The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 8th July - Trial Day 16

[Thinking]

Katrina Blowers ‏@katrinablowers 1m
Gerard #badenclay is taking notes in the dock as the prosecution delivers closing argument. @7NewsBrisbane

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
They seemed like the perfect couple. It was a facade - Fuller #badenclay

A bit late for notes now GBC? Unless he is intending to pass another to the jury?

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Allison told counsellor she was a wife and a mother. Gerard cited his community involvement. Shows the difference - Fuller #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 49s
Pathologist can't say how she died. You can't be expected to decide how - Fuller #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 45s
You just need to decide he killed his wife and did it intentionally - Fuller #badenclay

 

[Forensics]

10:34am: Mr Fuller said Mr Baden-Clay reacted to the pressures in his life on the night of April 19, 2012.
"What's building on this man here? What's changing in his life in the period we're talking about here?" he asked.
Mr Fuller said Mr Baden-Clay's actions were a "reaction to a particular set of circumstances that accumulated over time, a set of circumstances that were in fact his own making".


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[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 36s

Fuller says the jury needs to decide whether Gerard killed his wife, if there was intent. #badenclay

Fuller says nobody saw the killing, nobody has confessed. Means their case is circumstantial. #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 32s

Fuller says "circumstantial case" is a much maligned term. But can be every bit as compelling. #badenclay

 

[Forensics]

10:35am: Mr Fuller is standing away from the bar table and is pacing back and forth as he directly addresses the jury.



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[alioop]

It's a really good point Todd made about reasonable doubt and that we make assessments every day based on it. It's got me thinking as the judge doesn't tell the jury what it means. For eg we don't jaywalk unless we think beyond reasonable doubt that we won't get hit by a car. It's a higher than just deciding something is more probable than not.
In some jurisdictions the jury are told they have to be sure of guilt before they can convict. Just like we feel sure it's safe to cross the road before we attempt it.

Thanks Todd. You have helped me.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
People deride 'circumstantial' cases but they can be just as powerful or more so - Fuller #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 53s
It's about the accumulation of evidence - Fuller #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 19s

Fuller says the jury must look at the evidence as a whole and make a decision from that. #badenclay

 

[Smegal]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 50s

He told the police he had an affair. Would only have done that if he thought she was returning - defence #badenclay

*scratches head* what?

 

[FirstTimer]

Katrina Blowers ‏@katrinablowers 1m
Gerard #badenclay is taking notes in the dock as the prosecution delivers closing argument. @7NewsBrisbane

Bit late for notes now lad, it's closing arguments. Idiot.

 

[Forensics]

10:37am: Mr Fuller has turned his attention to the nature of the circumstantial case against Mr Baden-Clay.
"It's like a television picture," he said.
If you stand close to a television screen, you see a series of small dots, Mr Fuller said.
"Step back and you see the full picture," he said.


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[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 30s

Fuller says there is a superficial attraction in looking at each piece of evidence. #badenclay

Fuller says it is the context of everything each witness says they must look at. #badenclay

 

[BrissyLass]

Hasn't anyone told him that his show is over? He has had is chance, he cannot say another word.

maybe he is working on his sentencing submissions ....

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 56s
It's all about the context of the evidence - Fuller #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 43s
Yesterday the defence spoke about Allison being subdued at the hairdresser - Fuller #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 11s

Fuller says yesterday afternoon defence spoke about Allison being stressed and subdued at the hairdresser. #badenclay

Fuller says defence spoke of a psychiatrist who had never met Allison. #badenclay

 

[BatWoman]

I thought it was about the vibe :dunno:

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 56s
It's all about the context of the evidence - Fuller #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 43s
Yesterday the defence spoke about Allison being subdued at the hairdresser - Fuller #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Defence presented a psychologist as a witness who had never seen Allison - Fuller #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 43s

Fuller says defence claimed she was so depressed she'd gone walking into the night never to be seen again. #badenclay

Fuller says in context, Allison was a general manager going to a major conference. #badenclay

 

[toe]

maybe he is working on his sentencing submissions ....

Maybe he thinks he's still in control.