmist". 1) Gerard to emergency and police; 2) Olivia stated that her mother said this to her upon waking her up that morning.

Second, it's coincidental IMO that Allison's phone was identified in the neighbour's backyard after Olivia had been out and about that morning. It wasn't ringing earlier when they checked, then later it is located in the neighbour's backyard and it rings. Gerard had not left the house. NBC was out front with vacumn cleaner, etc. Interesting.

 

[Freya1977]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 39s

Asked about the three wider injuries on Gerard's face, Dr Stark says they are 'typical of fingernail scratches' #badenclay




Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m

Speaking about the wide, large, abrasions, Dr Stark says they are "typical of fingernail scratches". #badenclay

 

[Freya1977]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 25s

Dr Stark: if someone is clawing at you, as you pull away you won't necessarily get straight scratch lines #badenclay



Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 26s

Dr Stark says the marks won't be straight, "people will pull away" because it hurts. #badenclay



Ebony Cavallaro ‏@ebonycavallaro 27s

Forensic physician has told court marks on Gerard #badenclay's face are "typical of fingernail scratches" @9NewsBrisbane



Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 38s

Dr Stark says injuries are typical of fingernail scratches. Says it's not 100%, but typical of fingernails. #badenclay @abcnews



Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m

Dr Stark: This is a very typical presentation of fingernail scratches. #badenclay http://bit.ly/badenclayday6



Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 1m

Dr Stark says injuries are typical of fingernail scratches. But it's not 100% @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay



Katrina Blowers ‏@katrinablowers 1m

"These injuries are typical of fingernail scratches" forensic expert tells #badenclay trial. @7NewsBrisbane

 

[Amee]

12:13pm: Dr Stark said the scratches were "typical of fingernail scratches".

"It's not diagnostic, it's not 100 per cent, but in my experience ... this is a very typical presentation of being scratched with fingernails," she said.

12:12pm: The court has been shown a photograph of the scratches on Mr Baden-Clay's face.

"Certainly from the photographs they look as though they are abrasion injuries ... that results from contact with a rough surface," Dr Stark said.

She said there were three clear abrasions on Mr Baden-Clay's face, which appeared to be orange or yellow in colour, as well as smaller "redder" injuries.

"You've got three abrasion injuries; one vertically down the cheek and one running in an elliptical way ... and those injuries are sort of 'orangey' colour and then you've some redder abrasions," she said.

"That's suggesting maybe two sets of injuries caused at different times."

Dr Stark said the "redder" injuries may have occurred more recently than the "yellow" injuries.

"They're not fresh as in being ... in the last couple of hours, but they're hours or days old," she said, referring to the "yellow" injuries.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ay-6-week-2-20140618-3ackc.html#ixzz34x9NtG45

 

[Freya1977]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 35s

Dr Stark says there may have been some bleeding. Not as much as with a wound laceration. #badenclay



Leonie Mellor ‏@leoniemellor 1m

Dr Margaret Stark says scratches on GBC's face are "typical of fingernail scratches". @abcnews #badenclay



Jamie McKinnell ‏@jamie86 1m

Dr Stark says the wider injuries are "typical of fingernail scratches" @NewsTalk4BC #badenclay

 

[KG1]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 28s

Dr Stark says dot marks next to Gerard's mouth look like an abrasion, couldn't be precise about when they were caused #badenclay

They obviously weren't there when he bought and took sausages to BWANA's and girls have not said anything about them being there before they went to bed. So stretching it out - happened between 7.00pm on 19/4 and 8.00am on 20/4. In the appropriate time frame!!

 

[Freya1977]

Marissa Calligeros ‏@marissa_sc 52s

Forensic physician says scratches on Baden-Clay's face were "typical of fingernail scratches" #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

12:13pm: Dr Stark said the scratches were "typical of fingernail scratches".

"It's not diagnostic, it's not 100 per cent, but in my experience ... this is a very typical presentation of being scratched with fingernails," she said.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ay-6-week-2-20140618-3ackc.html#ixzz34x9SDbvR

 

[Freya1977]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 32s

Dr Stark asked how long fingernails would have to be, she says you need nails but can't say anything about length #badenclay



Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 48s

Dr Stark says you would have needed to have nails to make the scratches. Couldn't have had nails bitten down. #badenclay