The Doe Network, Part 3: Who is Princess Blue?

[BeavisMom62]

will there be a fourth thread or will this be continued over at Somoneknowsme? I haven't been there yet or registered. I'm still learning my way around WS! Thank you.

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

Hi BeavisMom62! Welcome to WS. We are continuing the discussion of Princess Blue both here at WS and at SKM. We'd be happy to have you join us at both locations!

will there be a fourth thread or will this be continued over at Somoneknowsme? I haven't been there yet or registered. I'm still learning my way around WS! Thank you.

 

[BeavisMom62]

Thanks for the welcome! I've enjoyed so much being a lurker but am looking forward to contributing something, if not here, then hopefully elsewhere. I'd had contributions on other cases, but unfortunately by the time I could post, you guys (of course) had already figured it out.

 

[LionRun]

Welcome, BeavisMom. We would love to hear your thoughts or ideas about Princess Blue. When this thread grows to have 400-500 posts or so, we will close it, leave a link at the end for the new site, and leave a link on the 1st post of the new site for this thread.

Lion

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

Hi diamondgirl. I think that somewhere in all these threads on Princess Blue Elizabeth Campbell's sister stated that she did not believe Princess Blue is her sister Elizabeth. I can't recall all of the details on why she didn't believe Princess Blue to be Elizabeth. I will see what I can come up with.

Im sure someone has already suggested this woman, but just in case (Ive read all the posts before, but I just can't do it again. LOL)

What about Elizabeth Campbell. She went missing in 1988. She should be 39 now. She is 5'2". Her age progressed photo doesn't look like princess blue but the other one kind of does. She has wide and high cheek bones. She is asian and white. Oh and shes from TX.

 

[diamondgirl]

Hi diamondgirl. I think that somewhere in all these threads on Princess Blue Elizabeth Campbell's sister stated that she did not believe Princess Blue is her sister Elizabeth. I can't recall all of the details on why she didn't believe Princess Blue to be Elizabeth. I will see what I can come up with.

I hope her sister didn't think it wasn't her due to the composite. I just thought that her being Asian and White, may have been the reason for the confusion of Princess Blue's race.

 

[richandfamous]

Thinking of you this Holiday Season.

 

[LionRun]

Here is info about Elizabeth Campbell.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id='M10/17/20013:32:53PM'

Texas Missing Persons Clearinghouse Online Bulletin

Missing Person Details

Date Picture Updated: 10/17/2001

Name: Elizabeth Ann CampbellCase Number: M8804006Case Type: InvoluntaryLast Seen in: Copperas Cove (Coryell County)Last Seen on: 4/25/1988Height: 5' 2 " Weight: 97 lbs. Age Missing: 20 Eye Color: BrownHair Color: BlackDate of Birth: 5/31/1967Race: OtherSex: FemaleState Missing From: TexasCountry Missing From: USACircumstances: Ms. Campbell has scars on her forehead, elbow, under her chin and on her right eyebrow. She has a mole on her back between her shoulder blades and a small birthmark on her right buttock. Ms. Campbell wears glasses and has pierced ears. She was last seen at the 7-11 store on Highway 190. Ms. Campbell was wearing a white T-shirt with a design on the front, blue jeans, and white tennis shoes. She also wore a diamond Romance Wittnauer watch and a 10 karat gold ring with 3 sapphire stones in the center and one diamond on each side. Ms. Campbell was carrying a yellow jacket, a 7-11 smock with her name tag, a maroon-colored purse, and college books. Her purse was later found and turned into the Crocket County Sheriff's Department in Ozona, Texas.
Additional Pictures

Date Picture Updated: 10/25/2006

Photo is shown age progresses to 39 years of age.

 

[LionRun]

Here is info about Elizabeth Ann Pfeifer. She may be another possible match.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id='M10/10/20014:27:24PM'

Texas Missing Persons Clearinghouse Online Bulletin

Missing Person Details

Date Picture Updated: 10/10/2001

Name: Elizabeth Ann PfeiferCase Number: M8611001Case Type: EndangeredLast Seen in: Katy (Harris County)Last Seen on: 4/12/1986Height: 5' 2 " Weight: 110 lbs. Age Missing: 20 Eye Color: BlueHair Color: BrownDate of Birth: 12/10/1965Race: WhiteSex: FemaleState Missing From: TexasCountry Missing From: USACircumstances: Ms. Pfeifer has a tattoo on her left shoulder of a red rose with the name "Dave" printed under it. She has shoulder length hair and was last seen wearing a white pullover blouse with lavender sleeves and blue jeans.
Additional Pictures

Date Picture Updated: 8/8/2006

 

[heidi k]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=145354299

Here is the myspace link for the one person i found on myspace who graduated robert lee highscool in 1975, she looks like a bigger woman, she could have weighed the 175, but her profile is set to private, im sure authorities can contact her to find out about more people who graduated with her...

 

[LionRun]

Heidi, welcome to the Princess Blue thread. Originally, it was believed that Princess Blue weighed about 175LB in life based on her HS ring size of 9 1/2. However, a few months ago a team of forensics specialists determined that she most likely did not weigh 175. In fact we cannot rule out anyone based on any weight.

Also, she had on a a Robert E. Lee, Houston, high school ring. The lady in the myspace graduated from Robert Lee HS(not Robert E. Lee) in Robert Lee, TX. It was confusing for us at first because we learned there were a number Robert E. Lee high schools all over the country and in Texas. Gosh, last year I emailed a slew of Robert E. Lee, San Antonio alumni by accident! I got some good info from one of the students, though.

I have very slow dial-up, and it takes about ten minutes just to load the first myspace page. And, I don't know how to research on myspace. Can you research 1975 Robert E. Lee High School, Houston, TX alumni on myspace? Some of our members have researched in the past, but you never know what might be out there at this point.

Lion

 

[heidi k]

Ok ya i will search that LOL didnt realize how many there were. so was that ring made for only that one school or was it made for all the robert e lee schools? i have dsl so mine goes a little quicker. thank god lol, i am too impatient for dial up

 

[LionRun]

Each high school contracts their choice of hs ring makers. So, yes that ring was made for only that school. Here is a pic of the actual ring found on Princess Blue. You can see that it reads, "Houston" on it. And, Princess Blue was found in Man, TX, which is in the Houston, metro area.

Thank you so much for joining us and offering to help on this case and with Benjaman.

Lion

 

[heidi k]

your welcome, i will get started on this one here in a few. thanks for updating me =o) someone has got to know she is, people dont just come and disappear w/ out no one knowing who they are or that they are missing. especially that close to home

 

[Angel4Alpha]

Question: Since the male and female rings from the time (75) were almost the same (not like today where the females are smaller) could it be possible that the ring is a males and not a females after all (since it was originally a large ring size?) Perhaps the ring could have been a males who the unidentified cared about so they wore it?

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

Hi Angel4Alpha,

We came to the conclusion quite awhile back that the ring found on Princess Blue was a female's ring. The band for a male's ring was much thicker than the female band. Also, as some stated, they were petite in weight and yet they still wore a larger ring size.

Question: Since the male and female rings from the time (75) were almost the same (not like today where the females are smaller) could it be possible that the ring is a males and not a females after all (since it was originally a large ring size?) Perhaps the ring could have been a males who the unidentified cared about so they wore it?

 

[Angel4Alpha]

Thanks RKnowley- do you know offhand if these have been checked?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/115dftx.html petite and last seen by her husband in 1978 and has a couple aliases so may have had a different name when still in high school

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/401dftx.html age right for her own ring - height right and from texas

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/93dftx.html long shot but from texas and the age is right for it to be her own ring possibly

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/475dftx.html hispanic/houston could have been her ring

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

Angel,
Wanda might be a possible for Princess Blue. The last 3 you listed would be too old to be Princess Blue. Princess Blue was between 16 and 21 (or 22?) when she died.

Thanks RKnowley- do you know offhand if these have been checked?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/115dftx.html petite and last seen by her husband in 1978 and has a couple aliases so may have had a different name when still in high school

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/401dftx.html age right for her own ring - height right and from texas

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/93dftx.html long shot but from texas and the age is right for it to be her own ring possibly

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/475dftx.html hispanic/houston could have been her ring

 

[Angel4Alpha]

Thanks - besides wanda here :

Vital Statistics Date Of Birth: January 21, 1958
Age at Time of Disappearance: 20 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4; 90 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
Marks, Scars: She has scars on the chin, above one eye, and on top of the head.
Clothing: She was last seen wearing a multi-colored halter top, blue jeans, and brown shoes.
AKA: Wanda Lee Ann Lundin, Wanda Lee Ann Miller
Dentals: Two front teeth turn in towards each other.
DNA: Available in CODIS

Question - does one check codis themselves by entry or does it computerize match automatically and show hits periodically?

This one though looks like the model drawing to me - even though shes 29 - is it possible to be a little off on age on an unidentified?
Maria Trinidad Velasquez

Date Of Birth: September 23, 1956
Age at Time of Disappearance: 29 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3"; 130 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: Hispanic female. Black hair; brown eyes.
Marks, Scars: She has burn scars on the front of both thighs.

 

[Angie4b1g]

IMO it is time for a new composite.

For years before I actually sat down and read into this case more, I thought Princess Blue was black.