The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 7th July - Trial Day 15

[Timmy]

This is the first I have heard of transient suicidal thoughts! Did he make that up?

The only thing I've seen was when I was reading the day 1-14 summary that someone kindly posted... On p14 on day 2 the defence questions Dr Milne about Allison's medical records and says they show that she was 'prone to suicidal thoughts' in 2003 I think.... I don't remember hearing this before.

 

[Freya1977]

Well, I'm glad prosecution gets the final say! I trust they will clear up all these half-truths that DT is spinning.

 

[JK673]

'That woman'!!?? RIP Allison June Dickie

By using "that woman" depersonalises her which makes the jury a little less susceptible to feeling sorry for her => Pretty sure the Prosecution will pick up on this and run with her name.....

 

[BJsleuth]

In some murder cases there isn't even a body.

...and sometimes just bones with no indication what caused the death.

 

[Pastafarian]

As in the Keli Lane case - no body, no cause of death

 

[samanthaj]

10:46am: Mrs Baden-Clay's parents, Priscilla and Geoff Dickie, are seated in the front row of the public gallery.

The jury has taken a short morning tea break from the court room.


Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-15-week-5-20140707-3bhb6.html#ixzz36jubB2XG

 

[tarjessi]

And we're off...so far the defences summing up seems pretty weak.

 

[Freya1977]

But wasn't it a sharp edge?

Yes it was, implying that it was in fact pretty new. Chips smooth out over time.

 

[alioop]

Alioop - can the prosecution come back to refute this within there own Summing up remarks???

Absolutely.

 

[marlywings]

Coffee....

Tea.....

Hot chocolate.....

 

[toe]

And we're off...so far the defences summing up seems pretty weak.

It surely does, I have a feeling Gerry may have written his own defence LOL.

 

[samanthaj]

10:52am: Mr Baden-Clay is seated in the dock wearing the same dark suit and glasses he has worn for the duration of the trial.

He is sitting upright in his chair with his hands folded in his lap.

On previous occasions Mr Baden-Clay has been hunched over a pad of paper furiously scribbling notes in the dock.


Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-15-week-5-20140707-3bhb6.html#ixzz36jvLpECX

 

[Fuskier]

By using "that woman" depersonalises her which makes the jury a little less susceptible to feeling sorry for her => Pretty sure the Prosecution will pick up on this and run with her name.....

Excellent pick up JK673. Exactly.

 

[Amee]

It first emerged in 2001 after the birth of her first child, Dr Milne said, and she was diagnosed by a psychiatrist in 2003. Allison also had an associated panic disorder.

At one point, she was prone to suicidal thoughts, Dr Milne said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...eath-court-hears/story-e6frg6nf-1226950521231


However, Allison’s psychiatrist, psychologist, GP and counsellors told the court they did not believe she was suicidal.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226979525605

 

[Freya1977]

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 1m
Defence: Ignore the hype, clear Gerard #badenclay http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...d-him-not-guilty/story-e6frg6nf-1226980177238 …

 

[JK673]

And we're off...so far the defences summing up seems pretty weak.

It is odd.....my gut is feeling odd about the defence sum up but I am not going to commit what I am thinking to the internet......

some of you may get my drift.... :sonar:

:maddening: :jawdrop:

:deadhorse:

opcorn:

 

[Venus13]

He hit his kids didn't he ? No child is suddenly quiet when a parent puts a hand up unless they have good reason to fear what that hand means

My thoughts exactly Maigret hope the Prosecution bring it up!

 

[JCB]

And we're off...so far the defences summing up seems pretty weak.

The final address must be judged as a whole, not in part. We are probably less than one quarter of the way through.

It's interesting that people are jumping up and down in rage over the defence bring up evidence given by prosecution witnesses. Yes some theories may have been debunked or at least mitigated since but Byrne QC will address this evidence during the course of his address to the jury.

 

[Trooper]

Mr Byrne has Australia's hardest job today... not one to envy at all.. rehabilitating Gerard is a lifetime job and Mr Byrne doesn't have that sort of time..

 

[Freya1977]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 59s
Allegation is Allison was violently killed at the house - defence #badenclay
Police were in effect invited into the house early on April 20 when he was concerned for his wife - defence #badenclay