The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 8th July - Trial Day 16

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
The day after finding out about the birth of her nephew, Allison was excited about the future - Crown

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
She has survived her husband's affair - Crown

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
All that time, going to psychiatrist and psychologist, he was having an affair - Fuller

 

[Amee]

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 1m

Prosecutor Fuller: "(Allison) has survived, and I use that word intentionally, the disclosure of her husband's affair" #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 24s

Fuller says Dr Bourke doesn't refer to Allison's depression. He just says she is upset about problems in her marriage. #badenclay

Fuller says Allison was "over the moon that Gerard had finally decided to engage" when they went to see the counsellor. #badenclay

Fuller says going to the counsellor showed the efforts she was making again to save their marriage. #badenclay

 

[JK673]

I really hate to introduce stuff at this late stage that members have no doubt discussed previously, but were Allison’s house keys on the Captiva key fob?

If she went walking without house keys, how did she propose to get back into the house? Did she have to knock? Or was the door left unlocked when others were home?

Were the defendant or the daughters questioned about Allison’s usual practice in gaining entry to the house upon returning from walking?

I exercise all the time. I f I know I was going for an early morning cycle/walk/jog - I leave my keys at home, less to carry, because I know hubby will be there.

But we all know she never went for a walk.

Good to be back BTW - All this talk of Spunky Fuller........hahaha......at least my hairdresser is a spunky guy too, so I don't feel I have lost out too much.......

 

[Amee]

12:38pm: Mr Fuller said the jury could "safely put to bed" the defence theory that Mrs Baden-Clay was adversely affected by her antidepressant medication Zoloft.

The defence has suggested Mrs Baden-Clay was suffering Serotonin Syndrome prompted by her medication which caused her to become disoriented and possibly hallucinate.

Mr Fuller said Mrs Baden-Clay had managed her depression well and overcome the panic attacks she experienced during her second pregnancy in 2003.

"The panic attacks were linked with her ... second pregnancy. Yet that somehow gets turned into 2012 'she must have overdosed'," Mr Fuller said.

"If you exclude drowning, falling, jumping, drug toxicity, what are you left with?"

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-16-week-5-20140708-3bjkw.html#ixzz36qC7dfgl

 

[Curiousasacat]

Roundabouts

Koppers logs

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 26s

Fuller says Allison was excited about going to the conference. She'd made plans about that. #badenclay

Fuller: She's not depressed. She's not suicidal. He says she's busy making plans. #badenclay

 

[Amee]

Leonie Mellor ‏@leoniemellor 43s

Fuller: "She's not depressed, she's not suicidal, she's not going to wander off ... there is no trigger. #badenclay @abcnews

 

[PrimeSuspect]

220 viewing :seeya:

 

[Amee]

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 34s

Fuller - Allison was unlawfully killed and her body dumped. Only killer knows how she was killed, jury need not decide #badenclay

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 43s

But prosecutor Fuller says whatever the method of killing it was "efficient and effective" #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 25s

Fuller says Allison was not affected by drugs, didn't drown, didn't fall. He says she did not die from natural causes. #badenclay

Fuller says she was dumped at Kholo Creek after she was dead. This means someone has killed her. #badenclay

Fuller says was she strangled or smothered? She wasn't shot or stabbed. #badenclay

Fuller says her killing was efficient and effective. #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 2m
She wasn't affected by the drug, she didn't drown, she didn't fall - Fuller

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
She was dumped at the creek, somebody killed her, tried to distance themselves - Fuller

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
It was effective and efficient. So who was it? Fuller

 

[JK673]

220 viewing :seeya:

I know - my page became unresponsive a couple of times.....

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 24s

Fuller says Dr Bourke doesn't refer to Allison's depression. He just says she is upset about problems in her marriage. #badenclay

Fuller says Allison was "over the moon that Gerard had finally decided to engage" when they went to see the counsellor. #badenclay

Fuller says going to the counsellor showed the efforts she was making again to save their marriage. #badenclay

I hurt for her...I remember right before deciding to divorce my ex we had a session at a psychologist (he wasn't cheating but I'm sure that would've hurt worse) and I felt so full of hope. I wish we hadn't even tried because having that little bit of hope made it hurt all the more.

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 25s

Fuller says Allison was not affected by drugs, didn't drown, didn't fall. He says she did not die from natural causes. #badenclay

Fuller says she was dumped at Kholo Creek after she was dead. This means someone has killed her. #badenclay

Fuller says was she strangled or smothered? She wasn't shot or stabbed. #badenclay

Fuller says her killing was efficient and effective. #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 11s

Fuller says we turn now to who did it. #badenclay

Fuller says Gerard was doing business as usual that night. He sent out group work texts. #badenclay

Fuller says Gerard claims he got up after 6am and found she was missing. #badenclay

including the children, in the house that night. #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 31s

Fuller is showing a photograph of the house, showing the girls' bedrooms. #badenclay

Fuller says both girls' bedrooms at the front of the house had controls for an airconditioner. #badenclay

 

[Amee]

12:43pm: "That means she wasn't affected by the drugs, she didn't drown, she didn't fall," Mr Fuller said.

"You'll find she was dumped at the creek when she was already dead."

Mr Fuller said the jury did not have to determine the "mechanism" of Mrs Baden-Clay's death.

"Only the person who killed her would know that," he said.

"But it was efficient and effective.

"Effective because it achieved the desired result. Efficient because it didn't leave any evidence."

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-16-week-5-20140708-3bjkw.html#ixzz36qDTF7L9

 

[Tishy]

Roundabouts

Koppers' Logs



ETA snap, Curious...lol

 

[drsleuth]

Fuller is now showing a photograph of Allison and Gerard's bedroom. #badenclay


Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 8s

Fuller says Gerard claimed noise travelled quickly through the house. But the bedside table has a baby monitor on it. #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 13s

Fuller says a woman gave evidence of her daughter screaming down the street. Those screams weren't heard in the Baden-Clay house.

Fuller says evidence from the youngest girl was that mum came back in to check on her. How do you know? She promised. #badenclay

 

[Her Honour]

Todd Fuller QC with members of Webseuths.



And after a hard day's work: