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The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 30th June - Trial Day 12, Week 3
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10.45am: Baden-Clay told the jury through tears he had not been faithful to his wife in 2006.
“I just wanted sex,” he said, dabbing his face.
“And Allison and I hadn’t had any physical intimacy for years. It’s not an excuse but that’s why.”
He said he had an affair with a woman called Michelle Hammond, who he worked with at Raine and Horne.
Baden-Clay said it lasted a month.
“I just felt really bad about it and it was just a mutual, we both wanted it for the same reasons and it was nothing more,” he said.
“Just the sex.”
Baden-Clay said the real estate business started to build up and he hired new sales staff he could train up in 2006.
He said employees included Phil Broom, John Webb and Toni McHugh.
“It was going terrifically well, we were going from strength to strength. We were growing a market share, we were making money…,” he said.
Baden-Clay said there were two core areas in a real estate business: sales through selling property and rentals, which involved property management.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226971633938
“I just wanted sex,” he said, dabbing his face.
“And Allison and I hadn’t had any physical intimacy for years. It’s not an excuse but that’s why.”
He said he had an affair with a woman called Michelle Hammond, who he worked with at Raine and Horne.
Baden-Clay said it lasted a month.
“I just felt really bad about it and it was just a mutual, we both wanted it for the same reasons and it was nothing more,” he said.
“Just the sex.”
Baden-Clay said the real estate business started to build up and he hired new sales staff he could train up in 2006.
He said employees included Phil Broom, John Webb and Toni McHugh.
“It was going terrifically well, we were going from strength to strength. We were growing a market share, we were making money…,” he said.
Baden-Clay said there were two core areas in a real estate business: sales through selling property and rentals, which involved property management.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226971633938
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When the prosecution get their chance to question him are they on a time limit and do they have a set number of questions they can ask ?
We may be here this time next year at this rate.....
Sorry if that's a silly question
We may be here this time next year at this rate.....
Sorry if that's a silly question
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BBM: Zoloft is not a prn medication ( as required ), you just don't take it "whenever" not like taking paracetamol for a headache!
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He said reinvestment in the business was through staff recruitment and in office technology.
The accused said his wife fell pregnant in 2006.
“As soon as she knew she was pregnant her mood certainly brightened a lot,” he said.
He said they went for a 12-week scan where there was an opportunity to determine the gender but his wife asked not to know.
Baden-Clay said they agreed he would know the child’s sex and it was a girl.
“Having another girl, I felt a confidence I knew how to change their nappies and how to care for them and look after them, so I was in a way, quite relieved but I was worried how Allison would take that news,” he said.
He said his wife was still seeing psychiatrist Dr Tom George and her mood generally was good.
He said in the third trimester she experienced more negative mood swings and they organised to have an elective caesarean section to control the delivery.
Baden-Clay said he spoke to Dr George about the child’s gender.
“Because Allison was so set on wanting to have a boy and I knew it was a girl and I was concerned there may be some emotional backlash for Allison when she had the girl,” he said.
He said his third daughter was born on September 15, 2006.
Baden-Clay said his wife’s initial reaction was shock
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226971633938
The accused said his wife fell pregnant in 2006.
“As soon as she knew she was pregnant her mood certainly brightened a lot,” he said.
He said they went for a 12-week scan where there was an opportunity to determine the gender but his wife asked not to know.
Baden-Clay said they agreed he would know the child’s sex and it was a girl.
“Having another girl, I felt a confidence I knew how to change their nappies and how to care for them and look after them, so I was in a way, quite relieved but I was worried how Allison would take that news,” he said.
He said his wife was still seeing psychiatrist Dr Tom George and her mood generally was good.
He said in the third trimester she experienced more negative mood swings and they organised to have an elective caesarean section to control the delivery.
Baden-Clay said he spoke to Dr George about the child’s gender.
“Because Allison was so set on wanting to have a boy and I knew it was a girl and I was concerned there may be some emotional backlash for Allison when she had the girl,” he said.
He said his third daughter was born on September 15, 2006.
Baden-Clay said his wife’s initial reaction was shock
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226971633938
Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 49s
Gerard says he took responsibility for the management of the business, hiring of staff, etc. #badenclay
Gerard says the business kept growing and becoming more and more successful. He is listing some of their accolades. #badenclay
Gerard says he took responsibility for the management of the business, hiring of staff, etc. #badenclay
Gerard says the business kept growing and becoming more and more successful. He is listing some of their accolades. #badenclay
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David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
In his business, he split responsibilities with Broom and Frost - Gerard #badenclay
David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
It was cumbersome, so they agreed Gerard would look after the business side. He would farm out his clients #badenclay
In his business, he split responsibilities with Broom and Frost - Gerard #badenclay
David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
It was cumbersome, so they agreed Gerard would look after the business side. He would farm out his clients #badenclay
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“Of course I’d had six months of knowing it was a girl so I was delighted and wanted to convey to Allison I was delighted as well because I knew so much of her wanting to have a boy was for me,” he said, again in tears.
He said his wife quickly fell in love with their daughter, bonding with her “just like she had with the other two”.
“I can’t imagine life without (her), so I’m really glad we did have her,” he said.
Baden-Clay said his big vision with the real estate business was to have a network of six or seven offices across the western suburbs, working together as one big team, rather than against each other.
He said he was the principal of the business in 2007.
The accused told the jury he initially hoped to open the business with licensing managers in each office but then decided the best way forward would be to have partners in each.
“At that stage Phil Broom was one of our best performing agents in our office and I felt a good connection with him in a business level,” he said.
Baden-Clay said he discussed Mr Broom buying in and becoming a partner in the business.
He said they made a handshake agreement they would be 50-50 partners in the business.
But the accused said the agreement was never finalised because Mr Broom spoke with Century 21’s top sales person Jocelyn Frost at a state conference on Hamilton Island
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226971633938
He said his wife quickly fell in love with their daughter, bonding with her “just like she had with the other two”.
“I can’t imagine life without (her), so I’m really glad we did have her,” he said.
Baden-Clay said his big vision with the real estate business was to have a network of six or seven offices across the western suburbs, working together as one big team, rather than against each other.
He said he was the principal of the business in 2007.
The accused told the jury he initially hoped to open the business with licensing managers in each office but then decided the best way forward would be to have partners in each.
“At that stage Phil Broom was one of our best performing agents in our office and I felt a good connection with him in a business level,” he said.
Baden-Clay said he discussed Mr Broom buying in and becoming a partner in the business.
He said they made a handshake agreement they would be 50-50 partners in the business.
But the accused said the agreement was never finalised because Mr Broom spoke with Century 21’s top sales person Jocelyn Frost at a state conference on Hamilton Island
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226971633938
How so?
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BBM Whats this got to do with Allisons murder- totally irrelevant
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Baden-Clay said they decided to bring Ms Frost on board as a partner, as well, rather than have her work nearby in competition.
“They both paid $25,000 each to become one-third owners in the business,” he said.
He said the money was paid directly to Peter Cranna, Baden-Clay’s friend, who he borrowed money from to start the business.
Baden-Clay said life at home was “pretty tough”.
“Allison didn’t generally cope very well with that on her own, so I would generally assist her,” he said of caring for the children in the mornings and the evenings.
He said his wife was at a point where she was throwing all of her energies into the children.
“She was certainly getting a bit better, progressively better generally, and able to take the children to ballet … which was great, but that took a lot out of her emotionally and I guess physically as well,” he said.
Baden-Clay said his wife would just collapse on the couch, sleep during the day with their youngest daughter.
He said their physical relationship was “non-existent”.
“Allison just had no interest in any physical intimacy at all and I didn’t want to force her or put her under any pressure, so we just didn’t … It became the norm I suppose, that there was no physical intimacy,” he said.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226971633938
“They both paid $25,000 each to become one-third owners in the business,” he said.
He said the money was paid directly to Peter Cranna, Baden-Clay’s friend, who he borrowed money from to start the business.
Baden-Clay said life at home was “pretty tough”.
“Allison didn’t generally cope very well with that on her own, so I would generally assist her,” he said of caring for the children in the mornings and the evenings.
He said his wife was at a point where she was throwing all of her energies into the children.
“She was certainly getting a bit better, progressively better generally, and able to take the children to ballet … which was great, but that took a lot out of her emotionally and I guess physically as well,” he said.
Baden-Clay said his wife would just collapse on the couch, sleep during the day with their youngest daughter.
He said their physical relationship was “non-existent”.
“Allison just had no interest in any physical intimacy at all and I didn’t want to force her or put her under any pressure, so we just didn’t … It became the norm I suppose, that there was no physical intimacy,” he said.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226971633938
Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 4s
Gerard: We were the number one office in Queensland. Number 10 in Australia. #badenclay
Gerard says he, Phil and Jocelyn at times were getting paid $5500 a week. #badenclay
Gerard: I don't want to cast aspersions. They tended to buy flashy things. #badenclay
Gerard: We were the number one office in Queensland. Number 10 in Australia. #badenclay
Gerard says he, Phil and Jocelyn at times were getting paid $5500 a week. #badenclay
Gerard: I don't want to cast aspersions. They tended to buy flashy things. #badenclay
And that is further evidence of control, just like the baby monitor.
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David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 47s
At the peak of the business each partner got $5500 a week #badenclay
At the peak of the business each partner got $5500 a week #badenclay
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11:00am: Mr Byrne asked: "How did you feel about that?"
Mr Baden-Clay replied: "How do you mean?"
Mr Byrne said: "Were you happy about that, were you unhappy?"
Mr Baden-Clay replied: "I wanted us to be together as a family forever, to be able to give our children the best opportunities we could and for us to be able to really enjoy each other's company again and Allison wanted that too, but there was this wrestle between mentally wanting it and physically having the energy to do it."
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-12-week-4-20140630-3b2vi.html#ixzz3652ZRnWL
Mr Baden-Clay replied: "How do you mean?"
Mr Byrne said: "Were you happy about that, were you unhappy?"
Mr Baden-Clay replied: "I wanted us to be together as a family forever, to be able to give our children the best opportunities we could and for us to be able to really enjoy each other's company again and Allison wanted that too, but there was this wrestle between mentally wanting it and physically having the energy to do it."
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-12-week-4-20140630-3b2vi.html#ixzz3652ZRnWL
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