The Girlfriend's Statement

[who]

I'll copy and paste it for you again. When I put the quotations marks, that's a direct quote.


This is false.

She says she called him back "3 or 2 times" the investigators says and you didn't get a response, she cuts the investigator off by saying "No, and text him."

I'll say JMO even though that's very close to what was said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/18/us...ager.html?_r=4 (on left side of page, begins about 12:08)

Please, please if you don't know what she said don't pass it off as fact, because then people run with it...
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Thanks for that info.

Could you fix that link? Not coming up.

 

[iluvmua]

This is why her social media accounts will come into play and hopefully sooner rather than later.

If it's true that she never made reference to any of this and just kept carrying on all night (tweeting) and into the morning without giving it another thought, then there is going to be a problem.

IMO!

she didn't (I've read her twitter on another website).

This is why her story is going to be ripped to pieces by the defense because it's a load of bull by Crump.

 

[Lovelymountains]

My point is, after the head set was off, whatever she heard likely was very faint.

I am not familiar with head sets for telephones. I just speak into my phone, as well as listen from my phone. So, was Trayvon speaking through his earphones and once they were off, the sound became less distinct? TIA

 

[jjenny]

IDK......if I was the defense, I would be hoping her story was true. There are phone records proving she was on the phone with TM and if she heard nothing or TM said nothing...well then it would look like GZ totally ambushed TM.

Well she clearly doesn't say she heard nothing, does she? She also has Trayvon asking the first question. I don't think her story is all that inconsistent with Zimmerman's.

 

[tehcloser]

Well she clearly doesn't say she heard nothing, does she? She also has Trayvon asking the first question. I don't think her story is all that inconsistent with Zimmerman's.

Well clearly it's early......and my post made no sense even to me which is why I deleted it, I'll try again when this pot o' coffee kicks in.

 

[saguaro]

she didn't (I've read her twitter on another website).

This is why her story is going to be ripped to pieces by the defense because it's a load of bull by Crump.

I believe there has been quite a bit of collusion in regards to this case and it scares the heck out of me.

IMO!

 

[LambChop]

She did say that, but she also said that was after the headset had already fallen off. So I don't know how she would be able to figure out which one was saying "get off."

That was his headset not her's. She could still hear if he were yelling. jmo

 

[LambChop]

Bold: I absolutely did. My immediate thought was "Are you kidding me? You felt guilty yet you didn't contact anyone even after learning that your boyrfriend was shot?"

Note: "Anyone" includes Mr. Martin's parents, the local law enforcement, an attorney, ANYONE.

It was reported the parents did call SPD and their call was unreturned. jmo

 

[waltzingmatilda]

That's a tough one, if you ask six people you would probable get 7 answers to that one.

LOL! JMO, I think 'a little bit' is a vague part of speech and used in myriad answers to questions, sometimes followed with 'but' as a qualifier.

Did you lie out in the sun too long? A little bit.

Are you feeling sick? A little bit.

Did you see that streaker? A little bit

Are you sorry for pushing your sister/brother? A little bit but she/he bit me.

I admit that I haven't had time to listen to the recording yet and I appreciate everyones insight.

Your response is so true it made me chuckle! (just a little bit, teehee)

MOO

wm

 

[LambChop]

My speculation is that she felt guilty only AFTER she was told the same story Crump sold to the media about how Trayvon had been hunted down like an animal by a "white" racist vigilante. Notice how she said that Trayvon had concluded that George was "white" when he saw George in his car...really? He concluded that a "latino-looking" guy was white even though the guy was in his car, in the dark, at a distance. Not buyin' that at all even assuming that you could conclude, visually, that George is white under ANY circumstances. Even the officers on the scene described him as latino.

I think that the girl initially didn't come forward because she and whomever she told about the phone conversation, if anyone, assumed that the circumstances of his death were in some way related to Trayvon's own conduct. I think Crump convinced her that she was way wrong about that and THAT is why she felt guilty, if she did. jmo

Maybe it's just because she has heard some of the mean things people are saying about her. There is obviously a good reason her parents tried to protect her. Guilt is a normal stage of grief. The person always feels guilty because they think they could have stopped it from happening even though there is no reason to belief she ever could. It's normal....it happens to all of us when we lose someone close. jmo

 

[LambChop]

My point is, after the head set was off, whatever she heard likely was very faint.

His headset is for him to hear......not her. The mic would still be there and she could still hear because the headset was found with the body. jmo

 

[jjenny]

His headset is for him to hear......not her. The mic would still be there and she could still hear because the headset was found with the body. jmo

She is the one who says she could only hear a "little bit."
Whatever that means.

 

[LambChop]

She is the one who says she could only hear a "little bit."
Whatever that means.

If the mic were on the headset she could still hear. The mic was still there where she could hear as long as it was attached to the phone. Once the headset detached from the phone IMO the line went dead for her so she hung up and tried to call back. She could still hear just not as clear as if he were talking into the mic directly. jmo

 

[cityslick]

Maybe it's just because she has heard some of the mean things people are saying about her. There is obviously a good reason her parents tried to protect her. Guilt is a normal stage of grief. The person always feels guilty because they think they could have stopped it from happening even though there is no reason to belief she ever could. It's normal....it happens to all of us when we lose someone close. jmo

You got to admit, if it shows that she was on social media after the fact and showed no signs of distress for a long period of time, defense is going to be all over that.

 

[claudicici]

she didn't (I've read her twitter on another website).

This is why her story is going to be ripped to pieces by the defense because it's a load of bull by Crump.

whatever I post on my facebook is not even close to whatever goes on in my head.It's just what I want people to think I'm thinking about not what I'm actually thinking about. Just saying,whatever she put on her social network sites might just be there because she was trying not to think about what w2as bothering her

 

[LambChop]

You got to admit, if it shows that she was on social media after the fact and showed no signs of distress for a long period of time, defense is going to be all over that.

Social media proves nothing. My granddaughter lost her cousin who she was very close to.. She was still texting her friends, still using the social media. Haven't you ever seen someone joking or telling funny stories about the deceased at a funeral. It breaks the tension and is in no way meant to be disrespectful to the dead. Life still goes on, does it not. Getting back to normal is part of the healing process. It's not that you aren't thinking about this person 24/7 but breaking away from the constant grief is normal. Not talking about it is avoidance and is also normal. Please don't tell me they will have to call that "grief lady" in to testify in this trial, too.

She's a child. She is reacting and trying to deal with this the best way she knows how. It may not be in a way an adult might expect her to act but basically it has nothing to do with the crime. When she told her story to her doctor while she was in the hospital it was documented early on and I would think MOM already knows that. jmo

 

[cityslick]

Social media proves nothing. My granddaughter lost her cousin who she was very close to.. She was still texting her friends, still using the social media. Haven't you ever seen someone joking or telling funny stories about the deceased at a funeral. It breaks the tension and is in no way meant to be disrespectful to the dead. Life still goes on, does it not. Getting back to normal is part of the healing process. It's not that you aren't thinking about this person 24/7 but breaking away from the constant grief is normal. Not talking about it is avoidance and is also normal. Please don't tell me they will have to call that "grief lady" in to testify in this trial, too.

She's a child. She is reacting and trying to deal with this the best way she knows how. It may not be in a way an adult might expect her to act but basically it has nothing to do with the crime. When she told her story to her doctor while she was in the hospital it was documented early on and I would think MOM already knows that. jmo

IMO, I think her story has enough questions around it that I think she's going to get torn apart in a deposition/on the stand. It doesn't help that she is the only one testifying to things that only she heard. There are no other witnesses that can collaborate the start of the fight.

 

[Karmady]

Maybe it's just because she has heard some of the mean things people are saying about her. There is obviously a good reason her parents tried to protect her. Guilt is a normal stage of grief. The person always feels guilty because they think they could have stopped it from happening even though there is no reason to belief she ever could. It's normal....it happens to all of us when we lose someone close. jmo

Huh, afaik, no one was saying anything at all about her until Crump outed her. Even after that, maybe there were some mean things said about her by some people, but making observations about her less than "overwhelmed with grief" demeanor and questioning the credibility of her story under the circumstances is not "mean" by my standards. And I would bet a LOT of money that she cares a whole lot less about it then you do.

 

[Lovelymountains]

Listening to this young girl breaks my heart. She heard the beginning of the murder of someone she cared about. This trauma will be with her for a lifetime.

I understand what she said about the sound of falling on the grass. There's sort of a distinctive, "Thud." I think she told the story as best as she understood it and I commend her courage in doing so. It must have been difficult for her.

Insofar as her calling the police, I think experience has taught AA to not rely for help from LE in many cases. In fact, IMO, this case proves the point.

 

[LambChop]

Huh, afaik, no one was saying anything at all about her until Crump outed her. Even after that, maybe there were some mean things said about her by some people, but making observations about her less than "overwhelmed with grief" demeanor and questioning the credibility of her story under the circumstances is not "mean" by my standards. And I would bet a LOT of money that she cares a whole lot less about it then you do.

I feel sorry for what she has had to deal with. I feel sorry, too, for people who feel it's necessary to tare a young child down because she has been forced to tell her story. One that is clearly very painful for her to speak about. I think defense will tread softly only because her breaking down during her testimony will only hurt GZ. That is what I believe will happen. And because she is a minor the judge may put restrictions on both SA and defense. jmo