The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 9th July - Trial Day 17
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David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 44s
These questions were asked on April 19, before Allison went missing - Fuller #badenclay
Allison was trying to get the parameters of the relationship with Toni, and contrast with their own life together - Fuller #badenclay
In the journal she prepared questions about the movies he went to with Toni - Fuller #badenclay
Were the seats down in Snowy, the Prado - Fuller #badenclay
Do you think that happens on the 18th and they come home to their parents and everything is fine - Fuller #badenclay
These questions were asked on April 19, before Allison went missing - Fuller #badenclay
Allison was trying to get the parameters of the relationship with Toni, and contrast with their own life together - Fuller #badenclay
In the journal she prepared questions about the movies he went to with Toni - Fuller #badenclay
Were the seats down in Snowy, the Prado - Fuller #badenclay
Do you think that happens on the 18th and they come home to their parents and everything is fine - Fuller #badenclay
Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 28s
Fuller says if the 18th is correct, why did they leave the house to ask and answer the questions. Children already in bed. #badenclay
Servers working better now!! Fingers crossed.
Spoke too soon......
Fuller says if the 18th is correct, why did they leave the house to ask and answer the questions. Children already in bed. #badenclay
Servers working better now!! Fingers crossed.
Spoke too soon......
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10:45am: Mr Fuller said Mr Baden-Clay did not call his wife's family and friends until 8am.
He called his parents and his close friends first.
10:42am: Mr Fuller has examined the first text message Mr Baden-Clay sent his wife on the morning he reported his wife missing.
The text message sent at 6.41am read: “Al, getting concerned. Where are you? The app doesn’t say either? H and S now up. I’m dressed and about to make lunches. Please just text me back or call! Love, G.”
Mr Baden-Clay told police it was not unusual for his wife to take early morning walks.
Mr Fuller noted Mr Baden-Clay did not ask his wife what she would be home from her walk in the text message.
And he noted Mr Baden-Clay made reference to the "Find My Phone" application the couple had installed on their mobile phones.
"Why is that in the text message?" Mr Fuller asked.
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-17-week-5-20140709-3bluf.html#ixzz36vbRtfrG
He called his parents and his close friends first.
10:42am: Mr Fuller has examined the first text message Mr Baden-Clay sent his wife on the morning he reported his wife missing.
The text message sent at 6.41am read: “Al, getting concerned. Where are you? The app doesn’t say either? H and S now up. I’m dressed and about to make lunches. Please just text me back or call! Love, G.”
Mr Baden-Clay told police it was not unusual for his wife to take early morning walks.
Mr Fuller noted Mr Baden-Clay did not ask his wife what she would be home from her walk in the text message.
And he noted Mr Baden-Clay made reference to the "Find My Phone" application the couple had installed on their mobile phones.
"Why is that in the text message?" Mr Fuller asked.
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-17-week-5-20140709-3bluf.html#ixzz36vbRtfrG
Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 45s
As background, Gerard told the court he and Allison drove to Mt Coot-tha on April 18 for 15 min session, his parents babysat. #badenclay
Fuller is reading from Allison's list. "I couldn't go back to her even if I wanted to". #badenclay
As background, Gerard told the court he and Allison drove to Mt Coot-tha on April 18 for 15 min session, his parents babysat. #badenclay
Fuller is reading from Allison's list. "I couldn't go back to her even if I wanted to". #badenclay
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Perhaps Allison had put a reminder in her phone to meet Kate and the reminder has gone off and Gerard has realised his plans have to change
Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 54s
Fuller says that's not a question. That's a statement from Gerard. #badenclay
Fuller says Gerard has made that statement. Contrast that with the emails. #badenclay
Fuller: If he made that statement to her, it was simply a lie. #badenclay
Fuller says that's not a question. That's a statement from Gerard. #badenclay
Fuller says Gerard has made that statement. Contrast that with the emails. #badenclay
Fuller: If he made that statement to her, it was simply a lie. #badenclay
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10:23am: Mr Fuller has turned his attention to the phone conversation between Mr Baden-Clay and Ms McHugh on the evening of April 19, 2012.
The pair had a seven minute conversation from 5.03pm and then a 10 minute conversation at 5.15pm.
"Between 5.03pm and about 5.40pm he is taking to Toni McHugh with a couple of interruptions, 30 odd minutes," Mr Fuller said.
"What sort of things do they talk about? Their days, what they are doing, she knows he's at the supermarket buying sausages.
"But we know that that's inflamed once he says, 'oh there's something I need to tell you'."
The court has previously heard Ms McHugh and Mrs Baden-Clay were due to come face-to-face for the first time at a real estate conference the following day.
"He tells you he's not worried about these two women coming together ... but he continues in this conversation to raise it," Mr Fuller said.
"And even in the words that he uses, 'two of my employees are going'.
"He doesn't even have the courage to say straight up that Allison is going to be there tomorrow when he knows that she is going to the conference."
The court has previously heard Ms McHugh flew into a rage and demanded Mr Baden-Clay tell his wife of the impending run-in.
"You might think that's a significant pressure on him," Mr Fuller said.
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-17-week-5-20140709-3bluf.html#ixzz36vboSwyn
The pair had a seven minute conversation from 5.03pm and then a 10 minute conversation at 5.15pm.
"Between 5.03pm and about 5.40pm he is taking to Toni McHugh with a couple of interruptions, 30 odd minutes," Mr Fuller said.
"What sort of things do they talk about? Their days, what they are doing, she knows he's at the supermarket buying sausages.
"But we know that that's inflamed once he says, 'oh there's something I need to tell you'."
The court has previously heard Ms McHugh and Mrs Baden-Clay were due to come face-to-face for the first time at a real estate conference the following day.
"He tells you he's not worried about these two women coming together ... but he continues in this conversation to raise it," Mr Fuller said.
"And even in the words that he uses, 'two of my employees are going'.
"He doesn't even have the courage to say straight up that Allison is going to be there tomorrow when he knows that she is going to the conference."
The court has previously heard Ms McHugh flew into a rage and demanded Mr Baden-Clay tell his wife of the impending run-in.
"You might think that's a significant pressure on him," Mr Fuller said.
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-17-week-5-20140709-3bluf.html#ixzz36vboSwyn
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True. I don't always need to be centre of attention :floorlaugh:
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Police examine Allison Baden-Clay's car. Photo: Court Exhibit
10:31am: Mr Fuller said Mr Baden-Clay faced having his double life exposed at the run-in between his wife and his love.
"You see he had tried to live without Toni McHugh and he couldn't do it," Mr Fuller said.
"When an ultimatum came a second time which choice would he make?"
Mr Fuller said Mr Baden-Clay a choice on April 19. He said Mr Baden-Clay was "either going to be a coward or a fool", or "the man who makes the decisions in is marriage" and tell his wife of the looming meeting.
"You may think the personal risks to him both professionally and in his own family life were huge," Mr Fuller said.
He said Mr Baden-Clay's marriage and circle of friends was at jeopardy, as well as his business.
"You add that to the scratches on his face, the leaves in her hair, the blood in her car," Mr Fuller said.
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-17-week-5-20140709-3bluf.html#ixzz36vc2PkYf
10:31am: Mr Fuller said Mr Baden-Clay faced having his double life exposed at the run-in between his wife and his love.
"You see he had tried to live without Toni McHugh and he couldn't do it," Mr Fuller said.
"When an ultimatum came a second time which choice would he make?"
Mr Fuller said Mr Baden-Clay a choice on April 19. He said Mr Baden-Clay was "either going to be a coward or a fool", or "the man who makes the decisions in is marriage" and tell his wife of the looming meeting.
"You may think the personal risks to him both professionally and in his own family life were huge," Mr Fuller said.
He said Mr Baden-Clay's marriage and circle of friends was at jeopardy, as well as his business.
"You add that to the scratches on his face, the leaves in her hair, the blood in her car," Mr Fuller said.
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-17-week-5-20140709-3bluf.html#ixzz36vc2PkYf
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He lied..again...he didn't use the app.
Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 43s
Fuller says, coincidentally, a picture of Toni's place was on the next page of Allison's journal. #badenclay
Fuller says it took Gerard hours to call Allison's parents. A major search was already underway. #badenclay
Fuller says, coincidentally, a picture of Toni's place was on the next page of Allison's journal. #badenclay
Fuller says it took Gerard hours to call Allison's parents. A major search was already underway. #badenclay
^^^ This, this, and then some, this.
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10:14am: Mr Baden-Clay is seated in the dock wearing a dark suit, yellow tie and glasses.
His sister Olivia Walton and brother Adam Baden-Clay are seated directly behind him in the public gallery.
Mrs Baden-Clay's parents, Priscilla and Geoff Dickie, are seated on the opposite side of the courtroom with Detective Superintendent Mark Ainsworth who oversaw the police investigation.
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-17-week-5-20140709-3bluf.html#ixzz36vcFDQSO
His sister Olivia Walton and brother Adam Baden-Clay are seated directly behind him in the public gallery.
Mrs Baden-Clay's parents, Priscilla and Geoff Dickie, are seated on the opposite side of the courtroom with Detective Superintendent Mark Ainsworth who oversaw the police investigation.
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-17-week-5-20140709-3bluf.html#ixzz36vcFDQSO
Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 27s
Fuller says just after 9am, he calls his three friends, the ones who had lent him money. At 9.58am he calls Kerry-Anne Walker. #badenclay
Fuller says when he speaks to Toni, she asks "did you argue". She knows what the conflict was likely to be. #badenclay
Fuller says Gerard tells Toni to lay low. #badenclay
Fuller says just after 9am, he calls his three friends, the ones who had lent him money. At 9.58am he calls Kerry-Anne Walker. #badenclay
Fuller says when he speaks to Toni, she asks "did you argue". She knows what the conflict was likely to be. #badenclay
Fuller says Gerard tells Toni to lay low. #badenclay
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