The Note Page

[facsinatingstuff]

This number was really bugging me. When searching the number it would come up with Joe's Barber shop but when searching Joe's Barber Shop I would come up with the number 818-365-7300 which makes sense for this area. I drove by a couple times (its only a couple miles from my work) but it was always closed.

When I call the 356# I get this strange message every time "Thanks for calling, the party you called is unavailable, they'll be notified you called" and its not possible to leave a message.

However, when I called the 365 number I was able to reach Joe the Barber who confirmed for me that his number is 365-7300 not 356-7300. So I think we can scratch off the list somewhere that this number belongs to the Joe the Barber.

On a side note on the 356-7300 Number, if a party was notified that I called them, they have never tried to call back.

I think more research should be done on this number, perhaps it did or still does belong to "Laciner" whoever or whatever that means.

 

[trixandhoney]

I emailed Maureen O'Hagan who graciously replied answering a couple of my questions.

I asked about Kathleen Jeung and I posted her answer in the Jeung thread.

I also asked two other questions:

2. Were there other things found in the lock box? If so, why were only certain things included in the story?

3. If there were hundreds of random scribblings discovered all over Lori Ruff's house after she died, were they a different style than the note page in the lock box? How likely (in your opinion) is it that the note page is also just random scribblings from an unstable person, rather than "clues" that could lead to her past?

Her reply:

"I can’t include everything in my story, so yes, there were many things that I had to leave out. I made those choices the same way I do with every other story I write: relevance, interest, and space."

So now we have confirmation that there was more (much more?), as most of us expected. Perhaps not the most useful information, but I thought I'd share nevertheless.

I wish she had responded to my third question but I imagine she doesn't want to speculate.

 

[ClaireNC]

Owutatangledweb, made this post in the "telephone companies" thread. I think it is worth repeating here.

Not sure if this thread is just for telephone companies or telephone numbers as well. But, there is a number that appears as 356-7300 that everyone appears to have assumed goes back to Joe's Barber shop in California; I think this is assumed because 818 appears somewhat above the number. I have been researching that number without the area code of 818. Assuming she was in Texas and may not need to write down the area code, that number comes back to a Texas attorney if you use area code 281. He is about 88 years old now, I believe, and practiced criminal and civil law.

http://www.whitepages.com/business/richard-o-werlein-magnolia-tx

Also got this one for the same area code of 281: http://www.switchboard.com/business/fidelity-properties-companies-magnolia-tx

And another thought:

A middle school. Looking for records?

http://www.schoolmatch.com/search/school.cfm?school_lea=01588&lea=2103090

 

[branwynbreeze]

I emailed Maureen O'Hagan who graciously replied answering a couple of my questions.

I asked about Kathleen Jeung and I posted her answer in the Jeung thread.

I also asked two other questions:

2. Were there other things found in the lock box? If so, why were only certain things included in the story?

3. If there were hundreds of random scribblings discovered all over Lori Ruff's house after she died, were they a different style than the note page in the lock box? How likely (in your opinion) is it that the note page is also just random scribblings from an unstable person, rather than "clues" that could lead to her past?

Her reply:

"I can’t include everything in my story, so yes, there were many things that I had to leave out. I made those choices the same way I do with every other story I write: relevance, interest, and space."

So now we have confirmation that there was more (much more?), as most of us expected. Perhaps not the most useful information, but I thought I'd share nevertheless.

I wish she had responded to my third question but I imagine she doesn't want to speculate.

I wonder if she'd be interested in sharing some/all of what she knows. The more info that gets out, the quicker there may be a solution.

 

[Occam's Razor]

I emailed Maureen O'Hagan who graciously replied answering a couple of my questions.

I asked about Kathleen Jeung and I posted her answer in the Jeung thread.

I also asked two other questions:

2. Were there other things found in the lock box? If so, why were only certain things included in the story?

3. If there were hundreds of random scribblings discovered all over Lori Ruff's house after she died, were they a different style than the note page in the lock box? How likely (in your opinion) is it that the note page is also just random scribblings from an unstable person, rather than "clues" that could lead to her past?

Her reply:

"I can’t include everything in my story, so yes, there were many things that I had to leave out. I made those choices the same way I do with every other story I write: relevance, interest, and space."

So now we have confirmation that there was more (much more?), as most of us expected. Perhaps not the most useful information, but I thought I'd share nevertheless.

I wish she had responded to my third question but I imagine she doesn't want to speculate.

I read that reply to say that she didn't leave anything out for reasons other than basic editing. Fair enough.

What was in the ****** box?

 

[fred&edna]

Owutatangledweb, made this post in the "telephone companies" thread. I think it is worth repeating here.

Not sure if this thread is just for telephone companies or telephone numbers as well. But, there is a number that appears as 356-7300 that everyone appears to have assumed goes back to Joe's Barber shop in California; I think this is assumed because 818 appears somewhat above the number. I have been researching that number without the area code of 818. Assuming she was in Texas and may not need to write down the area code, that number comes back to a Texas attorney if you use area code 281. He is about 88 years old now, I believe, and practiced criminal and civil law.

http://www.whitepages.com/business/richard-o-werlein-magnolia-tx

Also got this one for the same area code of 281: http://www.switchboard.com/business/fidelity-properties-companies-magnolia-tx

Interesting info. I'm glad you brought it over.


Didn't someone share her bankruptcy filing info on WS? I can't seem to find it... just curious if it included her attorney's name.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

I brought over the rest of my post from another thread since it contained other possibilities. It follows. Thank you Clair for moving it to the correct thread. I also think the Idaho connection is interesting due to the address and its proximity to Boise. I have not researched who had any of these phone numbers in the 80s. Those of you who have access to those directories and find any of these interesting may want to check that. There are, of course other possibilities in other States that I have not posted here; including one in MA. that is only 40 minutes from the A.Laciner city.


Not sure if this thread is just for telephone companies or telephone numbers as well. But, there is a number that appears as 356-7300 that everyone appears to have assumed goes back to Joe's Barber shop in California; I think this is assumed because 818 appears somewhat above the number. I have been researching that number without the area code of 818. Assuming she was in Texas and may not need to write down the area code, that number comes back to a Texas attorney if you use area code 281. He is about 88 years old now, I believe, and practiced criminal and civil law.

http://www.whitepages.com/business/r...in-magnolia-tx

Also got this one for the same area code of 281: http://www.switchboard.com/business/...es-magnolia-tx

area code 806 in Texas: http://local.gosanangelo.com/lawyers...948p.home.html

If you assume an Idaho area code, I also found this: area code 208, a real estate company in RExburg, Idaho. THis address is on "Stocks" Avenue.

In california 408: http://www.whitepages.com/business/s...l-los-gatos-ca or another area code: http://www.switchboard.com/business/...los-angeles-ca (can this be kind of a financial advisor / stockbrocker connection?)

In NEvada: http://eagle-electricinc.com/5352.html (Possible Lebaron connection? Appliance repair)

How about a Canadian lawyer? http://www.law-firms-canada.com/bruce-filan_l2230.html

For any of these, we may assume she could have been in that particular State and didn't write down the area code.
Last edited by Owutatangledweb; 07-19-2013 at 08:49 PM.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

In 1983, a Jacksonville, Florida law firm.

http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/flsupct/63950/63950Ans.pdf

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Area code 915 356-7300. Telephone number in texas. Again, the fact that this number on the notes page doesn't have an area code written directly in front of it.

http://checkwhocalled.com/phone-number/1-915-356-7300

Not sure what this means.? Re the phone company

http://calltruth.com/915/trace-results.php?phone=915-356-7300

 

[Owutatangledweb]

For those thinking there is a New Jersey connection with a. Laciner:

http://411.info/business/New-Jersey/Bound-Brook/Schild-Paul-Dr-Optometrist/15631341.html

http://yellowpages.kstp.com/mx+solar+usa.9.116063850p.home.html

http://www.local.com/business/details/somerset-nj/mx-solar-usa-116063850/

 

[Owutatangledweb]

I know this is Maryland, but found it interesting nonetheless due to her lack of education, desire to find a job, and the MA. connection. Don't know how long books such as this have been around.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ux...a=X&ei=c-TrUbr4IsegyAG4nIAo&ved=0CD0Q6AEwCDgK

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Another texas attorney?

http://411.info/business/Texas/Magnolia/HEARD-CHARLES/17341582.html


http://www.whitepages.com/business/richard-o-werlein-magnolia-tx

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Thinking about the connection of the 356-7300 phone number to a Kentucky board of education or middle school. I think her look and face structure is similar but don't have height, weight, etc. teeth may be different also. But appearance in Idaho was two years later.

http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

 

[ClaireNC]

Good thought process, but Shannon Rena Green is not a match. Hair color is wrong and she is too short. Investigators believe that she is most likely a murder victim.

 

[facsinatingstuff]

Thanks facsinatingstuff.
Would you also please re-post some of your other comments on the a, b, c, d...list into the Notes page thread http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=215620&page=4
Things like the the Holloway address vs. writing Hollywood. The Library Towers vs. a photo library. You mentioned something about a phone number exchange that was local to LA. That post had some great info that was not reported before! The fact that KJ and the owner of the photography agency that ties to the "These Eyes" might have known each other, since they are friends on Facebook.

Per your request I will try to duplicate but I no longer have what I originally typed up so it will be slightly different.

A. I believe that she was almost definitely in Los Angeles when she wrote the notes page because when she wrote Ben Perkins number she did not list the area code which means she was in that area and didn't need the area code.

B. With that in mind, the number for "These Eyes" is for Visages which was locationed in W. Hollywood. The owner and Founder of Visages registered a holding company in New York in 1988 using an address on Holloway Drive in West Hollywood. Perhaps if JD knew her and had been to her house, it would explain why she was about to spell Hollywood as Holloy...

c. The 688 # at the top is a prefix number for the Los Angeles area. With that in mind there are a couple theories I have that could relate to the word Library. 1. There was The largest Highrise being built in LosAngeles at the time; construction started in 1987 and it was finished in 1989 This building at the time was referred to as the "Library Tower" I believe it is now known as the First Interstate Building. 2. Also the owner of Visages had just started an online Library of photos called Photo Stock Library. http://www.stockphoto.net/libraries/LibraryList.php?Agency=V

d. Also, yes there are ties that link the owner of visages and KJ which I think are more that just a coincidence.

I'd also like to point out that the owner of Visages and KJ dealt with very high profile celebrities which IMO makes this case all the more intriguing, I hope I didn't miss anything important here.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Thanks facsinatingstuff.
Would you also please re-post some of your other comments on the a, b, c, d...list into the Notes page thread http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=215620&page=4
Things like the the Holloway address vs. writing Hollywood. The Library Towers vs. a photo library. You mentioned something about a phone number exchange that was local to LA. That post had some great info that was not reported before! The fact that KJ and the owner of the photography agency that ties to the "These Eyes" might have known each other, since they are friends on Facebook.

Per your request I will try to duplicate but I no longer have what I originally typed up so it will be slightly different.

A. I believe that she was almost definitely in Los Angeles when she wrote the notes page because when she wrote Ben Perkins number she did not list the area code which means she was in that area and didn't need the area code.

B. With that in mind, the number for "These Eyes" is for Visages which was locationed in W. Hollywood. The owner and Founder of Visages registered a holding company in New York in 1988 using an address on Holloway Drive in West Hollywood. Perhaps if JD knew her and had been to her house, it would explain why she was about to spell Hollywood as Holloy...

c. The 688 # at the top is a prefix number for the Los Angeles area. With that in mind there are a couple theories I have that could relate to the word Library. 1. There was The largest Highrise being built in LosAngeles at the time; construction started in 1987 and it was finished in 1989 This building at the time was referred to as the "Library Tower" I believe it is now known as the First Interstate Building. 2. Also the owner of Visages had just started an online Library of photos called Photo Stock Library. http://www.stockphoto.net/libraries/LibraryList.php?Agency=V

d. Also, yes there are ties that link the owner of visages and KJ which I think are more that just a coincidence.

I'd also like to point out that the owner of Visages and KJ dealt with very high profile celebrities which IMO makes this case all the more intriguing, I hope I didn't miss anything important here.

Can someone tell me where this original post is?

 

[ClaireNC]

Thanks facsinatingstuff!

Can someone tell me where this original post is?

It was deleted, along with some other posts that contained material that was against TOS. I happened to see if before it got deleted, so I asked facsinatingstuff to repost without certain details.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Okay, I'm back to the 356-7300 number. Thinking about it, no one has focused very much on Nevada, Boulder city in particular, so I tried area code 702-356-7300, and got the following. However, if anyone has access to a criss-cross directory for that area, we may be able to get somewhere. I do note there is an Airforce base there. She apparently did have an interest in some sort of flying.

http://vegasdirectory.us/7023567300

https://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=33&searchform=phone&qp=7023567300

 

[8truthseeker8]

Just my rambling thoughts......

This morning I printed out the note page and just cleared my mind and looked at it. Didn't think real hard..... just kept an open mind. Because of the way she wrote (scribbles, codes, cross-outs, circles, etc) I pictured a person that was on the phone, making calls, making notes. VERY heightened, very paranoid, chaotic.

Perhaps she was afraid that she had been found out. Perhaps she feared that her husband or in-laws were on to her. She called phone companies requesting herself (to see if she could be traced). Maybe she had received hang-ups, maybe she was checking her own phone records (to see what calls were made from her husband)

Times, names, a # for the police, etc. Scattered notes (circled, underlined, crossed out......) that we may never understand. I make random notes all of the time.... they make sense to me because I wrote them.

Add in anxiety and/or a mental issue and it could mean anything.

Even though this note seems to be a clue (I mean, she left it in the lockbox so it must have been important, right?), it meant something to her but she is the key to the lock (the letter) and unfortunately, she (the translator) is gone.

The items that she bolded and circled and underlined...... those are the ones that matter...... Picture her on the phone, listening to someone, (subconsciously) writing/retracing over and over the words that had meaning ("today" "N" "Nov""402 months" (think about it, haven't you been on the phone, making notes, listening to someone talk and retracing some words over and over?)

The words she crossed out? dead-ends, no meaning (in her mind). The bolded ones......important. The circles (to keep in mind).

To me, if she kept this note, this was a crescendo of sorts. The very peak of anxiety. A telephone # for the police dept, telephone # to lawyers, times (Today/Nov, 3:00, 402 months) She is searching, grasping for help.

I believe that this note was all written in a day. This day she researched. This day she found out something.

 

[mandiedq]

Perhaps she was afraid that she had been found out. Perhaps she feared that her husband or in-laws were on to her.

Based on the timeline of this (in one of my previous posts), she wasn't married, yet when this note was written, or if she was, it was as a newlywed. We are basing this on presuming some of the numbers are area codes and when they were written.

Of course, I/we could be wrong, but I don't think I/we are.

Your other thoughts in the post above, however, are food for thought.