The Cuts

Mary456 said:
Goody doesn't believe me, but those bruises on her left arm were manufactured by CWB (just as he manufactured the nonexistent bootprint). There is no testimony to support the purple bruises on her left arm that we see in MTJD or on Darlie's website. Her right arm? Yes, those bruises were purple, consistent with blunt trauma inflicted within 24 hours (probably) and 48 hours at the latest. That means the bruises weren't the result of blunt trauma on 6/6/96.

But her left arm, ahhh, don't be fooled. Testimony supported that the slight yellow/green bruising on her left wrist was the result of the IV, nothing more and nothing less.
It is not so much that Goody doesn't believe you. She just hasn't taken the time to really study the matter since she got her new eyes. Plus my book has been lost for about a year now. grrrrrr.....

I think you have an interesting point though that more than one thing might have been going on regarding the bruising.
 
Goody said:
No offense but I think dressing poor and shabby should not mean anything at all except that a person is poor. I know just as many rich low lifes as I do poor ones, and few of them live in trailers. Beisdes when you have double-d's or triple, almost anything you put on is going to be low cut unless it is a turtle neck. I don't like labels too much.
No offense taken, but I think it's time we move on from this slang debate. Shall we?:rolleyes:
 
beesy said:
Oh I know that fool messed with alot of the pix. I think he manipulated the autopsy photos also. :loser:

ok, so you agree with my original thoughts. That the horrible bruises on her right arm were self-inflected or Darin-inflected blunt trauma, after getting out of the hospital.
And I was thinking that the other bruises were caused by IV's and needles. :woohoo:


It's nice to meet someone who despises CWB as much as I do, lol! That dirty rat touched up a lot of those photos to suit his own agenda.


Yep, and if you watch tricky Chris closely in Part IV of the Leeza show, he points to his left arm and says, "The bruises go from here (wrist) all the way up" as he sweeps his hand up to the elbow. Bullpoopy. In that same show, Darin says the bruises on Darlie's right arm went all the way up into her breast area. Double bullpoopy. They're always exaggerating her injuries, hoping no one will notice.
 
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QUOTE=Mary456]It's nice to meet someone who despises CWB as much as I do, lol! That dirty rat touched up a lot of those photos to suit his own agenda.
Ok, I watched I think it was Part I of the Leeza show and Leeza said something to Darin about the wounds on Devon. She said that one of Devon's wounds was so hard that it went thru his body and into the carpet. Darin nodded and agreed with this. Crazy Chris makes a big point in his book on page 298 that there is not an exit wound on Devon's back. The pic he shows does not have one, so why did Darin agree with Leeza that the knife went all the way thru his body? Did it or not? This is one of the pix I suspect CC to have tampered with.
 
Cause Darin didn't know what he was talking about.

I can't help feeling that if you read the website of the family that none of them know this case as well as some people who are not even connected to it. It's a pity really.
 
beesy said:
[ Ok, I watched I think it was Part I of the Leeza show and Leeza said something to Darin about the wounds on Devon. She said that one of Devon's wounds was so hard that it went thru his body and into the carpet. Darin nodded and agreed with this.

I noticed that, too, and the only thing I can figure is that it's another one of Darin's exaggerations. What better way to inflame the public against the "murderous intruder" than to make Devon's wounds even worse than they actually were?

beesy said:
[ Crazy Chris makes a big point in his book on page 298 that there is not an exit wound on Devon's back. The pic he shows does not have one, so why did Darin agree with Leeza that the knife went all the way thru his body? Did it or not? This is one of the pix I suspect CC to have tampered with.

Actually, I think that's one of the very few pix he didn't tamper with!The knife didn't exit Devon's back and go into the carpet. It was just a rumor which CC gleefully attributed to the police, although there was no testimony to support his claim. That semi-literate, editor-challenged fruitcake will stop at nothing to bash LE.
 
Actually, I think that's one of the very few pix he didn't tamper with!The knife didn't exit Devon's back and go into the carpet. It was just a rumor which CC gleefully attributed to the police, although there was no testimony to support his claim. That semi-literate, editor-challenged fruitcake will stop at nothing to bash LE
I re-read the autopsy report on Devon and saw that there aren't any exit wounds listed. What do you make of the cut on his buttocks? Was he lifting his legs to fight with the killer? The juror on the Leeza show said they thought he was and that he caused some of the bruises on her arms. Seems like we, thru all of our brainstorming, have decided those arm bruises didn't come from that night. But that doesn't answer the question about the cut.
 
Mary456 said:
Actually, I think that's one of the very few pix he didn't tamper with!The knife didn't exit Devon's back and go into the carpet. It was just a rumor which CC gleefully attributed to the police, although there was no testimony to support his claim. That semi-literate, editor-challenged fruitcake will stop at nothing to bash LE.
Which pix do you think he messed with? I thought it was the autopsy pix based on what'd I'd heard about the penetrating wound, which is wrong. I was thinking he didn't want people to remember that wound because a stab that violent usually indicates passion, not some random murder.
 
beesy said:
Hi, newbie here,
I too believe Darlie did it, but what bothers me is how she had the nerve to cut her throat. How did she know she wouldn't hit the caratoid artery? She doesnt strike me as having much medical knowledge. The arm, no problem, but the throat? Pictures show a small 'hesitation' cut above the deeper one on her arm. Maybe she was trying to kill herself too, then when she didnt hit the artery decided that was a bad idea? :chicken: Too ouchy! Remember I am a newbie, so don't fuss if this has been discussed a million times already:o
beesy
Actually, it is the nature of her injuries that makes her look so guilty to me. According to her, some nut entered her home through a window after cutting a screen with a knife found in the kitchen butcher block, then picked up another knife and violently plunged the knife into the bodies of her boys, repeatedly, and then when she woke up and got up, he slashed her throat but the depth of the slash is constant -- not far deeper at the beginning or the end. Also, she sustained no injuries that could not have been done by her.

As hard as it is for me to find her motive in this, it is harder to find one for an intruder. He didn't disturb the dust on the window sill. He didn't steal anything but a sock. If her story had been that he grabbed her and held the knife to her throat, it would have been more believable, frankly. She was careful not to cut too deep, even though it doesn't take a lot to cut a vital artery in one's neck. They had tiny insurance policies on the kids, so it was not a hired killer. By her story, how could she continue to sleep in that house a single night after that? A madman cut a screen, plunged a kitchen knife deep into her kids, took one non-lethal slash at her, then scratched her forearm with the knife... and left, taking nothing but a sock. The Rowlett neighborhood she lived in has never seen this mad man again... so where did he go? That story is just absurd. I just wonder why she did it.

So what you end up with is no motive for either story and a crime scene that just does not match her story. I am left to come to one conclusion. She is just evil.
 
beesy said:
what do you consider the difference between white trash and blue collar? Where I live, you don't have to live in a pig pen to be considered white trash. It's more the attitude and the way they dress:twocents:
This is the wrong comparison. White collar and blue collar indicate the type of work one does with white collar being people who wear a tie to work and blue collar refers to people who don't. White trash refers to a mind set, often called trailer trash as well as white trash and those people often don't work at all!

They bought a home they could not afford in an upper middle class neighborhood, but Darlie is trailer trash, through and through. They did not belong there. Look at the way she decorated that house. It could not have been more tacky. Even the fountain in the yard was too big for the yard it is in. Then look at her. Big bleached hair, too much makeup, too much jewelry, oversized boob job. There are lots of women who look like that but they don't murder their kids. Lots of women want to be something they are not and lots of them have bad taste. But that does not make them evil.

The lovely couple met at a Sizzler steak house. Do you know what that is? If you do, I don't need to explain. Discount hot meat, cafeteria style. Darin said it was love at first sight. What does that tell you? It tells you his emotions are based on appearance and he is attracted to tacky women. I guess a silly string party at the grave is not so inappropriate to people like them. But Darin was in the computer business, usually associated with white collar. So they were crossing over the white collar/blue collar lines and were anxious to move on up from the trailer park. Nothing wrong with that, but sometimes it just shows.

Blue collar, white collar, trailer trash or class -- none of it explains the evil in Darlie. Or the delusion or collusion of her husband.
 
Cowgirl said:
This is the wrong comparison. White collar and blue collar indicate the type of work one does with white collar being people who wear a tie to work and blue collar refers to people who don't. White trash refers to a mind set, often called trailer trash as well as white trash and those people often don't work at all!

They bought a home they could not afford in an upper middle class neighborhood, but Darlie is trailer trash, through and through. They did not belong there. Look at the way she decorated that house. It could not have been more tacky. Even the fountain in the yard was too big for the yard it is in. Then look at her. Big bleached hair, too much makeup, too much jewelry, oversized boob job. There are lots of women who look like that but they don't murder their kids. Lots of women want to be something they are not and lots of them have bad taste. But that does not make them evil.

The lovely couple met at a Sizzler steak house. Do you know what that is? If you do, I don't need to explain. Discount hot meat, cafeteria style. Darin said it was love at first sight. What does that tell you? It tells you his emotions are based on appearance and he is attracted to tacky women. I guess a silly string party at the grave is not so inappropriate to people like them. But Darin was in the computer business, usually associated with white collar. So they were crossing over the white collar/blue collar lines and were anxious to move on up from the trailer park. Nothing wrong with that, but sometimes it just shows.

Blue collar, white collar, trailer trash or class -- none of it explains the evil in Darlie. Or the delusion or collusion of her husband.
I never compared blue collar to white trash, Goody was debating the slang with me. I know white collar is considered "office worker" and blue collar the "worker bees" and no Goody, that is not a put-down. My husband is blue collar so calm down. I also mentioned her tacky hair, and while I did not mention her tacky house, I certainly thought it, and everything else you said. I dropped it when I realized Goody was getting all worked up. Yes, I know what Sizzler is. I think I've actually eaten at 1 before. :blushing:

My original white trash post
Hey I only call it like I see it. I'm not from TX. I don't think their look would fly here. They'd be laughed at, as wanna-be's, new money. Maybe around Dallas TX thats considered classy. Her Aunt wore stirrup pants to court! You can take the girl out of redneckville, but you can't take the redneck out of the girl
In fact one of the prosecutors called her family white trash. So no, I dont find it harsh. They might as well have had signs on their heads "WHITE TRASH ALERT
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beesy said:
I never compared blue collar to white trash, Goody was debating the slang with me. I know white collar is considered "office worker" and blue collar the "worker bees" and no Goody, that is not a put-down. My husband is blue collar so calm down. I also mentioned her tacky hair, and while I did not mention her tacky house, I certainly thought it, and everything else you said. I dropped it when I realized Goody was getting all worked up. Yes, I know what Sizzler is. I think I've actually eaten at 1 before. :blushing:

My original white trash post
Hey I only call it like I see it. I'm not from TX. I don't think their look would fly here. They'd be laughed at, as wanna-be's, new money. Maybe around Dallas TX thats considered classy. Her Aunt wore stirrup pants to court! You can take the girl out of redneckville, but you can't take the redneck out of the girl
In fact one of the prosecutors called her family white trash. So no, I dont find it harsh. They might as well have had signs on their heads "WHITE TRASH ALERT
":twocents:
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I think Goody just isn't fond of labels, and we'd probably have a better world without them. When we stereotype people, we all lose.

Which is not to say I haven't privately thought "trailer trash" at least a thousand times, lol!! When the prosecution spokesperson (can't remember his name) called the Routiers trailer trash, it was because they wouldn't let him speak...they kept interrupting, yelling, accusing. The guy couldn't get a word in edgewise, and finally lost his temper. I'm sure he regretted the words the minute they slipped off his tongue. The family pulled the same thing when Darlie was found guilty. They screamed out in the courtroom that Greg Davis was a "liar" and a "murderer".

Not exactly classy behavior. A more reserved, dignified approach would have served them better, imo.
 
Mary456 said:
I think Goody just isn't fond of labels, and we'd probably have a better world without them. When we stereotype people, we all lose.

Which is not to say I haven't privately thought "trailer trash" at least a thousand times, lol!! When the prosecution spokesperson (can't remember his name) called the Routiers trailer trash, it was because they wouldn't let him speak...they kept interrupting, yelling, accusing. The guy couldn't get a word in edgewise, and finally lost his temper. I'm sure he regretted the words the minute they slipped off his tongue. The family pulled the same thing when Darlie was found guilty. They screamed out in the courtroom that Greg Davis was a "liar" and a "murderer".

Not exactly classy behavior. A more reserved, dignified approach would have served them better, imo.
Yes, I agree, name calling isn't nice, but either is murdering your children. Her family acted awful. Their inappropriate behavior created more of a circus atmosphere than the actual case. I always wonder why it took so long for the spokesperson to say that. However, that remark is one more thing her family and supporters go on about and should not have been said. What I find interesting is Darin and Darlie did not belong to a church, but suddenly her family is quoting scripture and speaking in tongues. They say there is a higher birth rate in prison than in the outside world, Born Again Christians.
 
beesy said:
Which pix do you think he messed with? I thought it was the autopsy pix based on what'd I'd heard about the penetrating wound, which is wrong. I was thinking he didn't want people to remember that wound because a stab that violent usually indicates passion, not some random murder.

Well, Miss Beesy, I think CWB definitely messed with the photos of Darlie's hands (and left wrist, which we've already discussed). There's no testimony - from either side - that supports bruises on the tops of Darlie's hands, but the photos in his book (and on Justice for Darlie) show dark purple bruises on the tops of both hands.

I also think he altered the photo on page 399 which shows a scratch on her chin. It's hard to believe that all those nurses and doctors would miss something so obvious, especially since they believed at that point that she was a victim of a knife-wielding intruder. They noted the paper cuts on her fingers, but ignored a cut on her face? Not likely.

Oh, and defense exhibit 92 (pg. 432) really backfired on Chris Brown. There we see "scratch marks from fingernails" in the photo on 6/10 but, amazingly, there's no corresponding scratch marks in defense exhibit 91 taken at the hospital. The Blustering Boobhead strikes (out) again!
 
Mary456 said:
I think Goody just isn't fond of labels, and we'd probably have a better world without them. When we stereotype people, we all lose.
:truce: No more labeling from me, promise :angel:
 
Mary456 said:
Well, Miss Beesy, I think CWB definitely messed with the photos of Darlie's hands (and left wrist, which we've already discussed). There's no testimony - from either side - that supports bruises on the tops of Darlie's hands, but the photos in his book (and on Justice for Darlie) show dark purple bruises on the tops of both hands.

I also think he altered the photo on page 399 which shows a scratch on her chin. It's hard to believe that all those nurses and doctors would miss something so obvious, especially since they believed at that point that she was a victim of a knife-wielding intruder. They noted the paper cuts on her fingers, but ignored a cut on her face? Not likely.

Oh, and defense exhibit 92 (pg. 432) really backfired on Chris Brown. There we see "scratch marks from fingernails" in the photo on 6/10 but, amazingly, there's no corresponding scratch marks in defense exhibit 91 taken at the hospital. The Blustering Boobhead strikes (out) again!
Sounds reasonable. Another thing which bothers me is he doesn't credit any of the pix. He only says that someone(who again?) let him take pix of the originals. Very easy to manipulate pix of pix, seems to me. Boobhead, now that's a good one :laugh:
 
beesy said:
Yes, I agree, name calling isn't nice, but either is murdering your children. Her family acted awful. Their inappropriate behavior created more of a circus atmosphere than the actual case. I always wonder why it took so long for the spokesperson to say that. However, that remark is one more thing her family and supporters go on about and should not have been said. What I find interesting is Darin and Darlie did not belong to a church, but suddenly her family is quoting scripture and speaking in tongues. They say there is a higher birth rate in prison than in the outside world, Born Again Christians.

Hahahaaa, I love it!!! Yes, that family certainly speaks with forked tongue, don't they. Darlie was a big supporter of the death penalty until she found herself in the hot seat, and now she's completely against it. Don't know why, because she's always claiming that she can't wait to be with her boys again.

Somehow I don't think they'd feel the same way. I picture the two of them in the welcoming committee at the pearly gates. Devon says to Damon, "Eeee gads, it's Mommy! Run for your life!"
 
Mary456 said:
Hahahaaa, I love it!!! Yes, that family certainly speaks with forked tongue, don't they. Darlie was a big supporter of the death penalty until she found herself in the hot seat, and now she's completely against it. Don't know why, because she's always claiming that she can't wait to be with her boys again.

Somehow I don't think they'd feel the same way. I picture the two of them in the welcoming committee at the pearly gates. Devon says to Damon, "Eeee gads, it's Mommy! Run for your life!"


I don't think they'll be seeing her up there.
 
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Somehow I don't think they'd feel the same way. I picture the two of them in the welcoming committee at the pearly gates. Devon says to Damon, "Eeee gads, it's Mommy! Run for your life!"
:laugh: Ok, that's really funny
 

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