The Jury Speaks Thread

[Mrs G Norris]

The foreman publically acknowledges he was one of 4 jurors who voted against DP in Jodi Arias penalty phase.

Three mitigating factors:

Age coupled with No Criminal History
Dysfunctional Family
TA verbally and mentally abused Jodi

VIDEO:

http://www.azfamily.com/video/?id=211014911&ref=rcvidmod&sec=528732

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What she did was horrific - is at peace with his decision - hopes this is last call to jury duty ... never wants to do it again - ever.

More to come on the SHIFTING DYNAMICS in the jury room ... said some people changed their minds and went from LIFE to the Death Penalty.

Glad he spoke, sounded perfectly reasonable to me .. I accept his decision.

 

[Quester]

Arias jury foreman voted against death penalty
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Arias-jury-foreman-voted-against-death-penalty-211014911.html

 

[wsreader]

Ugh

Foreman doesn't think Jodi Arias is a menace to society.

Thinks something happened and she's got to pay for it and she will pay for it.

WHAT????

@ 6:35 mark

Wow. Do I think she's a "menace" like would she walk down the street and kill a stranger? No. Do I believe she'd kill again if she felt someone had wronged her? DEFINITELY. It's a miracle that they caught her. IMO she'd be one of those women who was caught after she killed her 3rd husband. I respect the 4 jurors opinions but I don't understand or agree with them.

 

[prospektor]

Three mitigating factors:

Age coupled with No Criminal History
Dysfunctional Family
TA verbally and mentally abused Jodi

Two of which rely on the word of JA, and everybody knows she wouldn't lie, right? Right?
Can't really see the age as an issue here, 27 is old enough, and just because she didn't get to visit ALL the 1000 places ... she saw more than most others. I will probably end my life without ever getting to see the Sheriff Joe Channel, for example, so she's not short on experiences. Also, she's five years older now and will be even older when a potential DP would be executed.

- hopes this is last call to jury duty ... never wants to do it again - ever.

Well, I'm sure a lot of people share his hope.

 

[JSR]

I think from the foreman's most recent interview that aired today that he believes Travis caused his murder. By saying that something "happened" to cause Jodi to murder Travis. Although he said he didn't believe "he deserved to die" he, I believe, certainly believed that he caused his death.

And I'm shocked that he doesn't believe Jodi is a danger to society. I'm glad he's not the Judge. Otherwise he wouldn't hesitate to give Jodi the chance at parole. If he really believes that how about if she's given parole she dates his son??? I wonder if he would be ok with that.

And I still say that he wasn't paying attention to the evidence. Out of over 80,000 written communication between TA and Jodi only ONE exchange shows that Travis lost his temper and acted inappropriately. That to me does NOT equal verbal and mental abuse.

Still really annoyed with his comments.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

Two of which rely on the word of JA, and everybody knows she wouldn't lie, right? Right?
Can't really see the age as an issue here, 27 is old enough, and just because she didn't get to visit ALL the 1000 places ... she saw more than most others. I will probably end my life without ever getting to see the Sheriff Joe Channel, for example, so she's not short on experiences. Also, she's five years older now and will be even older when a potential DP would be executed.



Well, I'm sure a lot of people share his hope.

I agree age makes no sense as a mitigator. As if she'd appreciate the wrongness of murder...if only she were just a bit older? TA certainly didn't abuse her. He reacted when she provoked him, but that isn't abuse.

 

[JSR]

Dysfunctional Family?

Please. Where is the evidence of this?

I kind of wish that Jodi's childhood friend was made to testify during the penalty phase. She could have completely shown the contention that her family was dysfunctional was a lie. But I suspect that's why the defense decided to pull her from testifying. No way it was because of alleged "threats" that only the defense and one reporter, who is the DT's pocket, know about.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

Dysfunctional Family?

Please. Where is the evidence of this?

There wasn't any. Nothing too unusual and certainly nothing that would explain or mitigate what she did. Many people go through far worse and don't murder anyone.

 

[AngelWings444]

Nah...she's not a menace to society. She was only trying to flee in a rental car with a new gun and knives in it.

Juror #18 calls people "stupid". Really? Sounds like verbal abuse to me.

Seems to me like Juror #18 isn't done with his 15 minutes. I respect the juries decision but I do not like the way Juror #18 has manipulated the press since the beginning. First, the jurors decide not to speak until after the weekend, but Juror #18 comes out right away..throwing all his peers under the bus and not honoring their agreement. Now, he goes and gives another "exclusive" that he was one of those who voted for Life...duh! We all knew that. If he really wants to be left alone by the public, maybe he should stop flaming the fire. JMO

 

[Horace Finklestein]

Nah...she's not a menace to society. She was only trying to flee in a rental car with a new gun and knives in it.

Juror #18 calls people "stupid". Really? Sounds like verbal abuse to me.

Seems to me like Juror #18 isn't done with his 15 minutes. I respect the juries decision but I do not like the way Juror #18 has manipulated the press since the beginning. First the jurors decide not to speak after after the weekend, but Juror #18 comes out right away..throwing all his peers under the bus and not honoring their agreement. Now, he goes and gives another "exclusive" that he was one of those who voted for Life...duh! We all knew that. If he really wants to be left alone by the public, maybe he should stop flaming the fire. JMO

She definitely had another victim in mind imo

 

[JSR]

She definitely had another victim in mind imo

My guess is Mimi.

 

[JSR]

And the foreman should probably take a look at Jodi's jail record if he thinks she isn't a danger. She's attacked another inmate! And has had a number of other infractions. Jodi is as dangerous as it gets. It shocks me that a juror could look at those autopsy pictures and see what she is capable of doing to another human being and think she isn't dangerous.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

:seeya: Good Morning Y'All !


I am still wondering WHY jury foreman wants another "15 minutes" ?

We heard from foreman the DAY AFTER that awful decision was announced ... and then we heard from another juror that it was the JURY's decision to WAIT UNTIL AFTER after the Memorial Holiday to do a presser ...

So nothing from foreman when the other jurors and alternates were doing interviews, which was what, about 3 weeks ago ...

And now, foreman is trying to "validate" his reasons for NOT giving the DP, which reasons make absolutely NO sense, and it is "backfiring" big time on him !

So what is foreman's "agenda" ?

Obviously IMO, he has an "ax to grind" ... Oh yes, now I remember those nasty comments foreman made about Mr. Martinez ! Those comments made me :furious: ...

JMO but there is a reason foreman came back for another "15 minutes" after silence for the past 3 weeks ...

And I thought we were RID OF HIM :banghead:


lease:lease:lease: Justice for Travis !!!

:moo:

 

[Jetaime]

Wow. Do I think she's a "menace" like would she walk down the street and kill a stranger? No. Do I believe she'd kill again if she felt someone had wronged her? DEFINITELY. It's a miracle that they caught her. IMO she'd be one of those women who was caught after she killed her 3rd husband. I respect the 4 jurors opinions but I don't understand or agree with them.

BBM. Oh, ABSOLUTELY! She claims she was justified in slaying Travis because she was "defending herself". After killing Travis, she goes out & buys a gun for "protection". First of all, if I (and most women) felt threatened by the prospect of going into the woods with a bunch of strange men, I WOULDN'T GO. I certainly wouldn't prepare myself to murder someone. I'd stay home!
She goes to jail. Gets in a fight because she was "defending herself". After the verdicts, she does the ABC interview where she says "I am not a danger to society unless you threaten my life". This girl is prepared. Murder on her mind if she perceives a 'threat'. And to her, it's totally justifiable. Scary stuff! JMO

 

[JudyBolton]

So what is foreman's "agenda" ?

Obviously IMO, he has an "ax to grind" ... Oh yes, now I remember those nasty comments foreman made about Mr. Martinez ! Those comments made me :furious: ...

JMO but there is a reason foreman came back for another "15 minutes" after silence for the past 3 weeks ...

And I thought we were RID OF HIM :banghead:


lease:lease:lease: Justice for Travis !!!

:moo:

The more he talks.... the more he "fits" the personality type I suspected...he talked the other jurors into waiting until Memorial Day - then rushes out to be the first one on Good Morning America.... he has his own radio show, he was a real estate salesman (Emphasis on Salesman) - he and his sons are into "Muscle Cars"....

He thinks he is smarter than everyone - and he convinced 3 people to vote with him...now he's trying to convince the rest of America that he did the right thing..... Good Luck with that Mr. Obvious :maddening:

 

[elementary]

Says you don't put people to death for being stupid or lying.

Again. I. Say. WHAT?????

How about premeditating the savage murder of another human being with an aggravator of cruelty?

Oh, that was just incidental, don't ya know.

 

[elementary]

The foreman publically acknowledges he was one of 4 jurors who voted against DP in Jodi Arias penalty phase.

Three mitigating factors:

Age coupled with No Criminal History
Dysfunctional Family
TA verbally and mentally abused Jodi

VIDEO:

http://www.azfamily.com/video/?id=211014911&ref=rcvidmod&sec=528732

More comments

What she did was horrific - is at peace with his decision - hopes this is last call to jury duty ... never wants to do it again - ever.

More to come on the SHIFTING DYNAMICS in the jury room ... said some people changed their minds and went from LIFE to the Death Penalty.

This is very telling. If he actually has now heard all the other facts, all the other things about the convict and her behaviour, and has dismissed them, he definitely had/has an agenda.

I guess it's easier to shift responsibility and be at peace in giving life, than living with giving death.

Interesting, too, that he couldn't stay out of the limelight, nor has he appeared with other jurors.

 

[AngelWings444]

Jury #18 states in the latest interview, aired a few minutes ago on HLN, there were no threats to him, other than him being called a "dirty old man".

 

[elementary]

She definitely had another victim in mind imo

She must have really enjoyed the butchering. Why not just a gun? Why not just a knife?

 

[Myvice]

Interesting that he talked about threats and stated that he didn't fear for himself or family. He said they were more in line with calling him a dirty old man. Now I understand why he thought Travis abused Jodi by calling her names when she was making threats to him.

I wonder if the threats to Wilmott were in line with Juan telling her if they were married he would want her to leave? God only knows what the threats to the druggie witness could have been...

I swear, I may live to see the day that someone actually does subpoena God and sue him because the sun isn't shining for them.