The Ramseys are Cleared

[Juliet10]

Well I'm glad with the new DNA evidence most people will not look at John Ramsey with suspiscion anymore. The killer was obviously some nut with a mental problem who watched alot of kidnapping-ransom flicks that he obsessed over. He probably had some run in with John over something really petty and John probably can't even remember it. The nutcase felt slighted in some manner and became obsessed with him. It could be something really small that nobody would think twice about, but it mattered alot to a mentally ill stalker. The guy that shot president reagan and john lennon were other obessed mentally ill guys with bizarre ideas that make no sense and I think the killer of JonBenet was also one of these types of people. The true motive may not be sexual abuse of the girl or kidnapping, but rather revenge on John. Either that or he is a thrill killer in the BTK league of killers or serial killers. He likes to wait around in the house and that's all part of the excitement for these nutcakes. The crazy note and the thrill of getting caught is also all part of the excitement. BTK loved writing crazy notes that eventually got him caught. Killing is probably something that sexually excites him more than actual sexual assault. BTK never raped or sexually molested any women, he just masterbated over their dead body after he got done torturing or killing them. Being in the house and killing the girl right in the house may have been what he decided to do because it's what he felt like doing in the moment. A nutjob probably has his head racing full of crazy ideas that are constantly evolving.

 

[LinasK]

Oh yeah there's that and John's shirt fibers in her panties too.:waitasec:

Excellent point not to be overlooked!:clap::clap::clap:

 

[Vegas Bride]

A bit off topic, but does anybody know what John Mark Carr has been up to lately? Wasn't he living with his father and had gotten a young girlfriend some time ago?

VB

 

[LinasK]

He cared for her by wrapping her in a blanket and re-dressing her. This could point to someone that was infatuated with her.

No, this hugely suggests a family member- John/Patsy to me that would re-dress her out of love or appearances.

 

[philamena]

Linask,
Sing it sista.

 

[JMO8778]

Mmmm would those involved with the dna info care to explain JOHN RAMSEY'S FIBERS FROM HIS SHIRT FOUND IN JONBENET'S CROTCH AREA?? didn't think so....

 

[LinasK]

The kind things John Ramsey had to say about John Karr (who Ramsey KNEW had fantasized about molesting and killing JonBenet) tells everything about J Ramsey.

But notice John never bothered to meet or call JMK because he knew for a fact JMK was not involved?????

 

[JMO8778]

Again I ask: Why wasn't Patsy running around turning the house upside down, looking for JonBenet?

What mother wouldn't be.....ransom note or not?

What mother could just sit there in a chair for hours while her daughter is missing.......and not even in the same room where the phone where the alleged kidnappers would be calling on?


Patsy was soooooo busy separating herself from the crime that she actually put herself right in the middle of it by her actions.

exactly.SHE WOULD NOT BE SITTING DOWN.THERE IS FAR TOO MUCH ADRENALINE GOING WHEN SOMEONE IS MISSING!!
NObody sits down...UNLESS THEY KNOW WHERE THEIR MISSING CHILD IS (AND IT'S TOO LATE TO HELP THEM!!)

 

[LinasK]

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Personally....I think the things they ALLOWED JonBenet to wear in pagents and her participation in them may have attracted a pervert into their home who killed her. Now that must have been hard to live with.

That pervert'd be John. I agree that Patsy dressed her up trashy like a grown woman.

 

[LinasK]

Hi evelyn

How does leaving your daughters body in the basement throw off the cops?

It does when you throw off the detectives like Linda Arndt by conducting the "search" yourself, then contaminating the evidence by carrying her body(John) and throwing yourself on top of it (Patsy).

 

[JMO8778]

Now think about what Marc Klaas would do if someone talked like Karr did about his daughter.
There aren't enough strong men in the world that could hold him back from getting at the creep.

John Ramsey acts like it's no big deal...just another day in RamseyLand

yes,and IMO he's keeping a low profile bc of the lies involved in this case.don't talk too much or the known evidence against themselves will come out...

 

[JMO8778]

Well, if the Ramseys were pedophile murderers, they apparently stopped.

..they only had one young daughter...

 

[LinasK]

It was a lot more than that. Karr was proven to have not even been in the state of Colorado anywhere near the date of the murder.

Bingo!:clap::clap::clap:

 

[JMO8778]

I think the jewelry on JBR was also probably staged. I would love to know what jewelry if any she had at the White's party.

I suspect her hairstyle was probably different as well.If the pics from the White's are so non-incriminating,then why hasn't Lacy or John Ramsey pushed to have them released to the public???what are they hiding?? it must be something pretty obvious!! Thomas already said Jb was wearing the white shirt at the party,so why not release them???
better yet,why did John refuse to let JB be exhumed to examine the marks???

 

[LinasK]

A sexual sadist committed this crime. There's no shortage of them running lose in society.

Yeah, and that sadists's name is John Bennett Ramsey.

 

[Juliet10]

It is my understanding that the DNA in the underwear was mixed with Jonbenet's blood and this DNA was from saliva? At least that is what I recall. The DNA on the elastic waist band from the long johns was skin cells. Skin cells you can't see a stain that is why they do this touch DNA scraping technique, correct? Saliva and semen you can see some sort of stain that is how they know where is the best place to swab an item if they see something that looks suspicious. I definately no expert but maybe someone who understands this stuff can enlighten us.I don't know for sure but doesn't that mean if the underwear is a saliva stain and the waistband skin cells doesn't that elimate the chance that this is a innocent transfer? If it was a transfer wouldn't the waistband also have blood on it since that DNA they found in the panties was mixed with blood?

 

[JMO8778]

AMEN, Sister!! Say it again and say it loudly! Her 15 minutes of fame, twice now.. First with a pedophile crazy, now with DNA evidence which most likely would not hold up in court because it has not been used in a criminal case. That's what was said about the " Touch DNA testing" on Nancy Grace tonight. Has NEVER been used in a criminal case to prove guilt.

I hope Boulder gets a competent DA next time around. If they do, it will be the first competent person in the office since JBR was murdered. THEN, we might begin to see the sealed evidence which points directly back to the parents, like Tricia's post on this thread about the personal favorite items of JBR's being found with her body. I had always suspected this was true, but the SW list had many redacted items on it..

The living Ramseys aren't off any hook, IMO. And the dead one has to face God's own justice for all eternity.
JMO.

Maria

absolutely.
and for anyone who doesn't believe in God or at least,intelligent design...I was just watching 'Unsolving the Mystery of Life'.(you can purchase it online,or rent it at online sites,in dvd form).awesome,awesome video.just beautifully done.it really makes you think.I really recommend everyone see it.

 

[LinasK]

S
What kind of intruder? How many kinds are there? I could break & enter my neighbors homes tonite if I decided to or drive 200 miles to do that same crime. There is nothing to stop me or anyone from murdering anyone they please.

The manson family did it. They broke into people's homes just to snoop around. regularly.

Who knew?

O wait, in that case they thought the hubby was guilty of wrongdoing too.

Manson's motives were to solely murder- not molest, not kidnap, not ransom, not stage a murder scene to look like a fake intruder.

 

[LinasK]

Patsy was soooooo busy separating herself from the crime that she actually put herself right in the middle of it by her actions.

Literally, by throwing herself on top of JonBenet's body.

 

[LinasK]

The killer should suffer for all eternity. :furious:

Yup, I said it when Patsy died. A criminal who dies of Cancer is still a criminal. Hope Patsy's resting in Hell and nowhere near poor JB.:furious::furious::furious: