The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 7th July - Trial Day 15

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · now

Byrne says there was no evidence of fractures. No injuries to larynx, hyoid bone. #badenclay

 

[Freya1977]

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 3m
Defence: "It's alleged there has been a violent, intentional murder. There is no cause of death...no injuries able to be found." #badenclay

 

[Zanzibar]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 8s

Slide being shown now says jury has to believe Crown case is "only rational inference that can be drawn from the circumstances". #badenclay

Oh dear ..... I thought death by PowerPoint was the reserve of conference speakers.

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 24s

Byrne says no evidence of crushing, fractures. That's the uncontradicted evidence from the pathologist. #badenclay

Byrne says there was something on the ribs on the left hand side that was a "possible bruise". #badenclay

 

[Freya1977]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 48s
Larynx, voice box, was intact. Hyoid bone in neck was not fractured or damaged - defence #badenclay

And, it's certainly not the case that these are ALWAYS damaged even with manual strangulation

 

[alioop]

I am waiting for the suicide theory to be mentioned.

 

[Milisi]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 53s
She was fully clothed, with everything in place - defence #badenclay

Yes, but also with a glove tip??!!

 

[Amee]

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 40s

How then did she die? There was no evidence of breaks to Allison's ribs, collarbone, or spine #badenclay

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 33s

There were no signs of a struggle in the house #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 7s

Byrne says Dr Milne had seen thousands of CT scans and could see no defects. He called in a radiologist who could see nothing. #badenclay

 

[Freya1977]

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 54s
Defence is discussing the lack of injuries found on Allison's body. No damage to bones, hyoid bone, voice box. No haemorrhages. #badenclay

 

[Total]

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 44s

Her skeleton - her bone structure - was intact #badenclay

Wonder if Byrne will discuss the scratches, the leaves in her hair, the emails and phone calls to TM. Circumstantial evidence is a rope with many parts. The parts are there and the PT will bring it out loud and clear!

 

[Freya1977]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Specialist radiologist could see no defect - defence #badenclay

So, she clearly didn't jump off a bridge, and we know she didn't overdose.....soooooooo

 

[Amee]

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 42s

On the other hand, Allison had been diagnosed with depression and had a history of panic attacks #badenclay

 

[JK673]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 48s
Larynx, voice box, was intact. Hyoid bone in neck was not fractured or damaged - defence #badenclay

And, it's certainly not the case that these are ALWAYS damaged even with manual strangulation

BUT Smothering would easily succeed without damaging the hyoid bone, larynx, voice box.....

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 22s

Byrne says Allison was 43, history of asthma, long term diagnosis of depression. #badenclay

Byrne says Allison had alcohol in her system, at least half, possibly all due to decomposition. #badenclay

Byrne says neither the pathologist, nor associated experts could come up with a cause of death. #badenclay

 

[toe]

Not if they are smothered.

The jumper being pulled up over Allison's head means nothing, that may have been as a result of being dragged and her clothing being left as is.

 

[Freya1977]

Sky News Australia ‏@SkyNewsAust 1m
Defence: 'Not only was there no determination of cause of death, there was no determination of definite injuries' #badenclay (@liztilley84)

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Pathologist noted Allison's medical history of moderate to severe depressive disorder,transient suicidal thoughts - defence #badenclay

 

[Amee]

here we go....


Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 27s

There were traces of both alcohol and anti-depressants in Allison's system #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 17s

Byrne says pathologist looked at causes that "could not be excluded". Alcohol, medication was one, although unlikely. #badenclay

Byrne says drowning, fall, could not be excluded, although unlikely. #badenclay

 

[Freya1977]

Yep! Exactly. Just saying that not all cases of strangulation even break the hyoid bone and leave damage to other structures.